camera repair disappointment (Page 3): The content of your posts is almost always on point and interesting, but sometimes takes a bit of work to decipher. Do you not beleive in spell...

MDI Mainer

E.L.. Shapiro wrote:

There is no answer to this question. The Op will never know if the estimate he received was legitimate or not because there are too many variables or possibilities. That is unless the problem recurs and the camera fails again- then he will know if they were right!

Here is my experience. In addition to my commercial photograher business, for about 25 years I partnered with a business that specializes in electric flas custom builds, modifications, and repairs. We shared premises with a camera repair shop- I can tell you stores and write a book

I di soothe minor repairs and were mostly involved in lamp head designs, and custom installation in studios, studios handling automotive advertis photography, and sports venues that our in house strobe installations.

Photographe would come in with faulty flash gear and complain, similarly to the OP, that the unts were sent to the authorized shop and the estimate was outrageously high. Here are the possibilities:

!. The folk's dogs the reais are not master technicians, but only parts changers. Rather later than troubleshooting a circuit board or point-to-point wire circuit, would simply replace the entire board or perhaps all the major components and charge accordingly. Our technician, at the time, had the knowledge and equipment to test each capacitor, chip, semiconductor, resistor, coil, and whatever and would only replace faulty parts., however, oftentimes, certain microcircuits and otere components were sealed, encased in epoxy, of undetermined electrical values, or not obtainable by non-authorized shops. A workaround would be the most costly than the original estimate.

2. The card mechanism (the door, springs, physical contacts) are mechanical, not electronic- it is subject to wear and tear, accidental abuse, dirt and dust etc. If this mechanism is totally integrated with a circuit board, the mechanical aspect cannot be separately repaired, lies an external switch or really, and the enter board needs to be replaced.

3. The cost of troubleshooting the board, in terms of labour, and replacing tiny components may exceed the cost of replacing the entire board. Some of the boards may be modular and impossible to individually repair.

4. Hopefull not, but there may be a possibility that once a camera is received for repair, at certain facilities, there is simply a minimum chare regarded of the issue.

OK, I know I am talking flash, not camera but my camera repair guy, that shared the shop, had simial issues quite frequently. The complexity and miniaturization of circuitry that is needed to support all the features in mode digital camera would certainly exhibit the formation difficulties in certain repar cases.

Sometimes, malfunctions in electronic devices are intermittent whereby the kida fix themselves and the recur, usually athe most inopportune times.

Of course, times have changed, especially in technology. Our shot had a miriad of old-fashioned test gear- precision voltmeters, multimeters, oscilloscopes, capacitor testers, specialized get to test chips, semiconductors and transistors, and more. Perhaps nowadays the maybe a poor that interphases with a computer, lie in your car that reads out all the diagnostics???

We closed the shop about 10 years ago. Sadly my partner in that business passed away. In the old days sometimes folks would bring in a faulty unit, we would pop the hood, perhaps change a fuse, hit the innards with some compressed air, give something a shot of contact cleaner and send it on the way with little or no charge.

In cases like this, we can only guess and speculate. I would lite to think that Fuji operates a hones repar facility.

There is no answer to this question. The Op will n... (show quote)

The content of your posts is almost always on point and interesting, but sometimes takes a bit of work to decipher. Do you not beleive in spell check?

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Flash Falasca wrote:

My SD card would not lock in on my fuji X-S10 came... (show quote)

1. They may have detected a fault (small crack that will grow) in the main board that will cause problems in the future. Changing it now is preventive maintenance.

2. When they disassembled the camera to diagnose the trouble and put it back together it may have cleaned lint or something out of the card slot/lock or realigned something and solved the card lock problem as a result.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Flash Falasca wrote:

there is only 4 ways the card can go in and i tried them all !

To begin with you don't seem to know how to use "quote reply" so we know who the dickens you are replying to!

BebuLamar

robertjerl wrote:

1. They may have detected a fault (small crack that will grow) in the main board that will cause problems in the future. Changing it now is preventive maintenance.

2. When they disassembled the camera to diagnose the trouble and put it back together it may have cleaned lint or something out of the card slot/lock or realigned something and solved the card lock problem as a result.

Keep in mind that the camera was as the same as when the OP sent it to Fuji. That is it still has the same problem but the OP found that he can use it if he close the cover.

MDI Mainer

robertjerl wrote:

To begin with you don't seem to know how to use "quote reply" so we know who the dickens you are replying to!

I personally find using "quote reply" much less therapeutic than uncontrolled spewing.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

BebuLamar wrote:

Keep in mind that the camera was as the same as when the OP sent it to Fuji. That is it still has the same problem but the OP found that he can use it if he close the cover.

The blinking cover should be closed anyway. Some cameras won't trip the shutter with the cover open.

BebuLamar

robertjerl wrote:

The blinking cover should be closed anyway. Some cameras won't trip the shutter with the cover open.

But the card still falls out if the cover isn't closed which is why the OP sent the camera to Fuji in the first place.

Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore

Makes sense that card plugs directly into motherboard. Why makes an extra piece and connection.
Maybe when they opened it they saw something that needed to be replaced to bring it up to factory specs. Give it time and see what happens. I seriously doubt a big company would make a point or ripping people off. Some private repair shops might but I think they saw something.
Why not call tech repair service and see what the repair tech found to reach that diagnosis

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

BebuLamar wrote:

But the card still falls out if the cover isn't closed which is why the OP sent the camera to Fuji in the first place.

And if the catch to hold the card in the slot is on the main board (and those things are soldered, not plug in) and he declined to replace the board then of course the problem was not fixed.

Back in the 60's they started making parts on most things to be replaced, not repaired. In the Army 66-69 the HQ Motor Pool told us "Don't bring a Jeep in saying something sounds funny, drive it until it breaks so we know which part to replace."

Grahame Loc: Fiji

Flash Falasca wrote:

My SD card would not lock in on my fuji X-S10 came... (show quote)

So the people at Fuji repair asked you this question within their report and quotation...........................

Flash Falasca wrote:

Let us know if you have any questions or how you would like to proceed.

Did you ask them 'why' the main board needs replacing?

User ID

Grahame wrote:

Did you ask them 'why' the main board needs replacing?

Seems obvious enough. "Factory" techs replace whole assemblies. They never solder parts on boards. Everything that they do involves pressure connections. Theyre basically semi-skilled labor who just follow instructions.

Hand soldering is more than just a job skill. Its an artisinal craft. The solder in the camera when it was built was done robotically. Its innards are designed to facilitate that.

Grahame Loc: Fiji

User ID wrote:

Seems obvious enough. "Factory" techs replace whole assemblies. They never solder parts on boards. Everything that they do involves pressure connections.

What seems "obvious enough"? Your guess that you know exactly what camera techs 'always' do, in every situation for every bit of kit?

The op was given the opportunity to ask a question and it appears he may not of, subsequently then going on a rant, based upon what he has posted.

If the op had asked a question he 'may' have received a response such as 'the board has been cracked i.w.o of the card slot mounting and we are unable to replace the slot assembly necessitating the entire board replacement'. Thus understanding the reason.

It pays to think outside the box at times.

Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore

I'm sure this will fail again. Day,week,month year. I can guess at a one in a lifetime event will fail

Grahame Loc: Fiji

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Bill_de Loc: US

Grahame wrote:

What seems "obvious enough"? Your guess... (show quote)

The OP was to busy composing his rant for the web. Quote:

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