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Jul 16, 2021 21:36:26   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
ronpier wrote:
I don’t understand what difference it makes whether Nikons are made in Japan or somewhere else.


The only thing that might matter is perception. Nixon's high end gear was usually made in Japan. The fact that the majority of parts are outsourced from all over the world is immaterial.

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Jul 16, 2021 21:51:54   #
BebuLamar
 
ronpier wrote:
I don’t understand what difference it makes whether Nikons are made in Japan or somewhere else.


Most people especially in the USA don't understand it. That is why there is no way anyone can bring back manufacturing to the USA.

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Jul 17, 2021 02:49:23   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
twb930s wrote:
Not true - Ever heard of Daimler Benz? And there were several others before old Henry got started, was fired and started again. As to Nikon failing... YAWN....ZZZZZZ. Wake me when it's over.


Yea! Oops, excuse me, I don't mean to cheer, so *yeah!*

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Jul 17, 2021 07:04:19   #
John Hicks Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
 
I do not wish to get involved with the argument about Nikon but here in the UK Canon make medical equipment and in the local hospital there are CT scanners and a lot of other equipment with the Canon name on them.
If someone prefers Nikon, Canon, Fuji, Leica, Sony, Hasselblad and the other makes of photographic equipment then it shows the diversity and the range of equipment available.

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Jul 17, 2021 07:47:19   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Most people especially in the USA don't understand it. That is why there is no way anyone can bring back manufacturing to the USA.


We are not talking about American companies. Nikon is and always will be a foreign company whether based in Japan or Southeast Asia. Their products are foreign and always have been.

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Jul 17, 2021 08:39:27   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
DaveO wrote:
Oh, no! Sounds like Ford versus Chevy discussions!


FORD = Found On the Road Dead

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Jul 17, 2021 08:48:20   #
teammt
 
This a forum about photography for Pete's sake. Why not discuss issues about Nikon and other photography matters and keep the political discussion of another venue!

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Jul 17, 2021 09:07:16   #
singleshot Loc: Georgia
 
Mac wrote:
Yawn.
I use Nikon and all this hoopla bores me.
Whatever will happen will happen. If Nikon goes defunct the equipment will continue to function. And the planet will continue to turn on it’s axis.
It’s a sad commentary that with all the up going on in the world that anyone would give a rat’s about something so simple minded.


AMEN brother, amen.

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Jul 17, 2021 09:21:29   #
Hanson
 
Well said!!

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Jul 17, 2021 09:24:23   #
BebuLamar
 
ronpier wrote:
We are not talking about American companies. Nikon is and always will be a foreign company whether based in Japan or Southeast Asia. Their products are foreign and always have been.


It's my opinion whatever you think is entirely up to you. If I found a company in Vietnam I would have the factory in Vietnam. There is nothing wrong with that. You can put the manufacturing plant near where you consumers are and that does make sense. But to have your manufacturing moves to other countries for the sake of saving labor cost I can't support that. The same reason US companies moved their production overseas. I wouldn't want a Leica made in Japan. I would have no problem buying a DJI drone made in China because the company started there.
Nikon has to move all of their camera production to Thailand and they are #3. Why is that the #1 Canon makes most of their cameras in Japan and they didn't lose money? All the EOS-R series and almost all the EOS are made in Japan.
I am a Nikon fan boy.

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Jul 17, 2021 09:29:42   #
srscary Loc: Cary, NC
 
billnikon wrote:
Nikon is a global scientific instrument company, the camera division makes up about 12-18% of their overall sales.
About 8 years ago Nikon realized their camera division was falling behind so they upped their R&R and their young engineer hires are starting to make inroads in their camera division.
But without Canon, Sony, and many others we would not have the competition we need to force companies to constantly improve their products.
I salute them all.


👍👍👍

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Jul 17, 2021 09:41:53   #
Hanson
 
A Canon rep told me Canon only make their new high end models in Japan for the first few years (2?) and then move the production of those models to Thailand (or off-shore). I don't know how true it is.
The Canon old models are not made in Japan anymore.

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Jul 17, 2021 09:42:32   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
BebuLamar wrote:
It's my opinion whatever you think is entirely up to you. If I found a company in Vietnam I would have the factory in Vietnam. There is nothing wrong with that. You can put the manufacturing plant near where you consumers are and that does make sense. But to have your manufacturing moves to other countries for the sake of saving labor cost I can't support that. The same reason US companies moved their production overseas. I wouldn't want a Leica made in Japan. I would have no problem buying a DJI drone made in China because the company started there.
Nikon has to move all of their camera production to Thailand and they are #3. Why is that the #1 Canon makes most of their cameras in Japan and they didn't lose money? All the EOS-R series and almost all the EOS are made in Japan.
I am a Nikon fan boy.
It's my opinion whatever you think is entirely up ... (show quote)


Nikon is a foreign company setting up shop in another foreign country. Americans are consumers of foreign products made in foreign countries. Doesn’t change the product. Can’t Buy American for any camera even Canon.

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Jul 17, 2021 09:49:31   #
Bubbee Loc: Aventura, Florida
 
Mac wrote:
Bad mouthing Nikon is the only thing he’s got.


This is very sad!
All these negative comments and personal attacks do not belong in this forum.
We're here to help and respect each other, not insult.
I, for one, am very disappointed, and hope it doesn't continue.

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Jul 17, 2021 11:47:44   #
Dan Ausec
 
Warhorse wrote:
I like chocolate, and really don't care if you like vanilla.



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