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Panasonic G9 II vs OM System OM-1: Which is the GREATEST Micro 4/3 camera?! What do micro 4/3 users here in UHH think?
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Nov 6, 2023 08:54:01   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
MrBob wrote:
Just go out and wear whatever you have to the big dance.... It is obvious to Almost everyone that that the smaller sensor rigs are getting to the point of being " GOOD ENOUGH " for the avg. shooter... The Hubble does things 6" backyard optics cannot do as well... Pick your tool for the job. My hands are shakey, thus my Olympus with it's fantastic IBIS does the walk around job for me. I also like Canon FF and crop for tripod work where there is no shake. A hodgepodge of other stuff like Sony and Foveon make photography more interesting. Quit looking for the BEST and exploit what you have... ANYONE can buy the latest, greatest,and most expensive, but how many can master it ?
Just go out and wear whatever you have to the big ... (show quote)


This is always a good perspective! Good tools make things easier to do, but do not necessarily translate into better photographs. (By "better photographs," I seldom mean anything other than, "images that communicate with great effect.")

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Nov 6, 2023 10:07:18   #
petrochemist Loc: UK
 
I pretty much only shoot stills, yet I use Panasonic MFT bodies. I have friends with olympus models & have been somewhat jealous of their live composite features (great for long exposures). Overall however I prefer the menus of Panasonics.

In my experience there is no such thing as a general 'greatest camera'. Each model has it's strengths & weaknesses

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Nov 6, 2023 10:19:56   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
petrochemist wrote:
I pretty much only shoot stills, yet I use Panasonic MFT bodies. I have friends with olympus models & have been somewhat jealous of their live composite features (great for long exposures). Overall however I prefer the menus of Panasonics.

In my experience there is no such thing as a general 'greatest camera'. Each model has it's strengths & weaknesses


G9 II HAS live composite mode.

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Nov 6, 2023 11:36:42   #
petrochemist Loc: UK
 
burkphoto wrote:
G9 II HAS live composite mode.


Hopefully at some point I'll be able to stretch to it, but my point remains that each camera has it's set of advantages & disadvantages. What turns out to be an advantage for some uses becomes a disadvantage for others.

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Nov 6, 2023 13:04:50   #
hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
I found the video to be a fair and unbiased assessment. I shoot mostly stills (99%) so the absence of more advanced videos features in the OM-1 was not a problem. I just need short clips of the grandkids, not 8K 60p.

Before making this switch, I also looked at the G9. I liked the camera very much, but had some concerns of the AF system.

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Nov 6, 2023 13:41:24   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
hpucker99 wrote:
I found the video to be a fair and unbiased assessment. I shoot mostly stills (99%) so the absence of more advanced videos features in the OM-1 was not a problem. I just need short clips of the grandkids, not 8K 60p.

Before making this switch, I also looked at the G9. I liked the camera very much, but had some concerns of the AF system.


ALL Lumix users have had issues with previous autofocus systems. The S5 Mark II, S5 Mark IIX (both full frame cameras), and the G9 Mark II (which is Micro 4/3 and uses the same body as the S5 II, but without the fan) are the first Panasonic Lumix cameras to use Hybrid Phase Detect Autofocus, which combines Contrast Detect and Phase Detect systems for the best of both technologies.

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Nov 7, 2023 10:02:53   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
PetaPixel's Chris and Jordan:

Panasonic G9 II vs OM System OM-1: Which is the GREATEST Micro 4/3 camera?!

What do micro 4/3 users here in UHH think?


Cheers


There is no greatest camera. The better camera will depend on the features that you find useful or are needed. I do a lot of macro and closeup work. Some of the the features of features that I like about my Olympus system is the simplicity the wired shutter release. I use this frequently. Some of the computational modes on the Olympus are use to me. Video photographers may find Panasonic or another camera more useful. Choose the camera for what you do.

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Nov 7, 2023 10:30:02   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
fetzler wrote:
There is no greatest camera. The better camera will depend on the features that you find useful or are needed. I do a lot of macro and closeup work. Some of the the features of features that I like about my Olympus system is the simplicity the wired shutter release. I use this frequently. Some of the computational modes on the Olympus are use to me. Video photographers may find Panasonic or another camera more useful. Choose the camera for what you do.


The Lumix G9 II also has a wired connection (2.5mm jack) for a remote, and can be controlled via a smartphone app as well.

Also of interest for macro users is the 100 MP high resolution mode, which can be used on a tripod or copy stand, OR hand-held.

