Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
For Your Consideration
The Master In You: September topic is "After Dark"
Page <prev 2 of 5 next> last>>
Sep 5, 2021 12:10:23   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
pmorin wrote:
From the Desert to the Sea

My contribution is a themed set taken at different locations at different times of year, Fall and Winter. The first was taken just a few minutes before sunrise in Palm Springs on the way to the golf course. The second was taken at Ola' Mexican Grill in Huntington Beach just a few minutes after sunset.


The most vivid colors seem to happen just after sunset or just before sunrise. Lovely pair.

Reply
Sep 5, 2021 12:15:01   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
fergmark wrote:
A little contribution to the After Dark topic this month. The first is the only recent photo in this batch. The rest go back fifteen to twenty years. Starting with the first, I had gone down to the beach early, and only because of the fog. The second two were taken after midnight while on Monhegan Island. The cloud cover made it very dark, and were both around twenty second exposures. I like the grainy quality that this very early sensor produced.
The next three are fire as you can see. A more complicated endeavor than I would have imagined. The bigger the fire, the more light, and lower the iso can go, but the hotter the fire, the faster it moves, requiring a faster shutter speed. If you didn't have a high enough shutter speed it's just a blur, and I wanted well defined flames. Hard to get a workable balance, and the only place where I could produce these large fires was a friends place in Vermont. The last two tripod mounted, seeing what I could come up with moving the camera around.
A little contribution to the After Dark topic this... (show quote)


Interesting, widely varied set. I’m intrigued with your fire series, something I’ve never even thought of. Fascinating abstracts.

Love your Monhegan after dark images. I’ve never tried to shoot the Sheridan after dark, but it makes a wonderfully moody images. I did try some there and once I get back home I may retrieve one from the archives to post. I’ve some of the harbor, one of the lighthouse, and some taken of the boats going out before sunrise on Trap Day. None of them are any good. I have much more study to do before I can figure this kind of photography out.

Reply
Sep 6, 2021 07:18:40   #
jburlinson Loc: Austin, TX
 
Lurking in the shrubbery.


(Download)

Reply
 
 
Sep 6, 2021 08:21:06   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
minniev wrote:
Interesting, widely varied set. I’m intrigued with your fire series, something I’ve never even thought of. Fascinating abstracts.

Love your Monhegan after dark images. I’ve never tried to shoot the Sheridan after dark, but it makes a wonderfully moody images. I did try some there and once I get back home I may retrieve one from the archives to post. I’ve some of the harbor, one of the lighthouse, and some taken of the boats going out before sunrise on Trap Day. None of them are any good. I have much more study to do before I can figure this kind of photography out.
Interesting, widely varied set. I’m intrigued with... (show quote)


I still feel like a fish out of water both working from a tripod and trying to manage settings in the dark. Add to that farsightedness and Its an ordeal. It is for the most part a hit and miss kind of thing for me. I very seldom shoot at night any more. In Vermont a couple years ago the night sky with the milky way was so amazing I set up and took some pictures, but the difficulties were really of putting, and as I realized, kind of pointless. Looking up and being there to experience the sky like that, from one of those ideal dark zones, was the point.

Reply
Sep 6, 2021 08:51:01   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
ebrunner wrote:
After Dark

Our topic for this month will be night time photography. Let’s define it as anything shot while the sun is not above the horizon. This would include the blue hour in the evening after the sun drops below the horizon and also the blue hour before the sun emerges from below the horizon in the morning.

Long exposures that show light streaks from passing cars are a good example for this challenge. You might also think about landscapes, especially in the morning when there is a glow on the horizon; but the sun is not yet above the horizon. Clouds will also feature in any landscape photos because they show color before the sun rises and they hold color after the sun sets.

