pithydoug wrote:
But still, $1,700 for auto?
...and that lens! ...and video! ...and amazing stabilization! ...and PSAM! ....and timelapse! ....and weather sealed! ....and lots more!
Don't overlook "computational photography". Film to digital was a huge leap. Now that pixels, sensors, lenses and the other digital camera parts are well down the road, what is next? It is the processing of the captured light. It is what has propelled phones to make big dents in the camera market. Sony is good at putting computational photography into their cameras. Their version of AUTO is very good.
There are photographers that get their joy from knobs, buttons, dials and menus even if their images are boring. There are also photographers that don't give a rip about what was used, and how it was set, to get an amazing printable image. My wife leans hard toward the latter. I have a granddaughter with thousands that follow her photography. She depends on her phone's AUTO mode. Her Nikon D3400 is typically safe in the bag on the shelf.
Try AUTO on whatever you shoot with. Just don't tell anybody that likes your work.
Similar Canon owner with bad hands and weak bones. Sold the Canon equipment and bought this terrific camera years ago. I luv it and whatever you ask it's on YouTube, setting it up to advanced
Similar Canon owner with bad hands and weak bones. Sold the Canon equipment and bought this terrific camera years ago. I luv it and whatever you ask it's on YouTube, setting it up to advanced techniques. But tell your wife to get beyond Auto, this camera will make her proud
I have a few thoughts about this camera. i bought the RX10 3 (with the 24 600 zoom lens.
Of all the camera's I have owned this camera (I am sure the 4 is even better) was the most amazing.
(I regret selling it to fund gear kit Fuji). I am sure and some here mentioned watching videos o youtube
with help. And the book if you prefer.
Some things I did with it. The lens is amazing. My son was a special guest at a seminar in FL college auditorium.
He said Dad don't wander around the theater auditorium. So I shot from front row seat. CU's presenters
the moderator at a podium the audience. Isolating speakers in discussion on stage couch. turned and picked
up audience reactions. The reviews were picky. Low light no problem. Sitting on deck in restuarant shooting
video and stills of a surfer machine with athletic guy showing off. Ground level shooting of my grandsons
playing soccer. Tough project. follow focus very good if not manual. I owned a lot of Sony camera's from the a7sII
to the a6300 and the small metal gem you can hold in the palm of your hand the RX100. Yes Sony literature is crap.
But their innovation like this camera series is just amazing. Enjoy it. I love the look of the video and stills on automatic. Good luck
pithydoug wrote:
But still, $1,700 for auto?
You paid more that that for your car that has Auto Transmission.....
bonjac
Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
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I just watched these, they were excellent! Thanks for the recommendations.
Jack
I have the Sony RX10M4, the best thing for learning to use this camera are U tube videos or some of the links the other hoggers are posting, great camera, but it is hard to learn all its bells and whistles. Good luck.
I was also a Canon user but changed to the Sony RX10M4 and am pleased with it but you would think that Sony could definitely do better with their menu. This is the biggest complaint that well trained photographers complain about. It isn't that it is different from Canon or Nikon menus, but sometime doesn't make as much sense. Keep using and you will find where you like to use the settings. Good luck
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
bonjac wrote:
I just watched these, they were excellent! Thanks for the recommendations.
Jack
Jack, being a Nikon user, the menu system was like learning a foreign language. I had to get into a Sony frame of mind, then it all clicked. (yes, a few puns, but appropriate), The videos helped me a lot. But honestly, I purchased the camera after demo-ing an RX10M3 for a day - and that was my first experience with anything serious from Sony. It is much more intimidating before you get into things. Then it all makes sense. I even use it as my camera for Zoom meetings. For me it is NOT a replacement for my D810 and 150-600 and all my other Nikon lenses.
Remember Sony is making all lenses for the Nikon and Canon cameras, but only Sony is selling the Zeiss lenses. These are the best lenses on the market today.
I’ve been using Sony cameras for several years, now and have found that while extensive, the menus are logically laid out. I currently have the A6300 and the RX100VII. They both have heavy menus, but both have extensive features and controls, especially the RX100VII. I purchased the online versions of Gary Friedman’s book on both cameras and found them to be very useful. Gary makes it easy to understand the camera and its menu. I like the online versions because I always have it with me, should I need to refer to it. I suspect the same can be said for the RX10IV. The one thing I did before getting out to use either camera was just sit in the recliner and play with it until I got comfortable with it. At the same time I opened up the Friedman manual and just referenced back and forth. In the end I found that the Sony menus are a bit undeserving of their bad reputations. Oh yeah, Sony’s manual is junk. What I like about Gary Friedman’s books is that he not only tells you what, but also tells you why, how and often, when. Each feature is carefully and clearly explained.
orchidalan wrote:
I was also a Canon user but changed to the Sony RX10M4 and am pleased with it but you would think that Sony could definitely do better with their menu. This is the biggest complaint that well trained photographers complain about. It isn't that it is different from Canon or Nikon menus, but sometime doesn't make as much sense. Keep using and you will find where you like to use the settings. Good luck
I have an RX10IV and an Olympus M1 MKII. I believe that when it comes to lousy menus the Olympus is easily the equal to the Sony. Both need a complete overhaul.
CHG_CANON wrote:
Sony manuals are a miserable joke. Just use the camera and ask questions for help. You'll figure it out.
Thanks for the encouragement...
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