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Mar 10, 2023 11:29:21   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
Architect1776 wrote:

They are fun once in a while.
I shoot a Trapdoor once in a while for nostalgia but far more enjoy a customized M16 on the range.


Interesting.....but this thread is about using Older Camera.......not Rifles/Firearms.

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Mar 10, 2023 11:34:56   #
gwilliams6
 
ORpilot wrote:
Same here with my college students... I just can't seem to part with my Exakta VX 1000. Or Rollie 35



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Mar 10, 2023 11:37:01   #
gwilliams6
 
RonDavis wrote:
"But what doesn't change for me is the creative thinking process to making great compositions, capturing the right moment and knowing a thing or two about exposure and lighting along the way".

Compensating for the limitations of older cameras will/can make you think about the photo process a little more The most important part of the process is our Brains
"But what doesn't change for me is the creati... (show quote)




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Mar 10, 2023 11:47:50   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
dpullum wrote:
In your first post Ron you should have defined what camera you are talking about. New AI software, Topaz is my experience, can take a significantly cropped JPEG from my 2000 Kodak DC4800 that if shot raw is 3.1 mp and make it clean and sharp. Then treated with Topaz Gigapixel increases the resolution so that a large photo can be printed.

In your case Mirrorless cameras are not that old perhaps 2010 so is at least 10+ mpix and will become great in post-processing.

If upgrading, consider one of the 1" Superzoom pocket cameras. They do more tricks than Houdini and they are there when the image subject presents its self.
In your first post Ron you should have defined wha... (show quote)


I didn't want to be brand specific because that would lead to a different discussion like: which brand depreciates the fastest....Brand X vs Brand Y...etc. The subject "Using the Older Gear" was meant to explore the fun, challenge and satisfaction some of our older cameras can/might give us....sometimes. That's all!

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Mar 10, 2023 11:51:02   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
RonDavis wrote:
This might sound familiar to a few UHHer’s.
Often, or more like once in a while, I’ll take one of my “older” smaller mirrorless cameras (+/- 12MP, 2/3”-1/1.7” sensor) out for a shoot. A personal challenge, and when I do it…..there are a few things of note:
• The difference in size, weight, grip and familiar feel in my hand…..invokes nostalgia…..(a good thing)
• It takes me a few minutes to recall how to adjust the settings and functions….or finding and experimenting with ones I rarely or never used.
• Composing through an older/different OVF, EVF or optical tunnel requires a different level of concentration; and seeing a different presentation of exposure information is inspiring.
• Pressing the shutter, I really notice how fast or slow the functions (auto-focus, metering, FPS, and recording) are presented and perform between shots.
• THEN, I’m back in the zone……remembering how fun and simple all this was, my high expectations…and how wonderfully gratifying the results were (and still are) when the camera was “younger. (Note….I don’t remember my film days being as enjoyable).
• Finally, I remember the temporary (and expensive) remedy for my last serious GAS attack (newer cameras), which caused me to have a class of “older cameras”.
No regrets…... and sometimes the “old camera/old gear” experience helps delay the next GAS attack…….(maybe?
It’s) all good……and keep shooting!
This might sound familiar to a few UHHer’s. br ... (show quote)

I get rid of old cameras BUT I definitely like a lot of old(er) lenses. Minolta AF lenses are some of best I've ever used!

bwa

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Mar 10, 2023 11:54:19   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
RonDavis wrote:
This might sound familiar to a few UHHer’s.
Often, or more like once in a while, I’ll take one of my “older” smaller mirrorless cameras (+/- 12MP, 2/3”-1/1.7” sensor) out for a shoot. A personal challenge, and when I do it…..there are a few things of note:
• The difference in size, weight, grip and familiar feel in my hand…..invokes nostalgia…..(a good thing)
• It takes me a few minutes to recall how to adjust the settings and functions….or finding and experimenting with ones I rarely or never used.
• Composing through an older/different OVF, EVF or optical tunnel requires a different level of concentration; and seeing a different presentation of exposure information is inspiring.
• Pressing the shutter, I really notice how fast or slow the functions (auto-focus, metering, FPS, and recording) are presented and perform between shots.
• THEN, I’m back in the zone……remembering how fun and simple all this was, my high expectations…and how wonderfully gratifying the results were (and still are) when the camera was “younger. (Note….I don’t remember my film days being as enjoyable).
• Finally, I remember the temporary (and expensive) remedy for my last serious GAS attack (newer cameras), which caused me to have a class of “older cameras”.
No regrets…... and sometimes the “old camera/old gear” experience helps delay the next GAS attack…….(maybe?
It’s) all good……and keep shooting!
This might sound familiar to a few UHHer’s. br ... (show quote)


I am STILL USING some of my "Legacy" 📷 cameras from over a decade ago. I was an active Film photographer up until the end of the last century when Film & Developing became scarce.
I then "Settled For" some of the 3 mp Kodak pocket cameras.
While I have "Graduated" to a gently used Nikon D3100, I still enjoy my latest collection of (now) 12 mp pocket cameras with 5 & 10X lenses.
[Also my Samsung S21 5G with the awesome telephoto]

All are equally enjoyable to me.