Panasonic's Sean Robinson did a YouTube presentation on features of the new G9 II where he explained automatic focus bracketing, another useful feature for macro fans who like to do stacking. https://www.youtube.com/live/Bhny3ew7Ql8?si=cQcfjj5slGEEbvNL

Lumix users who are unfamiliar with Sean's work should check out Lumix Live. It's a weekly live Q&A chat on Thursdays at 2:00 PM EST. They have 500+ videos posted so far...

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Nov 7, 2023 13:18:30   #
petrochemist Loc: UK
 
burkphoto wrote:
The Lumix G9 II also has a wired connection (2.5mm jack) for a remote, and can be controlled via a smartphone app as well.


I think that's the same design as the remainder of the G series (I know it from my ancient G1 & G5) which use different resistances between two rings of a 4 pole jack, rather than simple shorting of sections of a 2.5mm stereo jack (as the latest olympus models do, as well as Pentax, Hasselblad, & many Canon models).
The Panasonic version is much more work to interface to other equipment.

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Nov 7, 2023 13:26:46   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
petrochemist wrote:
I think that's the same design as the remainder of the G series (I know it from my ancient G1 & G5) which use different resistances between two rings of a 4 pole jack, rather than simple shorting of sections of a 2.5mm stereo jack (as the latest olympus models do, as well as Pentax, Hasselblad, & many Canon models).
The Panasonic version is much more work to interface to other equipment.


Most of us do not need to interface to other equipment with that connection... We just want to use the remote as an electronic "cable release" to avoid camera shake. I have one I don't use. I simply use a two second delay, set from the camera menu.

I have used the WiFi app on my iPhone, but found that process almost silly when doing simple copy work (99% of my macro work is done on a copy stand).

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Nov 7, 2023 13:47:33   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
The Lumix G9 II also has a wired connection (2.5mm jack) for a remote, and can be controlled via a smartphone app as well.

Also of interest for macro users is the 100 MP high resolution mode, which can be used on a tripod or copy stand, OR hand-held.

Panasonic's Sean Robinson did a YouTube presentation on features of the new G9 II where he explained automatic focus bracketing, another useful feature for macro fans who like to do stacking. https://www.youtube.com/live/Bhny3ew7Ql8?si=cQcfjj5slGEEbvNL

Lumix users who are unfamiliar with Sean's work should check out Lumix Live. It's a weekly live Q&A chat on Thursdays at 2:00 PM EST. They have 500+ videos posted so far...
The Lumix G9 II also has a wired connection (2.5mm... (show quote)


I posted the following concerning wiring diagrams of various shutter releases. Here it is again https://www.doc-diy.net/photo/remote_pinout/#olympus.

The shutter release on Olympus is a simple switch. My Em1 Mkiii has a Cannon style cable cables are easy to make from junk box parts or audio cables. My Pen F has a mini USB like connector more difficult but adapter cables can be found to use the Cannon style cable. All circuitry is in the camera. This is as it should be. Olympus has an app too but this is rarely useful to me. Olympus has a high res mode too. Even my Pen F has it. I have used it a few times but it makes macros with flash and stacking more difficult. It is useful for art works, however.

Note that I don't say that Olympus or Panasonic cameras are bad but rather choose the camera to fit the job. Any modern camera (and lots of old ones too) will take a fine picture of Aunt Tillie sitting on the porch. There is no best camera.

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Nov 7, 2023 13:55:36   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Most of us do not need to interface to other equipment with that connection... We just want to use the remote as an electronic "cable release" to avoid camera shake. I have one I don't use. I simply use a two second delay, set from the camera menu.

I have used the WiFi app on my iPhone, but found that process almost silly when doing simple copy work (99% of my macro work is done on a copy stand).


Because you don't use it is why you don't care but those who do will care. The simple shutter release also makes building Arduino or Rasberry PI based remote triggers rather easy as it in only necessary to close a relay.

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Nov 7, 2023 19:29:03   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
fetzler wrote:
Because you don't use it is why you don't care but those who do will care. The simple shutter release also makes building Arduino or Rasberry PI based remote triggers rather easy as it in only necessary to close a relay.


Oh, I'm sure it makes a lot of difference to those who tinker or have special niche science lab applications where a camera is connected to another gizmo.

The reason I don't use the remote release is that the cable gets in the way. I don't want any wires dangling off the camera when I'm copying slides, negatives, prints, coins, or artwork. If it were wireless (but not WiFi to an app on the phone), I'd probably use it.

That said, it makes no difference to me whether the remote connector is compatible with some other brand.

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