You can chose photos from your archives; but it is hoped that this challenge might also inspire you to go out and shoot during September with the topic in mind. Let us know if this is something you do regularly and what challenges the topic might have presented. Remember that this is not a photo competition; but instead an opportunity to discuss the topic. I’ll offer an example to get us started; but this is only a starting point. This will probably be a long thread. Don’t let that discourage you. It is, after all, a big topic. Have fun.
Erich


The posted photos. I'm going to post three photos to get the topic started. I took my own advice and shot all of these this evening. There was no color because the sky was completely overcast. I checked sunset time and all were shot after sunset. The liquor store was shot without a tripod. I used high ISO and relatively fast shutter with wide open aperture. For the long exposure shot of the boat, I totally forgot to take into account that the waves would move the boat. (Parked cars remain sharp, parked boats not so much). I'll post others throughout the month; but these might serve as an example of the type of photos you can get without any sun.
Have fun shooting
After Dark br br Our topic for this month will be... (show quote)


It has been an observation of mine that night shots often make very nice b/w conversions. Have you noticed that?

Reply
Sep 7, 2021 05:30:48   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
fergmark wrote:
A little contribution to the After Dark topic this month. The first is the only recent photo in this batch. The rest go back fifteen to twenty years. Starting with the first, I had gone down to the beach early, and only because of the fog. The second two were taken after midnight while on Monhegan Island. The cloud cover made it very dark, and were both around twenty second exposures. I like the grainy quality that this very early sensor produced.
The next three are fire as you can see. A more complicated endeavor than I would have imagined. The bigger the fire, the more light, and lower the iso can go, but the hotter the fire, the faster it moves, requiring a faster shutter speed. If you didn't have a high enough shutter speed it's just a blur, and I wanted well defined flames. Hard to get a workable balance, and the only place where I could produce these large fires was a friends place in Vermont. The last two tripod mounted, seeing what I could come up with moving the camera around.
A little contribution to the After Dark topic this... (show quote)


I prefer looking at the first two photos. I think they really came out nice. The others, however, are interesting because of what you are trying to do. The fire, especially, intrigued me because I've had a Hell of a time getting decent "campfire" shots when we are out camping. The motion blur shots are also a particular interest of mine. I recently took some vertical blur shots in the forest and am thinking of using them as a backbround or a texture in the fall when the leaves change. All good ideas, and things that keep us thinking outside the lines.
Erich

Reply
Sep 7, 2021 05:34:10   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
minniev wrote:
Challenging topic! Good for you for taking new photos for the project. Nice set, especially the one of the store with its array of lights. One of the benefits of our current technology is that it is possible to shoot after dark without a tripod. For some of us, that benefit comes at the great expense of high, noise inducing ISOs. Cameras with larger sensors hold up to the task better than those with small sensors. I’m one of those who uses a small sensor camera for a variety of reasons. And I’ve never tried night photography because of the noise involved.

I was at the country house when this topic posted, and decided I’d try a “star” photo. I am sure I don’t understand this process because I’ve seen star type photos taken with cameras like mine that are quite nice. I cannot say the same for my own effort here, so I’ll have to study more about settings. I do think a tripod would have helped but didn’t have it with me so here’s the outcome. A tripod would not have made the setting (yard and forest and field) more interesting, but I might have got more interesting sky features and would have been able to use a longer exposure. Clearly I have a lot to learn about settings and processing this type of image.

Thanks for encouraging us to try something different. I may try some more before the month is out.
Challenging topic! Good for you for taking new pho... (show quote)


I'm glad to see you "give it a go". Even with a larger sensor, noise can become an issue. If I'm shooting in the dark, I like to keep the ISO low and use a tripod and the just use longer exposure times. I'll be interested to see any further attempts.
Erich

Reply
 
 
Sep 7, 2021 05:52:11   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
ebrunner wrote:
After Dark

Our topic for this month will be night time photography. Let’s define it as anything shot while the sun is not above the horizon. This would include the blue hour in the evening after the sun drops below the horizon and also the blue hour before the sun emerges from below the horizon in the morning.

