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Is skill no longer a priority? Canon R5 and Sony A9ll. (animal eye detection, 30fps,and a 95% keeper rate)
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Jul 19, 2021 05:18:11   #
BebuLamar
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Unless the camera can read your mind and automatically take the exact image you have in your minds eye, skill is always a priority. The camera, regardless of the technology, doesn't understand how to use light, color, line, texture and shape, or how to compose an image to evoke a mood, tell a story, or direct the eye of the viewer. Improved technology may be great for those wanting good quality casual holiday snapshots or images of the kids with less effort, but photography is a lot more than face detection, keeper rates and other useful technological gadgets. A poor image is still a poor image regardless of how sharp or in focus it may be.
Unless the camera can read your mind and automatic... (show quote)


If it produces the image you have in your minds eye then you do need skill. You need skill to visualize that image. If you don't have skill you need a camera that can decide which kind of images to take for you.

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Jul 19, 2021 05:19:38   #
w00dy4012 Loc: Thalia, East Virginia
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The technology is getting so good that we need to just point in the right direction and push the shutter button. Is this even photography or just computerized robots with very little innate sense of the use of light and individual input.


Why would you even considerer a digital camera while film is an alternative and requires more (Different?) skill?

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Jul 19, 2021 05:50:18   #
daldds Loc: NYC
 
73 years ago I started my photographic hobby with a Kodak Duoflex II. I have taken full advantage of the features on my new cameras…why not?
In the end, it’s always about two things anyway: a good eye, and unless it’s a planned shot, serendipity.

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Jul 19, 2021 05:57:19   #
Ollieboy
 
Does the sculptor who uses state of the art chisels made of the newest materials get any less credit?

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Jul 19, 2021 06:15:22   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
Architect1776 wrote:
These technologies go way beyond any human skill possibilities.
Artistic skill they do not have but frees the human to work on the artistic skill or composition without the bother of stressing about focus, advancing the film or a myriad of other things.
I do not miss double clutching to shift gears, sticking my arm out the window to signal a turn, struggling to turn the wheel and my father did not miss cranking by hand etc.

If these technologies in photography bother you then you are free to go make your wet glass plates and put them into your view camera then immediately develop them in your wagon. What a concept.
These technologies go way beyond any human skill p... (show quote)


Exactly. Is anyone complaining that modern pilots have avionics and radar comms and computer assist? Do you really want them doing everything manually like in the 1930s?

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Jul 19, 2021 06:53:40   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Architect1776 wrote:
These technologies go way beyond any human skill possibilities.
Artistic skill they do not have but frees the human to work on the artistic skill or composition without the bother of stressing about focus, advancing the film or a myriad of other things.
I do not miss double clutching to shift gears, sticking my arm out the window to signal a turn, struggling to turn the wheel and my father did not miss cranking by hand etc.

If these technologies in photography bother you then you are free to go make your wet glass plates and put them into your view camera then immediately develop them in your wagon. What a concept.
These technologies go way beyond any human skill p... (show quote)


Well said.

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Jul 19, 2021 07:03:40   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
As you sip your coffee in your car your cameras/drone will fly around and take photos with a few verbal instructions. Verbal commands similar to my ROKU ... "Portrait Photography" ... and suddenly there will be a list of YouTube videos to chose from... and Even a movie called the "Portrait of Dorian Gray."

Actually, the camera and photographer are not needed. You only pick the image or images and edit with your artistic goal, then do a 3D print underlayment and next a spray of color ink will add the reality. Presto... you have a winning photo without ever having that camera.

Just as PHRubin said above: "Then again, my best photos only exist after post-processing, and I have yet to find an editor[??] that can do it for me." PH, do you mean automatically??

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Jul 19, 2021 07:23:33   #
greenwork Loc: Southwest Florida
 
Well said ;-)

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Jul 19, 2021 07:48:33   #
BebuLamar
 
kymarto wrote:
Exactly. Is anyone complaining that modern pilots have avionics and radar comms and computer assist? Do you really want them doing everything manually like in the 1930s?


The 777 that crashed in San Francisco because the pilot was incapable of flying the plane like it was in the 1930's.

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Jul 19, 2021 07:56:38   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
That is a good point. We have a lot of technicians on the blog. Only the mechanics on this blog. Photography is what the eye sees and the total view of the subject not the repair on the computer.

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Jul 19, 2021 08:09:32   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
We accomplish things by directing our desires, not by ignoring them.


Didn’t work on my wife😄😄😄

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Jul 19, 2021 08:15:13   #
Peteso Loc: Blacks Hills
 
Technology and skills are not mutually exclusive. On the contrary; they are synergistic. I have cameras with what current technology offers. I also have the skills to make good choices, including composition, shutter speed, f-stop, ISO, menu settings, filters, post processing, etc.

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Jul 19, 2021 08:26:41   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Ah the good old days...still living in that period?

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Jul 19, 2021 08:35:00   #
doclrb
 
User ID wrote:
Acoarst it makes sense. But that has little pull hereabouts.



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Jul 19, 2021 08:47:07   #
Eric Bornstein Loc: Toronto Canada
 
A photograph is more than a good exposure. Pointed in the ‘right’ direction, it is hard to beat the cell phone camera. However. The photographic image is meant to convey a story to the viewer. It is important to grab the viewer emotionally and transport them to your destination. The ‘correct’ exposure will seldom be achieved in today’s cameras because correct is part of the artistic license that we are striving for in our images. I’ve seen some very poor images from ‘photographers’ who have no idea about light, composition and the principles of design.

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