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Nov 5, 2023 12:46:18   #
gwilliams6
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
I am almost in your camp. That 150-500 is pretty big and expensive. It could be grounds for a divorce or maybe justifiable homicide in our house if the Mrs. were to walk in and see that! I don’t think any jury would convict! So I have a 100-400. On safari I carried two bodies. One with the 12-100 and 100-400 so I had 24-800 covered! A perfect system for my purposes.



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Nov 5, 2023 12:47:17   #
gwilliams6
 
wdross wrote:
I think the 4/3rds cameras of the future are going to be the best. And it does not really matter which one is better. I will just buy the 4/3rds body that I want to use with my 4/3rds lens - no matter what the brand. One is not necessarily locked into a brand with 4/3rds. Yes, not all special functions will cross between brands. But all basic functions do operate between all brands. No special adapters needed.

What I think is more interesting are the new lenses coming out for full frame cameras. The full frame market is trying to emulate the smaller, lighter, and less costly lenses of the 4/3rds market. The full frame market can and are getting closer to 4/3rds lenses but will not be able to match them until they change their sensor size to 4/3rds. Still makes for an interesting situation.
I think the 4/3rds cameras of the future are going... (show quote)



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Nov 5, 2023 14:54:19   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
PetaPixel's Chris and Jordan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggKjNrMvXb0

Panasonic G9 II vs OM System OM-1: Which is the GREATEST Micro 4/3 camera?!

What do micro 4/3 users here in UHH think?


Cheers and best to you all.


After watching the video I’d still go with my OM-1. I had a G9 and I liked it a lot but the autofocus was really slow. I’m glad they fixed it but I know I’d be accidentally moving that rear control, plus most of the things that are important to me the OM-1 has the edge. Panasonic would have to beat Olympus by a lot for me to switch. I’m also pretty invested in Olympus Pro lenses and besides the IBIS/OIS sync some of the computational photography features only work with those lenses.

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Nov 5, 2023 14:55:30   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
billnikon wrote:
My wife had the OM-1 and shot it for a year with me in Florida's wetlands. I would say the only advantage that camera had over my Sony was the fact that it could shoot "pre-capture". Nikon z9 and z8 both can shoot "pre-capture", I am hoping soon that Sony will offer this on their new camera's coming out this year.
I found the camera too small for my hands, and the levers and buttons were not in the right places for me.
And personally, I prefer full frame camera's for that extra wide feeling and the fact that I have a larger image to work with in RAW especially when working in post.
These are personal preferences, my wife now shoots Sony. Again, hoping Sony catches up and offers "pre-capture" on their new camera's.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.
My wife had the OM-1 and shot it for a year with m... (show quote)


Now if Nikon would just update the firmware to give us pre capture with raw.

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Nov 5, 2023 16:14:12   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
PetaPixel's Chris and Jordan:

Panasonic G9 II vs OM System OM-1: Which is the GREATEST Micro 4/3 camera?!

What do micro 4/3 users here in UHH think?

Cheers


Good assessment. Both cameras are great, for different reasons. I knew what they would like about them before pressing play. Chris, primarily a still photographer, needs the OM-1, and Jordan, the video pro, needs the G9 II.

Those who record lots of video can’t wait for the G9 II to arrive. It finally has PDAF, and the best IBIS available.

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Nov 5, 2023 16:16:54   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
R.G. wrote:
I think all of the responses are going to be determined by whether video or stills are the priority.


Yep. Good summary.

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Nov 5, 2023 17:53:42   #
jcboy3
 
billnikon wrote:
My wife had the OM-1 and shot it for a year with me in Florida's wetlands. I would say the only advantage that camera had over my Sony was the fact that it could shoot "pre-capture". Nikon z9 and z8 both can shoot "pre-capture", I am hoping soon that Sony will offer this on their new camera's coming out this year.
I found the camera too small for my hands, and the levers and buttons were not in the right places for me.
And personally, I prefer full frame camera's for that extra wide feeling and the fact that I have a larger image to work with in RAW especially when working in post.
These are personal preferences, my wife now shoots Sony. Again, hoping Sony catches up and offers "pre-capture" on their new camera's.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.
My wife had the OM-1 and shot it for a year with m... (show quote)


Nikon "pre-capture" is JPG only. So you aren't going to get any RAW images to work with. Too bad. I was hoping they would fix that with the Z8; maybe reduce the rates a bit to capture RAW images. But they didn't, and I'm not upgrading.

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Nov 5, 2023 17:56:23   #
jcboy3
 
gwilliams6 wrote:


The Panasonic G9 II seems to be the winner in what really matters. Not expecting great results from the OM1 for video, but the fact that the OM1 AF has not been significantly updated and now loses to the Panasonic is significant.

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Nov 5, 2023 22:26:29   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
jcboy3 wrote:
The Panasonic G9 II seems to be the winner in what really matters. Not expecting great results from the OM1 for video, but the fact that the OM1 AF has not been significantly updated and now loses to the Panasonic is significant.


