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Jul 14, 2022 09:09:50   #
starlifter Loc: Towson, MD
 
If this keeps we might need a separate category or section for mirrorless.

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Jul 14, 2022 09:21:50   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
starlifter wrote:
If this keeps we might need a separate category or section for mirrorless.


...and bridge, and pocket, and, heavy, and light, and black, and silver, and....

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Jul 14, 2022 09:23:22   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
It is like bragging about what kind of paint gun you used to refinish your car. Its the end result, not the tool. No one has ever asked me if my my images were mirrored or not...

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Jul 14, 2022 09:29:53   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
catchlight.. wrote:
It is like bragging about what kind of paint gun you used to refinish your car. Its the end result, not the tool. No one has ever asked me if my my images were mirrored or not...



Or what pans & stove a chef uses,
what saws and sanders a cabinet maker used,
What hammers and chisels a sculptor uses,
...

But it's important to some.
Maybe to affirm their own equipment? Or help them decide what to get?

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Jul 14, 2022 09:55:29   #
Jim Bianco
 
Quixdraw wrote:
Who cares! I can do everything I need to do with my DSLRs - mirrorless I have, even good ones like Leica and Ricoh are just for niche work. My real cameras and their capability will outlive me. Go where you will, I'll keep the real tools!


I am with you, great statement, DSLRS will always be there, they are built like a rock compared to mirrorless, look at the D 700 and there 12meg. Sensor still take great pics. Hats off to DSLRS!!!!

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Jul 14, 2022 09:59:56   #
scubadoc Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
Spirit Vision Photography wrote:
The viewer cannot tell if a quality image was made with a DSLR or a mirrorless camera.


However, look at 100 consecutive images taken by a DSLR and a mirrorless of the same shoot, and you will likely see a higher percentage of keepers with the mirrorless. Mirrorless cameras have better focusing capability and for the most part better control over exposure than do DSLRs.

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Jul 14, 2022 10:00:11   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Imagine a silent world of mirrorless swans. The slap of a mirror will shortly be treated like lighting a cigarette indoors. You and your obnoxious loud camera will be asked to leave.

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Jul 14, 2022 10:02:09   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Imagine a silent world of mirrorless swans. The slap of a mirror will shortly be treated like lighting a cigarette indoors. You and your obnoxious loud camera will be asked to leave.


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Jul 14, 2022 10:05:01   #
Jim Bianco
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you can't see the difference, you've never owned a mirrorless camera.

I guess I will never own one. If I had the money to buy one I would not.I am not out to impress anybody. I take pics to enjoy with my little D610 and great glass, that's where it is at anyway.

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Jul 14, 2022 10:28:53   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
I have mirrorless and DSLR cameras. I enjoy using both kinds and can get beautiful images with both.
It's not just the tools you have, but how you use them to get the end results.

Will

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Jul 14, 2022 11:01:58   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
cedymock wrote:
All that and you still shoot FILM!
I think all the mirrorless owners should destroy all their photos that were taken before their beloved mirrorless.
Or how about this; you use what you like I will use what I like and let's not degrade each other's equipment.
Charles


I don’t know what you’re so butt-hurt about. Nobody degraded your equipment. The only degrading I saw was the ridiculous claim that mirrorless aren’t real tools.

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Jul 14, 2022 11:16:43   #
BARRY COWAN
 
Reading these comments with a bit of amusement, I am reminded of some good advice given to me many years ago: Never argue with an idiot, the unknowing passerby won’t be able to tell the two of you apart.

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Jul 14, 2022 11:20:55   #
Hip Coyote
 
Mirrorless rule now. But not for long. AI built into phones (I'm futurizing here) will eventually make the dedicated camera go the way of the Dodo. Right now the lens quality and inability to, say, have a long tele on a phone makes the phone not so good. But, as we have seen in Topaz, software can fill in a lot of blanks. Eventually, there will be no focal lengths, no ISO, because one will capture the scene and then decide how much to crop. AI will fill in the blanks - eliminate noise completely, so there is no noise. Who would you bet your money on, Google / Apple or Sony/ Nikon / Canon / Oly? For every one engineer the camera companies have, the tech companies have hundreds. And they are predatory as hell.

I enjoy my mirrorless cameras (Oly....what all evil geniuses use) but know that maybe it might all be transitory and the hobby / craft just might change in uncertain ways. This is not a discussion of what we would like, your existing equipment, how much we care, but what has happened...and I extended it to what may happen. My bet is with high tech predation in every facet of our lives. The future is messy and unpredictable. A very tough business environment for sure. Existing camera companies really need to figure out the magic sauce that is often incorporated into phones...very robust GPS with little battery drain, automatic uploads to the cloud, massive amounts of info contained in the exif, perhaps auto identification of faces, etc. Maybe the next step will be realtime tethering of a camera to a phone so that these features are present. Who knows?

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Jul 14, 2022 11:24:25   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rmalarz wrote:
I'm with you, Quixdraw. The majority of the folks that seem to be focused on this are equipment-centric photographers. Though I do have to admit to using a couple of mirrorless cameras, https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-735152-1.html. I also tried another mirrorless and put the sensor back on a mirrored body. It's the photograph that counts, not the equipment with which it is taken.

What I'd really like to see is someone post a thread enumerating the benefits of mirrorless over DSLR. Just the facts, not the emotional ties.
--Bob
I'm with you, Quixdraw. The majority of the folks ... (show quote)


It seems to me that Quixdraw is the one focused on equipment. There have been many posts enumerating the advantages of mirrorless. No need to do that again.

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Jul 14, 2022 11:28:11   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
It seems to me that Quixdraw is the one focused on equipment. There have been many posts enumerating the advantages of mirrorless. No need to do that again.


There was a great list in this thread earlier ...

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