Long exposures that show light streaks from passing cars are a good example for this challenge. You might also think about landscapes, especially in the morning when there is a glow on the horizon; but the sun is not yet above the horizon. Clouds will also feature in any landscape photos because they show color before the sun rises and they hold color after the sun sets.

You can chose photos from your archives; but it is hoped that this challenge might also inspire you to go out and shoot during September with the topic in mind. Let us know if this is something you do regularly and what challenges the topic might have presented. Remember that this is not a photo competition; but instead an opportunity to discuss the topic. I’ll offer an example to get us started; but this is only a starting point. This will probably be a long thread. Don’t let that discourage you. It is, after all, a big topic. Have fun.
Erich


The posted photos. I'm going to post three photos to get the topic started. I took my own advice and shot all of these this evening. There was no color because the sky was completely overcast. I checked sunset time and all were shot after sunset. The liquor store was shot without a tripod. I used high ISO and relatively fast shutter with wide open aperture. For the long exposure shot of the boat, I totally forgot to take into account that the waves would move the boat. (Parked cars remain sharp, parked boats not so much). I'll post others throughout the month; but these might serve as an example of the type of photos you can get without any sun.
Have fun shooting
After Dark br br Our topic for this month will be... (show quote)


I'm having more trouble with this topic than I thought I would. One problem is going out at night with my camera. That is not something I usually do. The other thing is finding compositions. Here I went out very early in the morning. (not unusual for me) on a rainy day. I used the shelter of a pagoda to take these rainy day photos. The first one is of the pagoda itself and a sailboat in the distance. I thought it might be interesting to see the lighted pagoda and the dark early morning in the background. I had to adjust the temperature to make it look more natural. The light was giving the photo a very unattractive brown/yellow cast. The second photo is also from the pagoda shooting in another direction toward a marina. Here I wanted to emphasize the starburst on the lights and the reflections shiny reflections cause by the light on rainy surfaces. Even though I used a 30 second exposure, there are some slight textures in the water because of the rain coming down pretty hard.
Erich


(Download)


(Download)

Reply
Sep 7, 2021 05:53:48   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
jburlinson wrote:
Lurking in the shrubbery.


I like this shot. It has a great abstract quality to it. Nicely done.
Erich

Reply
Sep 7, 2021 05:55:57   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
fergmark wrote:
It has been an observation of mine that night shots often make very nice b/w conversions. Have you noticed that?


I think you are right. In the series where I was shooting in the pagoda, I also took some black and white shots with Tri-X and an Olympus OM-2 I'm going to be processing that film today, I hope, and we will see how things come out. I'm pretty sure I took the marina shot with the Olympus. That will be interesting.
Erich

Reply
Sep 7, 2021 12:02:46   #
Craigdca Loc: California
 
Low light night time photography is the most challenging for me as my Canon T2i sensor creates a lot of pixel cleanup work. But the results are worth it sometimes and I’m more motivated to invest in a new camera to reduce the PP effort.

Here are a few I took at a family gathering in Malibu this last weekend.

Everyone photographed this beautiful sunset! And I didn’t have to do any pixel cleanup, either. The one thing I worked on when shooting was to focus on the foreground trees for sharp silhouettes, then waited for the seagulls to enter the focus plane.
Everyone photographed this beautiful sunset! And I...
(Download)

- I was enjoying some slightly long exposure captures of the firepit and then focused on the person for this one. I used the better flames from one of the first shots.
- I was enjoying some slightly long exposure captu...
(Download)

- Evening Star! Got out the tabletop tripod and first focused on the foreground trees. Then focused on the planet for this shot. Too much pixel cleanup but next time will combine shots for silhouette clarity.
- Evening Star! Got out the tabletop tripod and fi...
(Download)

Reply
 
 
Sep 7, 2021 20:14:34   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Craigdca wrote:
Low light night time photography is the most challenging for me as my Canon T2i sensor creates a lot of pixel cleanup work. But the results are worth it sometimes and I’m more motivated to invest in a new camera to reduce the PP effort.

