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Is This Beauty, Is This Art, Is This Both, Is This Neither???
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Sep 24, 2018 13:17:26   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Dick, thanks for looking!
You did comment, you said you liked the composition. But just by looking, you had a reaction beyond the composition. You don't need to know anything about rope, just to state your initial gut reaction. I'll admit, the second I saw this Model I knew exactly what I wanted to do, not because I'm into very large women but because I'm into creating art and I could envision the raw, edgy assault on the eyes and on some's sensibilities!!! LoL
Don't be afraid to state your initial gut reaction, good or bad.
I'm thinking of a series that I could sell!!!
SS
Dick, thanks for looking! br You did comment, you ... (show quote)


Well said sharpshooter, I just didn't look at it that way, thanks!
DickC

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Sep 7, 2023 15:43:19   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
Okay, I'll say it, it's just gross.

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Sep 7, 2023 17:27:01   #
Hassie Loc: Central Pennsylvania
 
Pepper wrote:
Okay, I'll say it, it's just gross.


Yuck!!!

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Sep 9, 2023 12:56:28   #
Golfnut
 
Why did you feel the need to bring back a 5-year old thread?
Especially since you didn't like it.

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Sep 10, 2023 10:17:20   #
nikonwaddy
 
Nope, not art or art nude. It's Fetish. IMHO, a neutral subject.

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Sep 10, 2023 18:45:25   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
nikonwaddy wrote:
Nope, not art or art nude. It's Fetish. IMHO, a neutral subject.


And fetish can't be art? I never heard that rule.

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Sep 10, 2023 21:20:05   #
nikonwaddy
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
And fetish can't be art? I never heard that rule.


As I noted..IMHO, neutral, for some maybe art..for others, maybe not....

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Sep 10, 2023 23:38:39   #
PaulG Loc: Western Australia
 
SharpShooter wrote:
My interest in my personal photography is to always be pushing the boundaries of, and creating what I feel is ART!
Secondary is to inspire other's creative thought to push their own boundaries.
Personally I feel this is one of the most beautiful pieces of photographic nude art I've ever created.
The model is unorthodox as is the genre of Shibari.
On the heels of my last discussion, I'd like to know WHAT and HOW you feel/think about this piece?
I'm glad to answer anything you might ask(when I'm here)
Feel free to critique any aspect of the image.
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My interest in my personal photography is to alway... (show quote)


I guess the important thing is that you like it and have, as you said, a predilection for overweight women. It doesn't appeal to me (at all), though on a positive note I would say that monochrome treatment works far better for this sort of photography than colour - focusses on the simplicity. Also, the fact that her head is turned slightly away adds a little mystery. On a personal level, looking at the image I see an unhealthily overweight person with stretch marks, uncomfortably trussed up. Just my view. But if it appeals to others, you've achieved your aim. All very subjective isn't it? A beautiful flower would have obvious appeal; but so too a weed depending on creative input by the photographer. I'm not drawing any analogy to your model, by the way, with the weed comparrison. One thing that does interest me . . . how long did it take you to tie her up?

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Sep 11, 2023 04:00:42   #
MontanaTrace
 
SharpShooter wrote:
My interest in my personal photography is to always be pushing the boundaries of, and creating what I feel is ART!
Secondary is to inspire other's creative thought to push their own boundaries.
Personally I feel this is one of the most beautiful pieces of photographic nude art I've ever created.
The model is unorthodox as is the genre of Shibari.
On the heels of my last discussion, I'd like to know WHAT and HOW you feel/think about this piece?
I'm glad to answer anything you might ask(when I'm here)
Feel free to critique any aspect of the image.
SS
My interest in my personal photography is to alway... (show quote)


It's grotesque. I don't even want to read the comments.

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Sep 11, 2023 09:43:30   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
Not sure I would be happy with this if it were mine. I assume the OP has the same dilemma and thus the question. Not because of model or subject but because it's harsh... and crisp.. and raw - so you are left to judge it on its content and not the art. If you like this sort of content- either the ropes or the model or bondage - thats who you are shooting it for.

I think you could make it more universally interesting by carefully adjusting things like - lighting, DOF, expression, eye contact, focus, perspective, perhaps fog... crop, add some sort of background... these are things I would consider to make it work better for me , to force the viewer to consider whats going on rather than solve all these things for them with a slap in the face of it. Its sort of Maplethorp'ish of his more controversial images- and I didn't care for his stuff like that either.

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Sep 15, 2023 08:59:18   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
Are they wrapped up for shipping??

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Sep 16, 2023 12:49:31   #
Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
SharpShooter wrote:
My interest in my personal photography is to always be pushing the boundaries of, and creating what I feel is ART!
Secondary is to inspire other's creative thought to push their own boundaries.
Personally I feel this is one of the most beautiful pieces of photographic nude art I've ever created.
The model is unorthodox as is the genre of Shibari.
On the heels of my last discussion, I'd like to know WHAT and HOW you feel/think about this piece?
I'm glad to answer anything you might ask(when I'm here)
Feel free to critique any aspect of the image.
SS
My interest in my personal photography is to alway... (show quote)


Photographically this is a well done shot. I'll give you that. But, I'm sorry, I wouldn't want to look at it before lunch. Most unappealing!! I'd consider it "Art" but never would I consider it "Beauty". It reminded me of an Italian deli.





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Sep 16, 2023 18:57:16   #
PaulG Loc: Western Australia
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
Photographically this is a well done shot. I'll give you that. But, I'm sorry, I wouldn't want to look at it before lunch. Most unappealing!! I'd consider it "Art" but never would I consider it "Beauty". It reminded me of an Italian deli.


Actually, that's more appealing!

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Sep 17, 2023 18:56:56   #
dat2ra Loc: Sacramento
 
It seems that the consensus is that the photo is technically good but some viewers like heavy women and others do not. And that affects whether they "like" or "dislike" the entire photo. I personally don't care for photos of heavy persons, and in this photo (as others have pointed out) find the white patterned rope distracting (most shibari rope is not patterned). But what does it matter what I think?
Regardless, it has been an interesting discussion; thanks for being such a good sport.

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Sep 21, 2023 22:16:48   #
fldiverman
 
I think it is grotesque. Imho.

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