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Aug 7, 2021 14:18:50   #
Ron 717 Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Worst thing about Topaz Labs are the continuous Updates, it almost seems that I am asked to update 2 to 3 times a month.


I personally have no issue with the way Topaz puts out their updates. I would much rather have an update every week if they had found a security flaw or a function that could cause the app to work slower and cause issues that would effect my work flow. But maybe that's just me.

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Aug 7, 2021 14:44:44   #
stan0301 Loc: Colorado
 
I am happy enough with updates - but Gigapixl puts the new version where God himself couldn't find it - but if He did it would be nicely inlarged

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Aug 7, 2021 15:16:26   #
AzYooper Loc: Sun Lakes AZ (Almost Phoenix)
 
I like improvements. Don't find it to be an inconvenience.

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Aug 7, 2021 17:56:05   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Worst thing about Topaz Labs are the continuous Updates, it almost seems that I am asked to update 2 to 3 times a month.


Oh, you mean like Microsoft ! ?

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Aug 7, 2021 19:42:19   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
DaveO wrote:
Free if you have an active "subscription."


I have never participated in a discussion with anyone from Topaz about a "subscription" until yesterday when I was told that my SharpenAI subscription was expiring. It was news to me. My only arrangement with Topaz until AI came along was that all updates were at no expense to me and I could install my downloads on as many computers as I chose to. Suddenly, all that changed when they saw an opportunity to incorporate what is being called Artificial Intelligence (AI) into their programs in response to the release of Photolemuer which doesn't fit the definition of AI as it existed when we first became aware of it 40 to 50 years ago, something I dabbled in the programming of in the early 1980s. I am a fan of frequent updates but not necessarily a fan of companies that shift the cost of their R&D to keep them competitive in the market from the company to the customers in conflict with the original agreement between the two although I do realize that often it becomes a matter of necessity. I will remain a fan of Topaz.

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Aug 7, 2021 21:38:49   #
SafetySam Loc: Colorado
 
I just received a update notice BUT since my year updates were up as of August 1st, they want a $49 fee for another year of updates.
$99 if you want to update all the Topaz products in the year or $49 for each you have.
Guess it’s back to a semi subscription with Topaz . .

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Aug 7, 2021 21:45:04   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
SafetySam wrote:
I just received a update notice BUT since my year updates were up as of August 1st, they want a $49 fee for another year of updates.
$99 if you want to update all the Topaz products in the year or $49 for each you have.
Guess it’s back to a semi subscription with Topaz . .


Sounds like we enjoyed equal treatment this time around except they offered me a discount price of $63 for the upcoming year's updates as opposed to the $99 they want from you, not exactly equal treatment, I'd say.

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Aug 7, 2021 21:53:58   #
SafetySam Loc: Colorado
 
Must be the zip code . . wonder the difference?

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Aug 7, 2021 22:31:05   #
Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
 
gessman wrote:
Yep, just yesterday. I'm a long time user, selectively, and by that I mean certain modules. I got Studio when released, likewise Studio2. I upgraded Denoise and Sharpen to AI when released and added GigapixelAI. If I haven't missed something, which is always possible, all my upgrade offers since then have been a paid upgrade which I have not done. Yesterday I got a message that my yearly subscription upgrade renewal for SharpenAI was due for $49 and I could get a yearly renewal of all the modules I use, which was referred to as "the photo bundle," comprised of SharpenAI, DenoiseAI, and GigapixelAI at a reduced price of only $63, "which only makes good economic sense." It sounded like they had opted me into a yearly subscription deal to which I had not only not been informed of previously but had not agreed to. I didn't ask them about it - just went ahead and paid the $63 so I don't know the downside of not going along with them. I'm just really tired of discussing this with people in the ever-evolving software industry who committed to certain behavior like "always free updates" only to subsequently discover they had "counted their chickens before the eggs hatched" and have to change their minds when they discover they clearly didn't understand the downside of a saturated market and had to bail on their commitment or sink. It is what it is. They may be phasing in the new process that I've been hit with gradually, starting with older users to dampen a backlash storm. It'll be interesting to see...
Yep, just yesterday. I'm a long time user, select... (show quote)


Sorry you have to keep searching. Look for 'coupons', etc. and you will find something. The Topaz website can also, apparently, detect that you are searching for a better price (AI???) and they will offer you a 'best deal' of a few dollars instead of tens of dollars per upgrade.

To me, this is still better than outright 'renting' the software like Adobe monthly subscriptions.

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Aug 8, 2021 02:40:58   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Paul Diamond wrote:
Sorry you have to keep searching. Look for 'coupons', etc. and you will find something. The Topaz website can also, apparently, detect that you are searching for a better price (AI???) and they will offer you a 'best deal' of a few dollars instead of tens of dollars per upgrade.

To me, this is still better than outright 'renting' the software like Adobe monthly subscriptions.


I wasn't and haven't been searching for anything to do with Topaz. I've been content to use the non-updated versions I have and wasn't planning to update anymore so the only thing they may have detected is that I wasn't playing the new game in a manner convenient to them and I took it to be a need for a donation and served one up in appreciation for all the previous years of satisfied service from them.

Your last comment appears to support a belief that we end users "own" software which would be contrary to the reality - we as users never own their software - we merely pay for a license to use it and how, with Topaz, that differs from Adobe is a matter of semantics and pretty meaningless. They've figured a way to have a renewable source of income and it is in our better interest to play along so they don't go out of business, something that would not be a good thing for most end users. At 84 I figure I'll be the one out of business before most software producers. My association with computers began in the late '60s as a programmer/analyst. I have done my fair share and I may even have an even greater appreciation for what they do than many other folks might. As a software junkie I appreciate every bit of the effort that someone else does that produces software that performs a useful task I want to get done. They usually earn their keep.

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