Here are a few I took at a family gathering in Malibu this last weekend.


This is a good set of photos. You discuss in detail the challenges that you encountered and how you handled them. It was good to hear your description of each of these shots. I like the sunset a lot because you put those trees in the foreground. That gives us more to look at than just color. Very effective.
Erich

Reply
Sep 8, 2021 08:56:32   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
ebrunner wrote:
I'm having more trouble with this topic than I thought I would. One problem is going out at night with my camera. That is not something I usually do. The other thing is finding compositions. Here I went out very early in the morning. (not unusual for me) on a rainy day. I used the shelter of a pagoda to take these rainy day photos. The first one is of the pagoda itself and a sailboat in the distance. I thought it might be interesting to see the lighted pagoda and the dark early morning in the background. I had to adjust the temperature to make it look more natural. The light was giving the photo a very unattractive brown/yellow cast. The second photo is also from the pagoda shooting in another direction toward a marina. Here I wanted to emphasize the starburst on the lights and the reflections shiny reflections cause by the light on rainy surfaces. Even though I used a 30 second exposure, there are some slight textures in the water because of the rain coming down pretty hard.
Erich
I'm having more trouble with this topic than I tho... (show quote)


I couldn't agree more about the difficulty finding compositions. And these days that goes for all photography, let alone shooting in the dark. I woke very early this morning so decided I had plenty of time to go somewhere and set up. These were taken in a span of about twenty minutes, starting 40 minutes before sunrise. I started with 20 second exposures and ended with about 1/4 second exposures. The first shot I had just plunked down my tripod and took a "this is where I am" shot. Then tried out various compositions. My first exposures were a little too light and I corrected as I went along. So these are a few. I was glad to get out and take some shots specifically for the topic. As so often happens I forgot to save as sRGB. I did however spend a lot of time in processing trying to bring out how I remembered how my eye was seeing things.


(Download)


(Download)


(Download)


(Download)


(Download)


(Download)

Reply
Sep 8, 2021 09:38:38   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
ebrunner wrote:
I'm having more trouble with this topic than I thought I would. One problem is going out at night with my camera. That is not something I usually do. The other thing is finding compositions. Here I went out very early in the morning. (not unusual for me) on a rainy day. I used the shelter of a pagoda to take these rainy day photos. The first one is of the pagoda itself and a sailboat in the distance. I thought it might be interesting to see the lighted pagoda and the dark early morning in the background. I had to adjust the temperature to make it look more natural. The light was giving the photo a very unattractive brown/yellow cast. The second photo is also from the pagoda shooting in another direction toward a marina. Here I wanted to emphasize the starburst on the lights and the reflections shiny reflections cause by the light on rainy surfaces. Even though I used a 30 second exposure, there are some slight textures in the water because of the rain coming down pretty hard.
Erich
I'm having more trouble with this topic than I tho... (show quote)


I like the second shot for the lights and their reflections. The first is like a "this is where I am" shot. Nice to have such a place from where you can shoot while its raining. Still, only something a committed shooter would do.

Reply
Sep 8, 2021 11:46:44   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
After dark shots are definitely about atmosphere. The chances are the lighting will be subdued (i.e. not contrasty, which in turn usually means not dramatic) and the colouring will typically be soft and often with a limited pallet. If you want a shot which abounds in vividness (but not a sunrise or sunset), wait till proper daylight.

Getting something contemporary will be difficult for me because I have early starts and I'm usually getting ready for bed round about sundown. Getting up earlier than usual on a working day doesn't appeal to me but I may be able to catch something on the way to work.

This is a shot from my archives. If you want to enjoy some roamin' in the gloamin', what better place than the bonnie, bonnie banks of Loch Lomond (the songs say it so much better than I could ).
.


(Download)

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 5 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
For Your Consideration
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.