Is skill no longer a priority? Canon R5 and Sony A9ll. (animal eye detection, 30fps,and a 95% keeper rate)
Jul 18, 2021 11:22:28 #
The technology is getting so good that we need to just point in the right direction and push the shutter button. Is this even photography or just computerized robots with very little innate sense of the use of light and individual input.
Jul 18, 2021 11:27:04 #
Strengthening skill sets is one thing that a person trying to accomplish any goal should practice. Then practice buying a new camera.
Jul 18, 2021 11:30:57 #
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The technology is getting so good that we need to just point in the right direction and push the shutter button. Is this even photography or just computerized robots with very little innate sense of the use of light and individual input.
I don't think I would ever own a camera like those because I really don't want to spend that much money. But then if you say the technologies that can get you the result? Well perhaps if you shoot sport, BIF, things that is changing quickly and there is no way one can track the eye with manual focus? But what's about landscape, still life? which I am most interested in? Would those capabilities help me in any way? It takes me a few seconds but I can surely focus accurately manually.
Jul 18, 2021 11:31:47 #
The personal joy I derive from my photography hobby has never depended on caring about the skill level of the "other guy" - except as inspiration.
I do understand that the way photography was back in the "good old days" is very important to many of the UHH old-timers
I do understand that the way photography was back in the "good old days" is very important to many of the UHH old-timers
Jul 18, 2021 11:33:32 #
Jul 18, 2021 11:36:56 #
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The technology is getting so good that we need to just point in the right direction and push the shutter button. Is this even photography or just computerized robots with very little innate sense of the use of light and individual input.
These technologies go way beyond any human skill possibilities.
Artistic skill they do not have but frees the human to work on the artistic skill or composition without the bother of stressing about focus, advancing the film or a myriad of other things.
I do not miss double clutching to shift gears, sticking my arm out the window to signal a turn, struggling to turn the wheel and my father did not miss cranking by hand etc.
If these technologies in photography bother you then you are free to go make your wet glass plates and put them into your view camera then immediately develop them in your wagon. What a concept.
Jul 18, 2021 11:46:35 #
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The technology is getting so good that we need to just point in the right direction and push the shutter button. Is this even photography or just computerized robots with very little innate sense of the use of light and individual input.
You are free to use manual everything if you like. The automated features of cameras have nothing to do with a good eye for light and composition. They just help with techniques like focus and exposure, and can enable you to get shots that would be much more difficult to get without them.
Jul 18, 2021 11:57:15 #
Jul 18, 2021 11:58:33 #
I too was skeptical with my first digital. But have learned that it does help me take better pictures. Yes, I'm guilty of auto focus, but some times it allows me to get a moving shot, I might not have gotten quick enough. When I have the time, I manually focus or auto focus on a specific point, lock it in, then frame. Best of all, I see my picture on the screen and can determine, if I need to do something different to make it more effective, adjust for lighting conditions and focal point. It would have been difficult to do that in the field with a film camera. Just think about carrying all those chemicals, trays and an enlarger out into the field, and then asking that deer to stick around in case I had to take another picture. Plus I can experiment with different focal points, exposures and shadows until I get the shot I want. And when I want to be old school, I can turn off the auto features, get out my trusty Weston Model 5, and set apature and shutter speed and manually focus.
Jul 18, 2021 12:00:36 #
If my quest is to get the best possible results I can and there are tools available to achieve that objective, why wouldn’t I use those tool if they were available and I had the means to acquire them. That wouldn’t make sense, would it?
Jul 18, 2021 12:08:27 #
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The technology is getting so good that we need to just point in the right direction and push the shutter button. Is this even photography or just computerized robots with very little innate sense of the use of light and individual input.
Push the button on the camera then click the AI button in post.
“Look ma, I’m a photographer.”
Jul 18, 2021 12:20:15 #
Artistry is different from the technical part of adjusting a camera. Then again, if we were meant to adjust focus, they would have split ring/microprism focus aids in the viewfinder. Then again, my best photos only exist after post-processing, and I have yet to find an editor that can do it for me.
Jul 18, 2021 12:24:58 #
Architect1776 wrote:
These technologies go way beyond any human skill p... (show quote)
Amen and thank you.
Jul 18, 2021 12:26:34 #
Nalu wrote:
If my quest is to get the best possible results I can and there are tools available to achieve that objective, why wouldn’t I use those tool if they were available and I had the means to acquire them. That wouldn’t make sense, would it?
Acoarst it makes sense. But that has little pull hereabouts.
Jul 18, 2021 12:27:48 #
Mac wrote:
Push the button on the camera then click the AI button in post.
“Look ma, I’m a photographer.”
“Look ma, I’m a photographer.”
Apparently, if barely so. Overtly prizing going through the motions is the sign of the poseur.
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