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Mar 10, 2023 11:54:49   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
camerapapi wrote:
The camera could be old, the person using the camera could be old but still it is the photographer who drives the camera.
I see nothing wrong with old gear, I myself use old cameras and lenses all the time.


It's important to have FUN with old or new cameras.....why else would we do it?

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Mar 10, 2023 11:57:32   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
delder wrote:
I am STILL USING some of my "Legacy" 📷 cameras from over a decade ago. I was an active Film photographer up until the end of the last century when Film & Developing became scarce.
I then "Settled For" some of the 3 mp Kodak pocket cameras.
While I have "Graduated" to a gently used Nikon D3100, I still enjoy my latest collection of (now) 12 mp pocket cameras with 5 & 10X lenses.
[Also my Samsung S21 5G with the awesome telephoto]

All are equally enjoyable to me.
I am STILL USING some of my "Legacy" 📷 ... (show quote)


Your last sentence is on point! Keep the joy.....Keep shooting!

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Mar 10, 2023 12:00:26   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
When I go from teaching my Digital Photography or Photojournalism classes and teach my 35mm B&W film class I get an instant return to the beginnings of my professional career, decades ago. It is a revelation about how far the gear and gear experience has changed.

But what doesn't change for me is the creative thinking process to making great compositions, capturing the right moment and knowing a thing or two about exposure and lighting along the way. And the anticipation and anxiety of having to wait until the film is developed and those negatives are on the light table to see what you have, is a great pause for both me and my university students in our world of instant image gratification.

I am happy to exist in both worlds of photography, on the cutting edge of the best of the latest tech, but also still having my hands on teaching, preserving and passing on first-hand the history of photography, and exposing young creative minds to another "new" creative medium.

And amazingly after weeks of their struggles and learning curves with the cameras, film, developing and printing processes, most of my 35mm B&W film class students come to embrace it as a "cool" thing by the end of the semester. And many then buy their own used SLR or rangefinder film cameras to add to their favorite smartphones.

Personally I still have a one of my old SLRs a Canon F1, and one of my old DSLRs a Nikon D3, but I have sold all my other DSLRs and earlier mirrorless cameras as I upgraded to better performing mirrorless models for my professional and personal work. I still get to use some older model DLSR and mirrorless cameras that we have in the university camera/lens kits for use by our photo students. I have to keep up with how they all work to help my students learn how to master the use of them.

Cheers and best to you all.
When I go from teaching my Digital Photography or ... (show quote)


Your students are very fortunate.....learning the full gamete of photography..... Best of Luck

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Mar 10, 2023 12:04:39   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
RonDavis wrote:
It's good to have a range of USEFUL equipment....old or new. As long as you have fun getting the desired results....why use them.


Agreed on desired results. That's why dumping the old equipment is emphasized in my many posts on the subject. Or still another idea, why are people replacing perfectly good equipment??

And again, if you've replaced equipment with something better, why are you holding onto the old?

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Mar 10, 2023 12:05:49   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
rehess wrote:
It is great - and familiar - backup.


At what point ever did you employ that old equipment in this new back-up role?

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Mar 10, 2023 12:13:14   #
tenny52 Loc: San Francisco
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
About the only old gear are my mechanics tools because they haven't made anything better to do the job, and firearms because the oldies need love & other reasons😎😎


How old is considered old? Any songs after "My Life Will Go On" are new songs. Cars built after 2010 are new cars.
I am still listening to the 60s, 70s songs mostly, driving my newest 2014Prius which I bought 5 years ago. I am still using my 4 years old Samsung A70. I am still shooting with mainly my D610 even though I bought a newer Fuji T20; I just ordered my Insta360 X3 as my second camera for my coming trip to China I am 70 years old but with a last name Young.

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Mar 10, 2023 12:32:39   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
At what point ever did you employ that old equipment in this new back-up role?

As a matter of fact, I used my film Pentax “Super Program” two days ago. It has been longer since I used my digital Pentax K-30 …… I see the date on the last picture was Jan 28, 2023.

I got my current camera {a Pentax KP} on Back Friday 2018.

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Mar 10, 2023 12:34:09   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Agreed on desired results. That's why dumping the old equipment is emphasized in my many posts on the subject. Or still another idea, why are people replacing perfectly good equipment??

And again, if you've replaced equipment with something better, why are you holding onto the old?


Procrastinating the inevitable sale

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Mar 10, 2023 12:42:09   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
RonDavis wrote:
Procrastinating the inevitable sale

Adorama recently had an article about “Old P&S Cameras” - illustrations included an old Canon Elph. That reminded me of two old Elphs {a SD1000 and a SD1100} I still have in a closet, but haven’t used since I got my Pentax Q-7 eight-plus years ago. I need to find them and see if anyone will give me money for them.

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