camera repair disappointment
May 22, 2022 10:04:44 #
May 22, 2022 10:07:02 #
there is nothing wrong with the board or my other fuji would not work with no battery and it does, the card that is !
May 22, 2022 10:10:36 #
why if the card loading depends on the main board the why does my other fuji work fine with no battery doesn't the board depend on the power supply?
May 22, 2022 10:12:35 #
May 22, 2022 10:14:17 #
there is only 4 ways the card can go in and i tried them all !
May 22, 2022 10:53:22 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
Flash Falasca wrote:
do you work for fuji ?
Since you are not using "Quote Reply," we have no idea who any of your replies are directed to. By counting, I think this one was directed to me. No, I do not work for Fuji. But based on what you have told us, I do not think they have done anything wrong.
May 22, 2022 11:41:59 #
Flash Falasca wrote:
there is nothing wrong with the board or my other fuji would not work with no battery and it does, the card that is !
You think that Fuji techs diagnose your camera's problem wrong? If so what causes your card not to lock in? It's supposed to lock in without having to close the cover right? It did it before correct?
In my opinion the card socket is on what they call the main power board.
May 22, 2022 11:44:12 #
BebuLamar wrote:
You think that Fuji techs diagnose your camera's problem wrong? If so what causes your card not to lock in? It's supposed to lock in without having to close the cover right? It did it before correct?
Maybe the reader is part of the main board.
Individual components are rarely replaced anymore.
May 22, 2022 11:52:32 #
Longshadow wrote:
Maybe the reader is part of the main board.
Individual components are rarely replaced anymore.
Maybe the reader is part of the main board.
Individual components are rarely replaced anymore.
I yes I do understand that $400 is a lot of money for a card reader socket but it's the way cameras are built today. They are not built for easy and inexpensive repair but rather for easy and inexpensive assemby when they were made. Yes anything can break but the number of cameras need service before the owners replace them are a small percentage.
May 22, 2022 12:04:05 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I yes I do understand that $400 is a lot of money for a card reader socket but it's the way cameras are built today. They are not built for easy and inexpensive repair but rather for easy and inexpensive assemby when they were made. Yes anything can break but the number of cameras need service before the owners replace them are a small percentage.
They probably only replace the board assembly on which the reader is mounted.
Ergo, individual components not being replaced anymore.
It's not $400 for a card reader socket, it's $400 for the whole board, precipitated by the socket malfunction.
May 22, 2022 12:22:35 #
Longshadow wrote:
They probably only replace the board assembly on which the reader is mounted.
Ergo, individual components not being replaced anymore.
It's not $400 for a card reader socket, it's $400 for the whole board, precipitated by the socket malfunction.
Ergo, individual components not being replaced anymore.
It's not $400 for a card reader socket, it's $400 for the whole board, precipitated by the socket malfunction.
I know that's what they said they do. The problem is only with the latch on the socket but the whole card has to be replaced and thus the high cost.
My Nikon Df meter failed and Nikon has to replace what they called the exposure board which cost me $440. I just have to pay it. I used the camera meterless for a few months. I was good as guessing at the exposure settings and it was fun too but I had to pay because I want my camera to work the way it's supposed to.
May 22, 2022 12:29:44 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I know that's what they said they do. The problem is only with the latch on the socket but the whole card has to be replaced and thus the high cost.
My Nikon Df meter failed and Nikon has to replace what they called the exposure board which cost me $440. I just have to pay it. I used the camera meterless for a few months. I was good as guessing at the exposure settings and it was fun too but I had to pay because I want my camera to work the way it's supposed to.
My Nikon Df meter failed and Nikon has to replace what they called the exposure board which cost me $440. I just have to pay it. I used the camera meterless for a few months. I was good as guessing at the exposure settings and it was fun too but I had to pay because I want my camera to work the way it's supposed to.
Yup, just like a 20¢ surface mount component like a capacitor/transistor/IC going bad... They won't bother with taking that component off the board and replacing it. MUCH faster and less work to replace the whole board.
I used to do 99% of all my electronic repairs, but I won't touch surface mounts.
And that was back when individual component availability was excellent.
May 22, 2022 12:42:38 #
Longshadow wrote:
Yup, just like a 20¢ surface mount component like a capacitor/transistor/IC going bad... They won't bother with taking that component off the board and replacing it. MUCH faster and less work to replace the whole board.
I used to do 99% of all my electronic repairs, but I won't touch surface mounts.
And that was back when individual component availability was excellent.
I used to do 99% of all my electronic repairs, but I won't touch surface mounts.
And that was back when individual component availability was excellent.
I have a dilemma. I have a number of output card that use IC in dual inline package but now the manufacturers quit making them but have the equivalent in surface mount package. I can solder the surface mount IC to an adapter so that I can use it on the circuit board designed for dual inline package. But it's too much of a pain to solder the surface mount IC.
May 22, 2022 12:47:54 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I have a dilemma. I have a number of output card that use IC in dual inline package but now the manufacturers quit making them but have the equivalent in surface mount package. I can solder the surface mount IC to an adapter so that I can use it on the circuit board designed for dual inline package. But it's too much of a pain to solder the surface mount IC.
Technology changes...
I'll bet that 99% of what used to be discrete and discrete interface circuitry is now in an SOIC.
Are 74LS, 74ALS, 74HC devices still available??? Probably none in a DIP package, possibly in an SOIC package.
May 22, 2022 13:12:24 #
There is no answer to this question. The Op will never know if the estimate he received was legitimate or not because there are too many variables or possibilities. That is unless the problem recurs and the camera fails again- then he will know if they were right!
