FV Mode on Your Camera (Page 2): Thy keep it for the old UHH reactionaries. I do not see how you could have used it though before it was invented as there is nothing like it on any...

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

User ID wrote:

Ive been using FV mode since waaaaay before it was "invented" or repackaged. Therefor I see it as a Good Thing.

Ive always said we only need one AE mode, and that it doesnt really matter which one. From what Im reading, FV mode confirms that (but it neglects to remove all those other AE modes from the mode dial).

Thy keep it for the old UHH reactionaries.
I do not see how you could have used it though before it was invented as there is nothing like it on any camera that does not have FV.

aflundi Loc: Albuquerque, NM

That's a great idea for control simplification. In fact I seriously think Canon ought to try releasing a camera model with no exposure or EC dials that only runs in Fv mode. There's really no need for other (P-A-S-M) exposure modes. Kudos to Canon. I wish Nikon would do it.

It reminds me of similar cleverness of panasonic bridge cameras that did something similar using one push-click-dial where you push the dial to select the next option and turn the dial to adjust the option. Very intuitive and can be quite quick.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

aflundi wrote:

That's a great idea for control simplification. I... (show quote)

Next generation ones might do that.

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Architect1776 wrote:

Thy keep it for the old UHH reactionaries.
I do not see how you could have used it though before it was invented as there is nothing like it on any camera that does not have FV.

Youre underestimating me.

Ive explained my methods many times in the past and will do so no more. Too tired of casting pearls before swine. FV is not a new development. It a repackaging. And at that it appears to be a very good thing. A better thing would be having only FV and M on the mode dial ... I spoze it could then be a switch instead of a dial. Less useless clutter is always good.

Were I to re-explain my own "proto FV" then the nit pickers could perhaps pick some nits. But the essence is that from what Ive read, FV looks very good to me on a ben dare don dat basis !

BebuLamar

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Youre underestimating me. br br Ive explained my ... (show quote)

How about 3 A's? One A for each parameters. ISO, Shutter speed and Aperture. Turn it off the A position then you can set for whatever value you want and the camera decides how to set the parameters that you have on A. Fuji has done some doube A's. An A for aperture and an A for shutter speed. Now just need to add one for ISO.
That way there is no M, no Av no Tv, no S and no P. All A's.

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BebuLamar wrote:

How about 3 A's? One A for each parameters. ISO, Shutter speed and Aperture. Turn it off the A position then you can set for whatever value you want and the camera decides how to set the parameters that you have on A. Fuji has done some doube A's. An A for aperture and an A for shutter speed. Now just need to add one for ISO.
That way there is no M, no Av no Tv, no S and no P. All A's.

I very distinctly remember when and why Canon renamed A and S modes to Av and Tv, and that was just part of a bad thing. 40+ years later I choose to view their Fv mode as Canon finally making amends.

FWIW, "Fv" is a silly name for it. If it must share dial space with A, S, and P then I sorta understand it. But it could as easily just be "P" as the only mode other than "M". It is, after all, simply a very versatile approach to P-mode. User input to P-mode has been around for a long time.

But if you think three A-modes is cool, then kick start your own camera company and let us know how that goes ;-)

charles brown Loc: Tennesse

Architect1776 wrote:

You are welcome.
Now mess around with it.
I found the video well worth viewing as it helped see what happens in the viewfinder and understand it.
Have fun with the new found power it will provide.

For many years I used the P mode and often wondered why this wasn't mentioned more often, especially for newbies. Last year I got a Canon RP and tried using the Fv mode and definitely can see the benefits it offers. However, I found it difficult to use, but also determined it was me (81) and not the camera. I plan to try using Fv again fairly soon, but it may be a case of not being able to teach an old dog new tricks.

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charles brown wrote:

For many years I used the P mode and often wondered why this wasn't mentioned more often, especially for newbies. Last year I got a Canon RP and tried using the Fv mode and definitely can see the benefits it offers. However, I found it difficult to use, but also determined it was me (81) and not the camera. I plan to try using Fv again fairly soon, but it may be a case of not being able to teach an old dog new tricks.

Just old tricks repackaged. Youll get the hang of it sooner than later.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

charles brown wrote:

For many years I used the P mode and often wondered why this wasn't mentioned more often, especially for newbies. Last year I got a Canon RP and tried using the Fv mode and definitely can see the benefits it offers. However, I found it difficult to use, but also determined it was me (81) and not the camera. I plan to try using Fv again fairly soon, but it may be a case of not being able to teach an old dog new tricks.

Watch the video, it really helped me. I read the instructions carefully over and over but this put it all together.
Remember that Program mode was first introduced to the camera world on the Canon A-1 camera in 1978, at the same time as Av mode.
1976 the popular AE 1 came out with shutter priority (Now called Tv). The Canon F-1 had an attachment in 1971 that made it also shutter priority automatic and the EF then built it in in 1973.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

User ID wrote:

Just old tricks repackaged. Youll get the hang of it sooner than later.

Old tricks?
Where and what camera?

BebuLamar

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I very distinctly remember when and why Canon rena... (show quote)

Nah just thinking. If I were to build a camera it would have programmable mode. That is the user can input his/her own algorithm on how the camera should choose the parameters.
But for me to use a camera? I only need manual mode. I am in no hurry.
But to make money I would build the cameras that I don't want not what I want because so far the ones that sell well I don't like them.

User ID

Architect1776 wrote:

Old tricks?
Where and what camera?

"Where ?"
In the hands of insightful users.

"What camera ?"
Most any multimode camera.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

User ID wrote:

"Where ?"
In the hands of insightful users.

"What camera ?"
Most any multimode camera.

In other words it is NOT in any other cameras under any name.

User ID

BebuLamar wrote:

Nah just thinking. If I were to build a camera it would have programmable mode. That is the user can input his/her own algorithm on how the camera should choose the parameters.
But for me to use a camera? I only need manual mode. I am in no hurry.

There are a few rare instances where I depart from M-mode so I always add an extra mark to the "M" for a quick visual confirmation that all is normal.

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Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

User ID wrote:

There are a few rare instances where I depart from M-mode so I always add an extra mark to the "M" for a quick visual confirmation that all is normal.

Everyone has those, where is the FV?
It sounds and looks like you do not understand it with your obstinance and responses.
Study this mode then discuss.