I don’t know where you got that. For me the OM-1 is the winner in what really matters. Really they’re both very close and while maybe they have Panasonic a slight edge in AF it not enough to make a difference. And as one that shot their previous AF king, the E-M1X, which had decent AF. I can unequivocally state that the OM-1 is a retry nice upgrade.

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Nov 5, 2023 23:35:37   #
gwilliams6
 
burkphoto wrote:
Good assessment. Both cameras are great, for different reasons. I knew what they would like about them before pressing play. Chris, primarily a still photographer, needs the OM-1, and Jordan, the video pro, needs the G9 II.

Those who record lots of video can’t wait for the G9 II to arrive. It finally has PDAF, and the best IBIS available.



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Nov 5, 2023 23:36:57   #
gwilliams6
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I don’t know where you got that. For me the OM-1 is the winner in what really matters. Really they’re both very close and while maybe they have Panasonic a slight edge in AF it not enough to make a difference. And as one that shot their previous AF king, the E-M1X, which had decent AF. I can unequivocally state that the OM-1 is a retry nice upgrade.



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Nov 6, 2023 07:32:21   #
Lagoonguy Loc: New Smyrna Beach, FL
 
My wife and me both have G9 cameras and love the way they handle and we find the travel photos they deliver excellent for our purposes. I recently purchased two OM-1 cameras for us to use with an Olympus 300 f4 and a Pano 100-400 version I for bird photography just before the G9II was announced so I’m somewhat interested for her as she does a lot of video. We will see how well the OM-1s do for her video before entertaining getting the G9II. The larger size but same weight of the G9II vs the G9 probably is not an issue for her. I can’t seem to bring myself to sell my Nikon D500 & 500 PF lens thus far, I just like it. And so It goes.

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Nov 6, 2023 08:30:33   #
jcboy3
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I don’t know where you got that. For me the OM-1 is the winner in what really matters. Really they’re both very close and while maybe they have Panasonic a slight edge in AF it not enough to make a difference. And as one that shot their previous AF king, the E-M1X, which had decent AF. I can unequivocally state that the OM-1 is a retry nice upgrade.


The AF advantage looked very significant. Lost focus means lost shots.

If you use your camera for video, the Panasonic is the clear winner. I use a pair of GH5s for video, and will probably upgrade to the G9ii.

But I rely heavily on the Olympus custom modes, and the ability to recall modes and the recent ability to set save settings to Reset or Hold. This is a major usability issue, and it keeps me from using either my Panasonic or Nikon cameras for most of my photography.

The other issue is Panasonic pre-burst vs Olymus Pro-Capture. It appears that Panasonic upgraded the pre-burst capabilities on the G9ii to make it competitive with the OM1. I would like to see reviews/comparisons on that feature, which is one of the most important featurs of the Olympus cameras that I use regularly. It is so important to me that I have not upgraded to the Nikon Z8 because Nikon only shoots JPGs in their version of this mode.

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Nov 6, 2023 08:49:06   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
Just go out and wear whatever you have to the big dance.... It is obvious to Almost everyone that that the smaller sensor rigs are getting to the point of being " GOOD ENOUGH " for the avg. shooter... The Hubble does things 6" backyard optics cannot do as well... Pick your tool for the job. My hands are shakey, thus my Olympus with it's fantastic IBIS does the walk around job for me. I also like Canon FF and crop for tripod work where there is no shake. A hodgepodge of other stuff like Sony and Foveon make photography more interesting. Quit looking for the BEST and exploit what you have... ANYONE can buy the latest, greatest,and most expensive, but how many can master it ?

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Nov 6, 2023 08:49:15   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jcboy3 wrote:
The AF advantage looked very significant. Lost focus means lost shots.

If you use your camera for video, the Panasonic is the clear winner. I use a pair of GH5s for video, and will probably upgrade to the G9ii.

But I rely heavily on the Olympus custom modes, and the ability to recall modes and the recent ability to set save settings to Reset or Hold. This is a major usability issue, and it keeps me from using either my Panasonic or Nikon cameras for most of my photography.

The other issue is Panasonic pre-burst vs Olymus Pro-Capture. It appears that Panasonic upgraded the pre-burst capabilities on the G9ii to make it competitive with the OM1. I would like to see reviews/comparisons on that feature, which is one of the most important featurs of the Olympus cameras that I use regularly. It is so important to me that I have not upgraded to the Nikon Z8 because Nikon only shoots JPGs in their version of this mode.
The AF advantage looked very significant. Lost fo... (show quote)


Keep your newest or best GH5, for hot summer weather video at high bit rates. The G9 II does not promise infinite recording without overheating. Unlike the GH6, S5 II, and S5 IIX, it has no fan. (It still outlasts most other video capable dSLR and mirrorless cameras without fans.) Also, the G9 II does not have time code, if that is important to you for video.

I'm pretty sure the G9 II is a precursor to the G7 (or GH6 II). But we may have to wait for Lumix to release a new version of the S1H full frame hybrid body, before we see another GH body.

The good news is, Micro 4/3 is alive and well. Companies keep releasing new lenses and updating old ones, and at least the flagship models are getting replaced every few years or so. Lumix and Leica are teaming up on optical designs, processor designs, and manufacturing. OM Systems seems serious about their future. So let's hope for more.

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