Quiet Airports
Dec 10, 2021 16:32:48 #
wsn't SR-71 stationed out of Moffitt? only one thing that made better than speed & that wuz noise...
Dec 10, 2021 16:58:02 #
No spy planes while I was stationed there - NASA had one for weather studies and took a reporter from the San Jose Mercury News for a ride in it - quite a write up in the paper...
Dec 10, 2021 17:06:40 #
Dec 10, 2021 18:46:24 #
When I was in CAP, our vice-commander was in one of the planes that flew over the Mighty MO at the end of the war.
Dec 10, 2021 20:17:53 #
Hey Jerry,
I used to live on the other side of the island from you, at Broad Channel, Queens... Every saturday morning about 0745 I would be awakened by the Concord, which was loud landing!!! Then about 0830 it would take off, which was deafening and it shook the whole house as it flew over the top of us!!! Now, to this day I have never heard a jet make that much noise taking of and landing!!!
I used to live on the other side of the island from you, at Broad Channel, Queens... Every saturday morning about 0745 I would be awakened by the Concord, which was loud landing!!! Then about 0830 it would take off, which was deafening and it shook the whole house as it flew over the top of us!!! Now, to this day I have never heard a jet make that much noise taking of and landing!!!
Dec 10, 2021 20:39:20 #
I was at Oshkosh one of the years it made an appearance there. I couldn't afford a ride at the time, but I remember everything came to a halt when it took off or landed - you couldn't hear yourself think. I think they were selling rides for like $400/pop. You took off, flew into Canada, got a glass of champagne and came back. I don't know if they ever went supersonic or not, but it would have been a neat ride anyways. The only thing about the same price I've done is a B-17. Hard to imagine mere kids doing what they did and going through hell time after time. I sure wasn't doing anything heroic at 18. Pearl Harbor happened about 22 years before I was born.
Dec 10, 2021 21:06:15 #
Reuss Griffiths
Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
About 20 years ago, my sister-in-law lived off the end of a runway at Seatac airport between Seattle and Tacoma. The airport wanted to extend the runway so more planes could land and in order to get permission to build the runway extension, they sound-proofed all the houses off the end of the runway. The sound proofed area was about a mile wide and four miles long. Who paid for all of this ($10K-$2Ok/house) The airport paid 20% of the tax and passed it on as a landing fee to all the planes that landed there. The other 80% was paid by Uncle Sam (translation: you and me).
Ever wonder about sound walls next to freeways. Same story. Politicians love them. They get to spread the local money around their "favorite contractors" and Uncle Sam picks (you and me) up the tab.
Ever wonder about sound walls next to freeways. Same story. Politicians love them. They get to spread the local money around their "favorite contractors" and Uncle Sam picks (you and me) up the tab.
Dec 11, 2021 06:46:17 #
Busbum wrote:
Hey Jerry,
I used to live on the other side of the island from you, at Broad Channel, Queens... Every saturday morning about 0745 I would be awakened by the Concord, which was loud landing!!! Then about 0830 it would take off, which was deafening and it shook the whole house as it flew over the top of us!!! Now, to this day I have never heard a jet make that much noise taking of and landing!!!
I used to live on the other side of the island from you, at Broad Channel, Queens... Every saturday morning about 0745 I would be awakened by the Concord, which was loud landing!!! Then about 0830 it would take off, which was deafening and it shook the whole house as it flew over the top of us!!! Now, to this day I have never heard a jet make that much noise taking of and landing!!!
hope this isn't a dup, the internet died on me. .anyway didja know John Christian, my sons godfather, usta live broad channel, Joanie still does, didja work fer Green Line??
Concord went over beach @ Sailor Haven Fire Island, stopped conversation on the beach... you hadda look way ahead of the noise to spot him
Dec 11, 2021 06:53:54 #
planepics wrote:
I was at Oshkosh one of the years it made an appea... (show quote)
of you mean the concord, the sonic boom, along with the cost and the accident put 'em out of business.. one of the guys from work went, the cost was about $4k to the UK from JFK. could not fly over land because of the boom.
Dec 11, 2021 11:29:19 #
K2edm,
Sorry, no I did not know him… I worked in Manhattan, took the “A” to Long Island City, then the ferry across the East River, then the ferry bus to 41st St…
Sorry, no I did not know him… I worked in Manhattan, took the “A” to Long Island City, then the ferry across the East River, then the ferry bus to 41st St…
k2edm wrote:
hope this isn't a dup, the internet died on me. .anyway didja know John Christian, my sons godfather, usta live broad channel, Joanie still does, didja work fer Green Line??
Concord went over beach @ Sailor Haven Fire Island, stopped conversation on the beach... you hadda look way ahead of the noise to spot him
Concord went over beach @ Sailor Haven Fire Island, stopped conversation on the beach... you hadda look way ahead of the noise to spot him
Dec 11, 2021 11:30:33 #
k2edm wrote:
of you mean the concord, the sonic boom, along with the cost and the accident put 'em out of business.. one of the guys from work went, the cost was about $4k to the UK from JFK. could not fly over land because of the boom.
It did them in but unless I'm mistaken it was debris on the runway that caused the accident, nothing at all to do with the Concorde or its operation. Not really fair what happened.
Dec 11, 2021 11:46:34 #
LDB415 wrote:
It did them in but unless I'm mistaken it was debris on the runway that caused the accident, nothing at all to do with the Concorde or its operation. Not really fair what happened.
yeh, debrie on the runway, they discovered its source also but evenutally the hugh cost / loss put them out of business..
Dec 11, 2021 14:04:20 #
Yours is not the only place this issue arises. I live in Lancaster County Pennsylvania, the so called Garden Spot of the world. People buy and build houses in rural areas and then complain about or try to limit smells that come from farms. A group is now trying to stop a farmer from building a large building to raise ducks. He says it is necessary to keep his operation viable.
Dec 11, 2021 17:08:34 #
[quote=ELNikkor]
Shudda been there when a C-5A landed at Moffat, back in the '90's. Flew right over my house in Cupertino and it looked like it was travelling at 35MPH. I loved playing Golf at Sunnyvale Muni, the sound buffer for Moffett. We saw the underside details of many P-3 Orion's flying to and from Northern California Pacific ASW missions.
Because of my many East Coast trips and late return flights, I had to switch to SFO as my base because I was too frequently closed out of SJC by the Curfew. Returning home to the airport where my car is parked was my minimal convenience requirement.
C
Shellback wrote:
When I was stationed at Moffett Field in Mountain View CA (1980 - 1986), new housing developments in San Jose were being built
I lived near Moffett Field in '66 (Palo Alto, near the Bayshore Expwy). We loved to see the planes take off and always heard them, night and day, but it never bothered us.
I lived near Moffett Field in '66 (Palo Alto, near the Bayshore Expwy). We loved to see the planes take off and always heard them, night and day, but it never bothered us.
Shudda been there when a C-5A landed at Moffat, back in the '90's. Flew right over my house in Cupertino and it looked like it was travelling at 35MPH. I loved playing Golf at Sunnyvale Muni, the sound buffer for Moffett. We saw the underside details of many P-3 Orion's flying to and from Northern California Pacific ASW missions.
Because of my many East Coast trips and late return flights, I had to switch to SFO as my base because I was too frequently closed out of SJC by the Curfew. Returning home to the airport where my car is parked was my minimal convenience requirement.
C
Dec 11, 2021 17:22:08 #
The rise in noise complaints is partly because of a huge increase in the number of flights and size of jets in the past few decades.
At least for my fiends who live near Burbank airport.
At least for my fiends who live near Burbank airport.
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