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Nov 27, 2021 20:37:23   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
I haven't bought a new camera since 2013 and I haven't bought a new lens since about 2015 or so. I guess that would put me in group 2. I would love to have better equipment, especially lenses but I find my old Canon 60D still produces some great photos. It's mostly about light and composition. If you don't understand that no amount of high end equipment is going to help.

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Nov 27, 2021 21:57:05   #
FotoHog Loc: on Cloud 9
 
rmalarz wrote:
I recently watched an interview with a professional photographer. Unfortunately, I didn't note who it was but my money would be placed on Daniel Milnor. The statement was made that beginners and beginning amateurs tend to focus on/discuss equipment. Advanced amateurs and professionals tend to focus on concepts/techniques. So, as the question was posed in the title, in which group are you?
--Bob

Both, depending on the topic under discussion at a given moment.

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Nov 27, 2021 22:29:39   #
mundy-F2 Loc: Chicago suburban area
 
rmalarz wrote:
I recently watched an interview with a professional photographer. Unfortunately, I didn't note who it was but my money would be placed on Daniel Milnor. The statement was made that beginners and beginning amateurs tend to focus on/discuss equipment. Advanced amateurs and professionals tend to focus on concepts/techniques. So, as the question was posed in the title, in which group are you?
--Bob


I just purchased my 1st camera in 40 years, a Nikon Z6ii with a Z 35mm f/1.8 S lens. The lens was delivered, but the body is backordered from B&H. Guess I am in the technical group, interested in technique.
Mundy

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Nov 27, 2021 22:30:54   #
mundy-F2 Loc: Chicago suburban area
 
10MPlayer wrote:
I haven't bought a new camera since 2013 and I haven't bought a new lens since about 2015 or so. I guess that would put me in group 2. I would love to have better equipment, especially lenses but I find my old Canon 60D still produces some great photos. It's mostly about light and composition. If you don't understand that no amount of high end equipment is going to help.


I am with you.
Mundy

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Nov 27, 2021 22:37:32   #
mundy-F2 Loc: Chicago suburban area
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
One of my favorite sayings is: :Beware of an old person who owns only one gun, chances are he knows how to use it". Same applies to someone who owns only one camera.


Barney F. and I each have only one bullet.
Mundy

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Nov 27, 2021 22:40:57   #
Najataagihe
 
What caliber?

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Nov 27, 2021 22:47:45   #
mundy-F2 Loc: Chicago suburban area
 
Najataagihe wrote:
What caliber?


Mine is 380
Mundy

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Nov 27, 2021 23:01:45   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
An amateur will tend to believe hard work is what brings good luck and success. Professional photographers know the secret is a full-frame camera.


I'm more talented than that. I can shoot 200 shots a day with a full frame camera and all of them would be good enough to go in the trash!

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Nov 28, 2021 00:36:18   #
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sippyjug104 wrote:
Group three, I now have my camera waiting and ready for Bigfoot or an alien from space to go with my picture of Elvis coming out of the Walmart in Memphis last year.😜

The Elvis I can readily believe. Memphis must have several dozen.

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Nov 28, 2021 01:45:45   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
The first group is composed of beginners concerned about equipment while the second group is more cerebral concerned more about the aesthetic intellectual origins of an image. Don't you suppose that when Ansel Adams and Edward Weston got together, they very likely had conversations about how various different pieces of equipment, cameras, enlargers, etc worked for them. I sure it all wasn't like "My Dinner with Andre". I know from reading his autobiography that Adams had extensive equipment related conversations with Edwin Land. Now lets imagine two absolute neophytes having a conversation about photography. Why do we assume that they will only talk about gear and not about the creative search for an image. I have started reading a book by furniture maker Gary Rogowski titled Handmade: Creative Focus in the Age of Distraction. I expect that Rogowski will have lessons about being a better builder that I will be able to use to become a better photographer, if I only apply them. I see no reason that the rankest beginners could not be invested in any and all the various aspects of photography that the wise sages in the second group commune about with each other.

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Nov 28, 2021 06:19:33   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Horseart wrote:
I'm more talented than that. I can shoot 200 shots a day with a full frame camera and all of them would be good enough to go in the trash!


The master has deleted more images than the beginner has ever taken.

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Nov 28, 2021 08:40:57   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
rmalarz wrote:
I recently watched an interview with a professional photographer. Unfortunately, I didn't note who it was but my money would be placed on Daniel Milnor. The statement was made that beginners and beginning amateurs tend to focus on/discuss equipment. Advanced amateurs and professionals tend to focus on concepts/techniques. So, as the question was posed in the title, in which group are you?
--Bob


I'm not a "groupie."

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Nov 28, 2021 08:46:13   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
rmalarz wrote:
I recently watched an interview with a professional photographer. Unfortunately, I didn't note who it was but my money would be placed on Daniel Milnor. The statement was made that beginners and beginning amateurs tend to focus on/discuss equipment. Advanced amateurs and professionals tend to focus on concepts/techniques. So, as the question was posed in the title, in which group are you?
--Bob


It's not and either or both. I shot for composition! That said, I also know that some cameras will under perform so to be good one must do both albeit composition being the driving force.

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Nov 28, 2021 08:53:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The master has deleted more images than the beginner has ever taken.


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Nov 28, 2021 09:02:42   #
achesley Loc: SW Louisiana
 
LOL with 6 cameras and the most used is a pair of Canon G16's Don't think I'm very interested in what other's do photo or equipment wise.

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