Here is my experience. In addition to my commercial photograher business, for about 25 years I partnered with a business that specializes in electric flas custom builds, modifications, and repairs. We shared premises with a camera repair shop- I can tell you stores and write a book
I di soothe minor repairs and were mostly involved in lamp head designs, and custom installation in studios, studios handling automotive advertis photography, and sports venues that our in house strobe installations.
Photographe would come in with faulty flash gear and complain, similarly to the OP, that the unts were sent to the authorized shop and the estimate was outrageously high. Here are the possibilities:
!. The folk's dogs the reais are not master technicians, but only parts changers. Rather later than troubleshooting a circuit board or point-to-point wire circuit, would simply replace the entire board or perhaps all the major components and charge accordingly. Our technician, at the time, had the knowledge and equipment to test each capacitor, chip, semiconductor, resistor, coil, and whatever and would only replace faulty parts., however, oftentimes, certain microcircuits and otere components were sealed, encased in epoxy, of undetermined electrical values, or not obtainable by non-authorized shops. A workaround would be the most costly than the original estimate.
2. The card mechanism (the door, springs, physical contacts) are mechanical, not electronic- it is subject to wear and tear, accidental abuse, dirt and dust etc. If this mechanism is totally integrated with a circuit board, the mechanical aspect cannot be separately repaired, lies an external switch or really, and the enter board needs to be replaced.
3. The cost of troubleshooting the board, in terms of labour, and replacing tiny components may exceed the cost of replacing the entire board. Some of the boards may be modular and impossible to individually repair.
4. Hopefull not, but there may be a possibility that once a camera is received for repair, at certain facilities, there is simply a minimum chare regarded of the issue.
OK, I know I am talking flash, not camera but my camera repair guy, that shared the shop, had simial issues quite frequently. The complexity and miniaturization of circuitry that is needed to support all the features in mode digital camera would certainly exhibit the formation difficulties in certain repar cases.
Sometimes, malfunctions in electronic devices are intermittent whereby the kida fix themselves and the recur, usually athe most inopportune times.
Of course, times have changed, especially in technology. Our shot had a miriad of old-fashioned test gear- precision voltmeters, multimeters, oscilloscopes, capacitor testers, specialized get to test chips, semiconductors and transistors, and more. Perhaps nowadays the maybe a poor that interphases with a computer, lie in your car that reads out all the diagnostics???
We closed the shop about 10 years ago. Sadly my partner in that business passed away. In the old days sometimes folks would bring in a faulty unit, we would pop the hood, perhaps change a fuse, hit the innards with some compressed air, give something a shot of contact cleaner and send it on the way with little or no charge.
In cases like this, we can only guess and speculate. I would lite to think that Fuji operates a hones repar facility.
Here is my experience. In addition to my commercial photograher business, for about 25 years I partnered with a business that specializes in electric flas custom builds, modifications, and repairs. We shared premises with a camera repair shop- I can tell you stores and write a book
I di soothe minor repairs and were mostly involved in lamp head designs, and custom installation in studios, studios handling automotive advertis photography, and sports venues that our in house strobe installations.Photographe would come in with faulty flash gear and complain, similarly to the OP, that the unts were sent to the authorized shop and the estimate was outrageously high. Here are the possibilities:
!. The folk's dogs the reais are not master technicians, but only parts changers. Rather later than troubleshooting a circuit board or point-to-point wire circuit, would simply replace the entire board or perhaps all the major components and charge accordingly. Our technician, at the time, had the knowledge and equipment to test each capacitor, chip, semiconductor, resistor, coil, and whatever and would only replace faulty parts., however, oftentimes, certain microcircuits and otere components were sealed, encased in epoxy, of undetermined electrical values, or not obtainable by non-authorized shops. A workaround would be the most costly than the original estimate.
2. The card mechanism (the door, springs, physical contacts) are mechanical, not electronic- it is subject to wear and tear, accidental abuse, dirt and dust etc. If this mechanism is totally integrated with a circuit board, the mechanical aspect cannot be separately repaired, lies an external switch or really, and the enter board needs to be replaced.
3. The cost of troubleshooting the board, in terms of labour, and replacing tiny components may exceed the cost of replacing the entire board. Some of the boards may be modular and impossible to individually repair.
4. Hopefull not, but there may be a possibility that once a camera is received for repair, at certain facilities, there is simply a minimum chare regarded of the issue.
OK, I know I am talking flash, not camera but my camera repair guy, that shared the shop, had simial issues quite frequently. The complexity and miniaturization of circuitry that is needed to support all the features in mode digital camera would certainly exhibit the formation difficulties in certain repar cases.
Sometimes, malfunctions in electronic devices are intermittent whereby the kida fix themselves and the recur, usually athe most inopportune times.
Of course, times have changed, especially in technology. Our shot had a miriad of old-fashioned test gear- precision voltmeters, multimeters, oscilloscopes, capacitor testers, specialized get to test chips, semiconductors and transistors, and more. Perhaps nowadays the maybe a poor that interphases with a computer, lie in your car that reads out all the diagnostics???
We closed the shop about 10 years ago. Sadly my partner in that business passed away. In the old days sometimes folks would bring in a faulty unit, we would pop the hood, perhaps change a fuse, hit the innards with some compressed air, give something a shot of contact cleaner and send it on the way with little or no charge.
In cases like this, we can only guess and speculate. I would lite to think that Fuji operates a hones repar facility.
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