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Dec 10, 2021 08:24:32   #
Fotoserj Loc: St calixte Qc Ca
 
If I was a juge having to hear a case involving airport and airplane,I would ask all but one question to the plaintiffs , you bought this property and alll of sudden there is this airport around the corner and you didn’t know about it?case dismiss. In to location around montreal millenium bought houses near a race track and are now asking the court to shot them down because of noise and some tree hugger judge is going to give it to them, these two tract have been around way before those brainless jerk were born, one of my fishing buddy owns a farm, they built house right next to his fence and one spring day has à was spreading cow manure a woman ran in is way forcing to stop and started to scream that had no right todo that near her property he stayed in his tractor and call the police and lay complaint for trespassing at that point she was aside is équipement so he started forwards and crank up the pump as he was going by , she got drenched

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Dec 10, 2021 08:39:17   #
ddgm Loc: Hamilton, Ontario & Fort Myers, FL
 
I live less than 1/2 mile from Mount Hope Airport, it actually has the name of a politician i don't care to share. It is also the home of the Warbirds museum which has 1 of only 2 operation Lancaster Bombers which is powered by 4 Rolls Royce Merlin engines. Quite noisy but I love to hear it. The airport started as a WWII training facility so has been there quite some time. It is heavily used as a mostly cargo facility but there are some passenger flights. UPS just built a giant warehouse there so expect more flights. There is adjacent, like right beside, farm land that developers want to build thousands of homes on. Can't wait until the people living in these homes complain of the noise. I find that I am not bothered by it, could be I have grown accustomed to it or the fact that I wear 2 hearing aids. My wife has excellent hearing ability and she never complains about it. Kinda like moving next door to a farm and complaining about the smell. That's my rant for today.

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Dec 10, 2021 08:45:39   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I watch a lot of airplane videos on YouTube, and one thing that keeps coming up is noise abatement. Because of complaints by neighbors, planes have to fly less safely - using less power, taking a different route, or making sharp turns. There have been crashes because people near the airport don't like the noise. Several airports have "quiet times" when no planes can land or take off.

I'd like to know how the real estate agents managed to hide the fact that the houses were near an airport. I know that some airports started out small and got very large, but still. You buy a house near an airport, you expect to hear planes. Reduced noise isn't worth killing people.

I used to live on Long Island, not far from JFK and LaGuardia. Planes flew over all the time. There were also cars, trucks, and motorcycles. No big deal. Now that I'm in the Catskills, I hear and see military planes and helicopters flying low. Again, no big deal.
I watch a lot of airplane videos on YouTube, and o... (show quote)


Posting an appropriate reply would go political so we'll just have to go with whatever else is posted. It is wrong to mandate noise abatement when people chose on their own to build new houses and move near an airport.

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Dec 10, 2021 09:06:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
planepics wrote:
I disagree with that assessment. I know some airports vary their landing fees depending on the weight or type of aircraft (perhaps for funding to maintain/repair a runway), but I'm unaware of any that assess penalties for loud planes. There ARE airports that have restrictions on when jets can use the runway (say after 10PM, for example) and some airports don't allow T/L between late night and early morning. Some older jets are banned from certain airports because their engines don't comply with noise requirements. At an airport I used to work at, one of the planes used for charter flights was one of the first Gulfstream business jets - 19-passenger and could be rented (pilot, flight attendant and food, included), for a mere $5k/hr. If it hasn't been re-engined or scrapped by now it would probably have been unable to use some airports for long because it was so loud and polluting. Pilots use reference manuals called (Airport Facility Directories) that would describe any noise abatement procedures, such as using a non-standard traffic pattern so they remain over an industrial area.
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That noise statement came from an airplane channel I watch regularly, and he gave specific amounts for particular planes. I don't know what channel it was because I watch so many.

Google thought I might have meant "Airpods," so they included them in the search. You might be able to find the video about charging for noise below.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=airport+charges+for+noise

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Dec 10, 2021 10:01:20   #
aphelps Loc: Central Ohio
 
whfowle wrote:
It never made sense to me why anyone would buy a house near an airport if they didn't like the inevitable noise. Maybe because of my background in the Air Force, I never paid much attention to the noise. I was often within a mile or so of the test cells where engine runups were conducted during the night. The occasional takeoffs and landings were nothing compared to high powered fighter jet engines in full AB all night long.


When I was in grad school in NH we lived quite close to what was then Pease AFBase. They had B-52s and KC-135 tankers there. On nights when they did a scramble it was all of those planes taking off one after another. It shook the house for one hour in the middle of the night. That was beyond loud!

