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Jun 29, 2023 11:22:32   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Finally discrimination for college based on race has been declared unconstitutional.
This can now be applied to all race based discrimination.
A great win for equal rights for ALL Americans regardless of race.

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Jun 29, 2023 12:03:00   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 

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Architect1776 wrote:
Finally discrimination for college based on race has been declared unconstitutional.
This can now be applied to all race based discrimination.
A great win for equal rights for ALL Americans regardless of race.

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Jun 29, 2023 12:41:53   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Finally discrimination for college based on race has been declared unconstitutional.
This can now be applied to all race based discrimination.
A great win for equal rights for ALL Americans regardless of race.


This decision is going to force colleges to get very creative...

to keep doing what they're already doing.

I predict it will change nothing. See if Harvard is 98% Asian-American in 4 years. If not, you can bet they found some new way to cook their admission books.

There is already a big move to ditch standardized testing which will allow colleges to create some new false-meritocracy to let in whoever they want.

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Jun 29, 2023 13:11:22   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
This decision is going to force colleges to get very creative...

to keep doing what they're already doing.

I predict it will change nothing. See if Harvard is 98% Asian-American in 4 years. If not, you can bet they found some new way to cook their admission books.

There is already a big move to ditch standardized testing which will allow colleges to create some new false-meritocracy to let in whoever they want.


There will always be a way.
This takes away the easy way to take low scoring applicants over higher scoring.

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Jun 29, 2023 20:24:28   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
...I predict it will change nothing. See if Harvard is 98% Asian-American in 4 years. If not, you can bet they found some new way to cook their admission books...

Will the other 2% be legacy whites?

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Jun 29, 2023 20:44:46   #
National Park
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Finally discrimination for college based on race has been declared unconstitutional.
This can now be applied to all race based discrimination.
A great win for equal rights for ALL Americans regardless of race.


Easy to say if you are a white person who doesn't understand systemic discrimination.

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Jun 29, 2023 21:25:36   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
National Park wrote:
Easy to say if you are a white person who doesn't understand systemic discrimination.


Guess so but I am Hispanic so no experience.
Like you lilly white libs here in UHH like you.

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Jun 29, 2023 21:43:41   #
National Park
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Guess so but I am Hispanic so no experience.
Like you lilly white libs here in UHH like you.


What makes you think I'm white?

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Jun 29, 2023 21:54:41   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
National Park wrote:
What makes you think I'm white?


Because you are.

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Jun 29, 2023 22:06:31   #
National Park
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Because you are.


Guess again.

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Jun 29, 2023 22:24:17   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
National Park wrote:
Easy to say if you are a white person who doesn't understand systemic discrimination.


Two wrongs don't make a right.

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Jun 29, 2023 22:40:05   #
steve03 Loc: long Lsland
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
This decision is going to force colleges to get very creative...

to keep doing what they're already doing.

I predict it will change nothing. See if Harvard is 98% Asian-American in 4 years. If not, you can bet they found some new way to cook their admission books.

There is already a big move to ditch standardized testing which will allow colleges to create some new false-meritocracy to let in whoever they want.


In the elite colleges such as Harvard there are more students whose families are in the top1% of the economy than all the students whose families come from below that income combined . This decision does nothing to change this, because legacy admissions was not effected by this decision. Kids from rich white families are the ones who will gain by this decision and their families will continue to stay in power positions in the ruling class.

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Jun 29, 2023 22:46:17   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
steve03 wrote:
In the elite colleges such as Harvard there are more students whose families are in the top1% of the economy than all the students whose families come from below that income combined . This decision does nothing to change this, because legacy admissions was not effected by this decision. Kids from rich white families are the ones who will gain by this decision and their families will continue to stay in power positions in the ruling class.


That's true and probably should be addressed. But two wrongs don't make a right. As long as schools are getting government funds, there should be a strict meritocracy. Private schools without any funding should be able to do what they want.

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Jun 30, 2023 07:11:15   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Senator Mitt Romney has said publiclly (I paraphrase) that the Supreme Court in its recent decisions has merely swung toward the middle of the political spectrum. For example, the Court has found that the Constitutiion makes no mention of the practice of abortion, and that therefore this practice has no basis as a constitutional right.

The writers, news media workers, and leftists who proclaim that the Court has outlawed the practice of abortion essentially ignore that the individual states may still address this practice, which they have freely done.

On a higher level, the decision of the Court sides with the states in the long legal and political struggle for states' rights versus the central government. This view applied today may appear reactionary yet it effectively only moves the Court toward the center of legality and political life in our dear nation, as a matter of balance.

Further, the Court decision regarding abortion functions as a two-edged sword, cutting both ways. The right to an abortion on demand now reflects both sides in this matter, depending on where a citizen resides.

Finally, polls have found that about three-thirds of the public in the U.S. supports abortion on demand. Where this split may lead only time will tell.
Architect1776 wrote:
Finally discrimination for college based on race has been declared unconstitutional.
This can now be applied to all race based discrimination.
A great win for equal rights for ALL Americans regardless of race.

Reply
Jun 30, 2023 08:02:16   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
anotherview wrote:
Senator Mitt Romney has said publiclly (I paraphrase) that the Supreme Court in its recent decisions has merely swung toward the middle of the political spectrum. For example, the Court has found that the Constitutiion makes no mention of the practice of abortion, and that therefore this practice has no basis as a constitutional right.

The writers, news media workers, and leftists who proclaim that the Court has outlawed the practice of abortion essentially ignore that the individual states may still address this practice, which they have freely done.

On a higher level, the decision of the Court sides with the states in the long legal and political struggle for states' rights versus the central government. This view applied today may appear reactionary yet it effectively only moves the Court toward the center of legality and political life in our dear nation, as a matter of balance.

Further, the Court decision regarding abortion functions as a two-edged sword, cutting both ways. The right to an abortion on demand now reflects both sides in this matter, depending on where a citizen resides.

Finally, polls have found that about three-thirds of the public in the U.S. supports abortion on demand. Where this split may lead only time will tell.
Senator Mitt Romney has said publiclly (I paraphra... (show quote)


Yes, this post is about the other political pillar of the libs/democrats though. This decision declares that racial discrimination is absolutely unconstitutional as defined in the 14th Amendment. Affirmative action has always been unconstitutional and finally the court has taken the issue on and slapped it down and done so definitively.

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