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May 10, 2022 17:29:11   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I have this bridge I can sell you for rock-bottom prices. Just ask and I’ll give you an honest answer to how I can sell it so cheap!
😜🤪😈


Any details? Total span, height and how many lanes in each direction, and how much, and can you deliver?
Ray. (oh and what colors do they come in)?

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May 10, 2022 17:36:31   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
KindaSpikey wrote:
Any details? Total span, height and how many lanes in each direction, and how much, and can you deliver?
Ray. (oh and what colors do they come in)?


It’s exactly whatever bridge you want it to be.

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May 10, 2022 17:37:10   #
Pam Hewstone
 
Can you let us know the retailers name, one of us here in Australia may know them.

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May 10, 2022 18:09:59   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
I buy pretty much all of my electronics from a company called "Backmarket". Everything they sell is refurbished, and comes with a 30 day return policy, and a 12 month warranty. A lot of their stuff is ex-store display models or as previously mentioned, "open box", or maybe missing the manual etc, and can't be sold "as new". Having said that, my phone (that I'm using right now), had a new store price of around $1200.00. This one cost me $450.00 and when I received it, no original box or charger, it honestly looked and worked like a brand new, straight from the factory phone, and the free shipping took 3 days! Not a scratch on it, and I couldn't be happier! I've also bought a Samsung flat screen smart TV, (tiny scratch on the side, not the screen, and you have to be closer than 12 inches to see it), no original box, Samsung smart watch, and galaxy ear buds, and everything with the 12 month warranty, and unbeatable prices my next purchase is going to be a new laptop. Oh by the way, they also sell cameras and lenses. You need to keep checking their stock because it's constantly changing. So anyway, there really are some genuine bargains out there if you know where to look. There's quite a few "companies" that claim to be just like the one I've mentioned, but a lot of them are not at all legit! And you have to be careful and do some research before you part with any money. I'm very happy and impressed with the place I use, and can't imagine paying full price anywhere else, (unless it's for a specific item that they don't have! And their customer service is also excellent! I'm sure there's other places out there just like this one, but I haven't found any although I'd like to. So sorry for dragging this out for so long, just wanted to share something with you guys that some of you might be interested in. Hope you all have a wonderful day!
Ray.

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May 10, 2022 18:14:47   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
It’s exactly whatever bridge you want it to be.


Hmm, now I'm getting a little suspicious!
Ray.

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May 10, 2022 20:21:24   #
Boris77
 
JohnR wrote:
Just curious - are there 2nds in the photographic world? Maybe not grey market but cameras/lenses which do not meet the manufacturers stringent quality standards and are sold off cheaply.
I ask as I'm looking to buy a Tamron lens here in Australia and find 5 out of 6 retailers price is A$1200+ with the 6th selling supposedly the same lens at more than 20% discount - A$850. The retailer insists its genuine Australian stock with full warranty and offers 14 day return if not satisfied. As a retiree that saving is very attractive but I'm concerned I may be buying a substandard product. I don't want to have to try out their 14 day return policy if I do get a poorer quality lens.
Does anyone know if this is a possibility - substandard goods being sold off cheaply?
Just curious - are there 2nds in the photographic ... (show quote)


If you can not walk into the store to view (or return) the product, it is not worth the risk.
Boris

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May 10, 2022 20:35:08   #
rjriggins11 Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
 
Tamron, and Tamron only, can work on their lenses and they won't repair gray market equipment at all. They don't sell parts to repair shops either so you have to use their repair facility. If theirr is a question about the validity of the offer then buy the lens from an authorized seller. You'll be glad you did in the long run. It's going to need service at some point.

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May 13, 2022 07:56:15   #
Dalek Loc: Detroit, Miami, Goffstown
 
Get Refurbished direct from Nikon.

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May 13, 2022 11:41:43   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Ask them directly why their price is too good to be true. Remember, it's too good to be true as you listen to their logic / reasoning, and decide if you want to risk it. Can you afford to find out it's too good to be true?



