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Is skill no longer a priority? Canon R5 and Sony A9ll. (animal eye detection, 30fps,and a 95% keeper rate)
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Jul 19, 2021 09:46:56   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
Mac wrote:
Push the button on the camera then click the AI button in post.
“Look ma, I’m a photographer.”


Know how to drive a stick shift; and how to double clutch. “Look ma, I can drive a car”. Seems awful simplistic doesn’t it? Technology can do some great things, & at my age changes in technology aren’t easy to grasp, but I will use what I can understand & be the better for it.

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Jul 19, 2021 09:53:30   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The technology is getting so good that we need to just point in the right direction and push the shutter button. Is this even photography or just computerized robots with very little innate sense of the use of light and individual input.

There is something to be said for doing things by hand. Myself, I like having all the technology possible at my fingertips, but I can choose to use it or not.

My hobby is more editing than taking pictures, but there is something I don't like about software that automatically does things like replace sky's, or the Nik collection of plugin filters. I will use the Nik stuff sometimes, but it never really gives me as much satisfaction as doing it "by hand."

Speaking of sky's, I enjoy replacing sky's, and have used freeware images in my compositions, but, regardless of how good it might look in the final product, I never get the same satisfaction out of using another's photo. I have no pictures of lightning, or the Milky Way, so have to either take one, or use someone else's.
This I reckon is where people that like fooling around by hand rather than relying of AI and so on to do the dirty work are coming from. I reckon it's just a matter of degree.

I'm pretty certain if my camera took perfect pictures all the time, I'd loose interest in a hurry.

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Jul 19, 2021 10:05:44   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
BigDaddy wrote:
There is something to be said for doing things by hand. Myself, I like having all the technology possible at my fingertips, but I can choose to use it or not.

My hobby is more editing than taking pictures, but there is something I don't like about software that automatically does things like replace sky's, or the Nik collection of plugin filters. I will use the Nik stuff sometimes, but it never really gives me as much satisfaction as doing it "by hand."

Speaking of sky's, I enjoy replacing sky's, and have used freeware images in my compositions, but, regardless of how good it might look in the final product, I never get the same satisfaction out of using another's photo. I have no pictures of lightning, or the Milky Way, so have to either take one, or use someone else's.
This I reckon is where people that like fooling around by hand rather than relying of AI and so on to do the dirty work are coming from. I reckon it's just a matter of degree.

I'm pretty certain if my camera took perfect pictures all the time, I'd loose interest in a hurry.
There is something to be said for doing things by ... (show quote)

Good points.

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Jul 19, 2021 10:22:26   #
nmw1004 Loc: Dresher PA
 
Almost all of the photos I have hanging on my walls were taken with film processed and enlarged in my basement darkroom. I got much more satisfaction adjusting the print by dodging and burning and using filters than by clicking the mouse on my computer. That being said I gave away my darkroom set up a year ago because nobody had any use for it, including me.

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Jul 19, 2021 10:39:14   #
nikonnate Loc: Woodbury MN
 
My camera has Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, but not Skill Priority

Some things your camera just can't do. Even the best ones.

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Jul 19, 2021 10:49:18   #
barrytex
 
I don't consider myself to be very artistic. Photography gives me the opportunity to be somewhat artistic through composure and setting the camera up correctly. It is an emotional joy that would not get with point and shoot.

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Jul 19, 2021 10:54:05   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Composition is a picture (otherwise it's a document).

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Jul 19, 2021 10:55:11   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
New cameras are designed for accomplishment, engineered for success, and endowed with the seeds of greatness. What are you waiting for?

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Jul 19, 2021 10:56:31   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
"CHG_CANON" A competent user.

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Jul 19, 2021 11:15:38   #
pecohen Loc: Central Maine
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The technology is getting so good that we need to just point in the right direction and push the shutter button. Is this even photography or just computerized robots with very little innate sense of the use of light and individual input.

I have to imagine that artists who worked in oils or watercolors must have felt the same way about the earliest cameras and those who used them. The response should be about the same - new technology opens new capabilities. New skills have to be invented and perfected to exploit the new capabilities fully.

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Jul 19, 2021 11:26:49   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
w00dy4012 wrote:
Why would you even considerer a digital camera while film is an alternative and requires more (Different?) skill?


Every once and a while I get a wild hair and decide to shoot film. I load up a camera, go out, send off the film to get processed, and wait 2, or 3 or 6 weeks for it to come back. While I’m waiting I remember why I shoot digital now.

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Jul 19, 2021 11:30:13   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
greenwork wrote:
Well said ;-)


If you click on the quote reply button we will know who you are responding to.

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Jul 19, 2021 11:34:44   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Longshadow wrote:
The nice thing about technology is that it can make anyone a photographer.

Kinda like that voice thing singers use.



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Jul 19, 2021 11:41:19   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
nikonnate wrote:
My camera has Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, but not Skill Priority

Some things your camera just can't do. Even the best ones.


Manual is Skill Priority

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Jul 19, 2021 11:45:23   #
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greenwork wrote:
Well said ;-)

Thank you !!

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