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May 14, 2022 08:41:15   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Stephan G wrote:
Which "history"?

There are too many examples of rewritten History that are used to support "modern views" on ALL sides. The actual sad part, research is dissuaded.



Shall we eliminate the "bad history" so all future generations know only good history,
until something bad happens.......
We must learn about both the good and the bad so we can identify (delineate) the difference.
If we eliminate the bad, which is not possible, there will be nothing to compare.

There is no utopia, people themselves will see to that.

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May 14, 2022 08:46:56   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Jklovell wrote:
I’m feeling a little deflated at the moment and would like some input. I’ve been lucky enough to be asked to produce 17 images, printed, matted, glazed and framed for my hospital. Among the first batch is a black and white image 24” x 36” of the local decommissioned courthouse. In front of the building is a statue of a Confederate Soldier. I was told a few hours after delivering them that they had to “put it away” due to the soldier. First of all, I didn’t pick the images. They were all chosen by the administration from among my portfolio. They are suggesting I replace the print with something else. I don’t want to. I like the image. It took a lot of work and it’s damn near perfect. I’m sorry that they won’t be displaying it, but, to remove it would harm the print, the backboard, and the matting. Sure, the frame would be fine, but it is a finished piece. A fine finished piece of art. What would you (anyone) do?
I’m feeling a little deflated at the moment and wo... (show quote)


This is wokeness at its worst. However you have to decide how to react. If your willing to make the sacrifice then withdraw your work.

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May 14, 2022 08:57:24   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
We each have our own sorted principles. Sometimes its difficult finding where to draw the line in the sand. But do we have the guts to stand up to that line. Are we cognitively impaired can we grasp and comprehend and stand up to that line. Or do we just go where the wind blows us?

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May 14, 2022 09:03:00   #
Bubbee Loc: Aventura, Florida
 
That statue is a symbol which represents a terrible injustice. The sight of it is hurtful to many.

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May 14, 2022 09:05:22   #
Stephan G
 
Jklovell wrote:
I’m feeling a little deflated at the moment and would like some input. I’ve been lucky enough to be asked to produce 17 images, printed, matted, glazed and framed for my hospital. Among the first batch is a black and white image 24” x 36” of the local decommissioned courthouse. In front of the building is a statue of a Confederate Soldier. I was told a few hours after delivering them that they had to “put it away” due to the soldier. First of all, I didn’t pick the images. They were all chosen by the administration from among my portfolio. They are suggesting I replace the print with something else. I don’t want to. I like the image. It took a lot of work and it’s damn near perfect. I’m sorry that they won’t be displaying it, but, to remove it would harm the print, the backboard, and the matting. Sure, the frame would be fine, but it is a finished piece. A fine finished piece of art. What would you (anyone) do?
I’m feeling a little deflated at the moment and wo... (show quote)


"I didn't pick the images" is correct. You submitted your work for the final approval by a committee. You never had the option of choice. The committee, even if it is of one, had the final decision as to which photo would be selected. At least you were given an option of providing something with different subject(s) to add to the selection process.

I am trying to understand the need to "harm" the print. I will admit that most of my submissions would be self standing. In other words, hang it up and take it down after the period of exhibition is over. Like it or not, we make submission subject to the "whims" of the selection group. Until the ownership of said photo is made clear, the photographer still retains the ownership. So I would say that you may have unintentionally surrendered your rights to the print you turned over to them.

Bottom line, it is their space. And obviously, it was not open for editorial content. At least count it as recognition, of sorts. No need to be deflated.



PS., Suggest to the group that they should request photographs for selection. Once selected, then request the mounting to be made on their dime. Hopefully you will make it clear in the future that what you are offering is your talent in photography, not a donation.

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May 14, 2022 09:05:33   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Real Nikon Lover wrote:
We each have our own sorted principles. Sometimes its difficult finding where to draw the line in the sand. But do we have the guts to stand up to that line. Are we cognitively impaired can we grasp and comprehend and stand up to that line. Or do we just go where the wind blows us?

And everyone's line in the sand is in a different location.

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May 14, 2022 09:07:46   #
Stephan G
 
Longshadow wrote:
And everyone's line in the sand is in a different location.


That's why I carry my own bucket of sand.

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May 14, 2022 09:08:33   #
Dan Ausec
 
Longshadow wrote:
Ask them to pick a replacement image and hang the one they feel is politically incorrect in your house.

(I won't say what I feel........ )



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May 14, 2022 09:09:43   #
Stephan G
 
Longshadow wrote:


Shall we eliminate the "bad history" so all future generations know only good history,
until something bad happens.......
We must learn about both the good and the bad so we can identify (delineate) the difference.
If we eliminate the bad, which is not possible, there will be nothing to compare.

There is no utopia, people themselves will see to that.
img src="https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/images/s... (show quote)


And there are those who would insist on the most expensive blinders on the market.

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May 14, 2022 09:10:24   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Stephan G wrote:
And there are those who would insist on the most expensive blinders on the market.


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May 14, 2022 09:10:43   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Stephan G wrote:
That's why I carry my own bucket of sand.


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May 14, 2022 09:12:41   #
Stephan G
 
foathog wrote:
So was Benedict Arnold.


Benedict died being seen as a hero. In England.

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May 14, 2022 09:13:26   #
George Limle
 
You can’t erase History!

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May 14, 2022 09:13:28   #
jcboy3
 
Bubbee wrote:
That statue is a symbol which represents a terrible injustice. The sight of it is hurtful to many.


Exactly.

In addition, if the person that was the model for that statue went on to do good things, then it would be appropriate to have a state of that person that represents the good things that person went on to do. Being a Confederate soldier was not one of those good things, and it is inappropriate to celebrate the bad deeds of a good person.

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May 14, 2022 09:17:07   #
ELNikkor
 
Chalk it up to experience and cheerfully move on...

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