There well could be a number of reasons for the lower price, but I very much doubt that any of the major manufacturers would risk their good name by allowing out "second quality" branded product! Too easy to get a (though even unwarranted) bad reputation.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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May 13, 2022 11:55:58   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
JohnR wrote:
Just curious - are there 2nds in the photographic world? Maybe not grey market but cameras/lenses which do not meet the manufacturers stringent quality standards and are sold off cheaply.
I ask as I'm looking to buy a Tamron lens here in Australia and find 5 out of 6 retailers price is A$1200+ with the 6th selling supposedly the same lens at more than 20% discount - A$850. The retailer insists its genuine Australian stock with full warranty and offers 14 day return if not satisfied. As a retiree that saving is very attractive but I'm concerned I may be buying a substandard product. I don't want to have to try out their 14 day return policy if I do get a poorer quality lens.
Does anyone know if this is a possibility - substandard goods being sold off cheaply?
Just curious - are there 2nds in the photographic ... (show quote)


I doubt there is a grey market Tamron lens in Austrailia. What I would check to see is if the cheaper lens is an older version of the more expensive lens.

Of course you should go online and check reviews of the retailer.

Good luck.

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May 13, 2022 12:51:45   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Dalek wrote:
Get Refurbished direct from Nikon.


I didn't know Nikon sold Tamron lenses. Good to know.




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May 13, 2022 14:03:43   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
JohnR wrote:
Just curious - are there 2nds in the photographic world? Maybe not grey market but cameras/lenses which do not meet the manufacturers stringent quality standards and are sold off cheaply.
I ask as I'm looking to buy a Tamron lens here in Australia and find 5 out of 6 retailers price is A$1200+ with the 6th selling supposedly the same lens at more than 20% discount - A$850. The retailer insists its genuine Australian stock with full warranty and offers 14 day return if not satisfied. As a retiree that saving is very attractive but I'm concerned I may be buying a substandard product. I don't want to have to try out their 14 day return policy if I do get a poorer quality lens.
Does anyone know if this is a possibility - substandard goods being sold off cheaply?
Just curious - are there 2nds in the photographic ... (show quote)


Manufacturers do not sell sub standard equipment. They will ruin it through the line to be fixed and sold as refurbished. This may be what you are seeing. They should advertise it as refurbished. If not, run.

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May 14, 2022 11:23:28   #
ggenova64
 
JohnR wrote:
Just curious - are there 2nds in the photographic world? Maybe not grey market but cameras/lenses which do not meet the manufacturers stringent quality standards and are sold off cheaply.
I ask as I'm looking to buy a Tamron lens here in Australia and find 5 out of 6 retailers price is A$1200+ with the 6th selling supposedly the same lens at more than 20% discount - A$850. The retailer insists its genuine Australian stock with full warranty and offers 14 day return if not satisfied. As a retiree that saving is very attractive but I'm concerned I may be buying a substandard product. I don't want to have to try out their 14 day return policy if I do get a poorer quality lens.
Does anyone know if this is a possibility - substandard goods being sold off cheaply?
Just curious - are there 2nds in the photographic ... (show quote)


Ask the seller for a Photograph of the lenses serial no. and than check with Tamron US if it’s genuine.

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May 14, 2022 11:59:27   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
ggenova64 wrote:
Ask the seller for a Photograph of the lenses serial no. and than check with Tamron US if it’s genuine.


Which would be a surprise because he’s in Australia.

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May 14, 2022 12:04:46   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
Australia may be different, but I am in the same boat as you...retiree, needing to be careful with my expenditures. I have bought two Nikon refurbished cameras from a reputable U.S. dealer.
Canon refurbished equipment has a full warranty? WOW!
Iirc, Nikon's refurbished warrranty is for like 60 days. However, I have never had a problem with my refurbished Nikons. (yet!)
Some dealers in used equipment give 180 day to 1 year warranties.

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