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Dec 10, 2021 11:06:36   #
lburriss
 
When I was assigned to Dyess AFB, Abilene, Texas, I was involved with something called AICUZ (pronounced A-CUZ), Air Installation Compatible Use Zone. We had B-52s, KC-135s and C-130s. As Abilene began to creep closer and closer to the base we sure didn’t want the city to build, for example, a school off the end of one of the runways, or within so many lateral feet of departures and landings. We developed a set of contour maps, which were strictly advisory, showing noise levels and accident potentials. The idea was to work with the city to try to limit exposure through various kinds of zoning in the affected areas.

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Dec 10, 2021 11:37:56   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
I had lived in La Jolla (San Diego area), and the air-force base nearby was a regular source of considerable noise but also entertainment. It could be deafening, but also always worth stepping out to see what great machine was making all that racket.

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Dec 10, 2021 11:42:05   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
I had lived in La Jolla (San Diego area), and the air-force base nearby was a regular source of considerable noise but also entertainment. It could be deafening, but also always worth stepping out to see what great machine was making all that racket.


My 95-year-old aunt lives (or until recently lived) in La Jolla. She came out with a cousin a few weeks ago for my sister's wedding. we had a regular reunion...probably 10 or 12 different states represented. Man, did my blood sugar stink that whole week and a half!! I haven't been to CA in decades :(

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Dec 10, 2021 12:02:46   #
marine73 Loc: Modesto California
 
In SFO we can not do high power engine runs between 11 pm and 5 am and that is providing that the high power pad is available. These high power runs are on wing and are sometimes necessary because of maintenance that was performed. We do have an engine shop for rebuilding the v2500 and the P&W series engines along with a test cell for testing after rebuilding. I do not know of any noise restriction for using the test cell for testing the engines.

It always gets me that an airport can be in the middle of nowhere and developers want to build right up to there fence line and then people complain about the noise.

Airplane noise equals the sound of freedom and travel.

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Dec 10, 2021 12:12:06   #
marine73 Loc: Modesto California
 
A few years after I started working for my company in 1988 my family and I took an early morning flight to SNA (John Wayne airport) in southern CA. We arrived early and had to circle for about an hour due to noise restrictions. If I remember correctly landings and takeoff are not allowed before 7 AM (will have to check the airport facility directory for any changes) . The passenger load was seven passengers plus the crew. We all got first class seats which is always nice when flying standby, even though it was a short trip. The aircraft was a 757 and was being repositioned to SNA.

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Dec 10, 2021 13:40:16   #
lbrande
 
I fly out of KTOA, Torrance airport frequently. They have sound sensors that check the dB level of you plane on TO and Landing. If you exceed the level, you are ticketed. When I fly my friends Beechcraft, the AOA of the plane is very steep to leave the noise abatement issue behind. It always makes me nervous.
KCNO, Chino Airport, doesn't have a noise abatement program.
I think that the persons who forced the closure of KSMO are pinheads as the airport has been there forever, and THEY feel their comfort is more important than the employment of the persons there.

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Dec 10, 2021 13:57:10   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
I live under the final approach path when the planes are coming in on the north/south runway. I only see and hear them when they're landing into a north wind so if we've been suffering a rainy, hot, humid southern air mass and I suddenly start to hear planes, I know the winds have shifted to the north and we'll soon be enjoying cool, dry northern air. A welcome sound in that case.

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Dec 10, 2021 14:38:28   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
I had lived in La Jolla (San Diego area), and the air-force base nearby was a regular source of considerable noise but also entertainment. It could be deafening, but also always worth stepping out to see what great machine was making all that racket.


To me the sounds of military aircraft represents the sound of freedom!

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Dec 10, 2021 15:33:59   #
skylinefirepest Loc: Southern Pines, N.C.
 
How true. I've watched many services from Arlington and there's always a couple of planes going overhead.

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Dec 10, 2021 16:21:08   #
k2edm Loc: FN32AD
 
yeh, I grew up in VS before moving to Islip then Saugerties. when in Islip my wife bought a couch from some guy who had just sold his house somewhere down along Peninuslar blvd in far rockaway (I guess) anyway, while we were humping the couch on the truck, a plane went over, landing Idewild,........ you could see people in the windows! I made some remark about the #$%^ noise and I guy watching us said "thanks,I just bought this place".. he wasn't happy... I also remember CHAIN DRIVEN Colineal sand and gravel trucks going thru VS carrying "fill" from Northport to Idlewild thru S Franklin Ave in Valley Stream. JFK was ALL swamp...for probably months the trucks went by, seemed like every ten minutes...

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