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Oct 27, 2012 19:15:54   #
mack45
 
Ok I have been working with faststone and it is doing all I wanted.for now

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Oct 27, 2012 21:21:08   #
dickhrm Loc: Spingfield, IL
 
I have PSE 8 and it works well for me. However I'm always interested in upgrading. What does PSE 10 offer that PSE 8 does not? I'm asking because I'd like to know if the cost of it, plus the learning curve associated with it (a couple years ago I went from PSE 5 to 8 and found there was consderable relearning required) would be worthwhile. Thanks.

oldtool2 wrote:
krispix wrote:
Photoshop Elements is cheap and will do 90% of what the full-blown CS6 will do. Moreover, any tutorial you find in a magazine, on-line or through a forum such as this will almost certainly be weighted towards Photoshop.


Photo Shop Elements 10 is an excellent choice. This program will do most anything the non-pro will ever need; in fact many pros use it. Now that version 11 is out version 10 has become even cheaper. The more I use this program the more of its hidden secrets I find. There is also a ton of plug-ins available it.

Jim D
quote=krispix Photoshop Elements is cheap and wil... (show quote)

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Oct 27, 2012 22:03:54   #
buffyjean Loc: Washington, North Carolina
 
ipiccy

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Oct 27, 2012 23:12:29   #
Nikon_DonB Loc: Chicago
 
To get started you could try the Windows Live Photo Gallery. You can download it free from MS. After getting your "feet wet" you may like Corel Paintshop Pro x4. Very reasonably priced and powerful. It seems to be a favorite here versus the overpriced Adobe programs.

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Oct 27, 2012 23:24:06   #
Pepsiman Loc: New York City
 
Picasa 3 is free and easy to use, from google...

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Oct 28, 2012 02:23:28   #
picpiper Loc: California
 
mack45 wrote:
Ok I have been working with faststone and it is doing all I wanted.for now


Fastone is good. I do a lot of PP in Photoshop, but started with Picasa years ago for library management, simple editing and sharing with relatives through Web Albums.

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Oct 28, 2012 03:15:34   #
MIKE GALLAGHER Loc: New Zealand
 
Gimp has been likened to Photoshop in its abilities and sophistication but the problem has been learning how to use it. Thankfully that is being addresses right now, here in the discussion forum by Shakey and his grandson Keven. The first posting was
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-69708-1.html
and the latest is today's.
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user_posts_listing.jsp?usernum=18998&page=48
and is continuing.

If you try it (again) be sure to follow Shakey's instructions re downloading carefully.

Let me tell you he has a very simple and comprehensive teaching style and I doubt you'll be disappointed.
Mike

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Oct 28, 2012 08:45:54   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
dickhrm wrote:
I have PSE 8 and it works well for me. However I'm always interested in upgrading. What does PSE 10 offer that PSE 8 does not? I'm asking because I'd like to know if the cost of it, plus the learning curve associated with it (a couple years ago I went from PSE 5 to 8 and found there was consderable relearning required) would be worthwhile. Thanks.

oldtool2 wrote:
krispix wrote:
Photoshop Elements is cheap and will do 90% of what the full-blown CS6 will do. Moreover, any tutorial you find in a magazine, on-line or through a forum such as this will almost certainly be weighted towards Photoshop.


Photo Shop Elements 10 is an excellent choice. This program will do most anything the non-pro will ever need; in fact many pros use it. Now that version 11 is out version 10 has become even cheaper. The more I use this program the more of its hidden secrets I find. There is also a ton of plug-ins available it.

Jim D
quote=krispix Photoshop Elements is cheap and wil... (show quote)
I have PSE 8 and it works well for me. However I'... (show quote)


Dick,

I went from 9 to 10 and there were many additions as well as improvements in 10. It would take too long to list them and don't know of any charts or list that show them. I did find it was worth it to ME. I also found there was a fairly large learning curve.

To my line of thinking any time you upgrade a program there should be a learning curve, if not it was not worth upgrading to.

Look for a trial version, download it and try it. If you do not like the new version nothing is lost except some time.

Jim D

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Oct 28, 2012 10:44:04   #
dickhrm Loc: Spingfield, IL
 
Thanks, Jim. Maybe I'll await what I understand is an upcoming release of PSE 11 and try that out. If I'm to upgrade, I might as well do it with the very latest version of it.

Dick

oldtool2 wrote:
dickhrm wrote:
I have PSE 8 and it works well for me. However I'm always interested in upgrading. What does PSE 10 offer that PSE 8 does not? I'm asking because I'd like to know if the cost of it, plus the learning curve associated with it (a couple years ago I went from PSE 5 to 8 and found there was consderable relearning required) would be worthwhile. Thanks.

oldtool2 wrote:
krispix wrote:
Photoshop Elements is cheap and will do 90% of what the full-blown CS6 will do. Moreover, any tutorial you find in a magazine, on-line or through a forum such as this will almost certainly be weighted towards Photoshop.


Photo Shop Elements 10 is an excellent choice. This program will do most anything the non-pro will ever need; in fact many pros use it. Now that version 11 is out version 10 has become even cheaper. The more I use this program the more of its hidden secrets I find. There is also a ton of plug-ins available it.

Jim D
quote=krispix Photoshop Elements is cheap and wil... (show quote)
I have PSE 8 and it works well for me. However I'... (show quote)


Dick,

I went from 9 to 10 and there were many additions as well as improvements in 10. It would take too long to list them and don't know of any charts or list that show them. I did find it was worth it to ME. I also found there was a fairly large learning curve.

To my line of thinking any time you upgrade a program there should be a learning curve, if not it was not worth upgrading to.

Look for a trial version, download it and try it. If you do not like the new version nothing is lost except some time.

Jim D
quote=dickhrm I have PSE 8 and it works well for ... (show quote)

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Oct 28, 2012 11:37:01   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
dickhrm wrote:
Thanks, Jim. Maybe I'll await what I understand is an upcoming release of PSE 11 and try that out. If I'm to upgrade, I might as well do it with the very latest version of it.

Dick

oldtool2 wrote:
dickhrm wrote:
I have PSE 8 and it works well for me. However I'm always interested in upgrading. What does PSE 10 offer that PSE 8 does not? I'm asking because I'd like to know if the cost of it, plus the learning curve associated with it (a couple years ago I went from PSE 5 to 8 and found there was consderable relearning required) would be worthwhile. Thanks.

oldtool2 wrote:
krispix wrote:
Photoshop Elements is cheap and will do 90% of what the full-blown CS6 will do. Moreover, any tutorial you find in a magazine, on-line or through a forum such as this will almost certainly be weighted towards Photoshop.


Photo Shop Elements 10 is an excellent choice. This program will do most anything the non-pro will ever need; in fact many pros use it. Now that version 11 is out version 10 has become even cheaper. The more I use this program the more of its hidden secrets I find. There is also a ton of plug-ins available it.

Jim D
quote=krispix Photoshop Elements is cheap and wil... (show quote)
I have PSE 8 and it works well for me. However I'... (show quote)


Dick,

I went from 9 to 10 and there were many additions as well as improvements in 10. It would take too long to list them and don't know of any charts or list that show them. I did find it was worth it to ME. I also found there was a fairly large learning curve.

To my line of thinking any time you upgrade a program there should be a learning curve, if not it was not worth upgrading to.

Look for a trial version, download it and try it. If you do not like the new version nothing is lost except some time.

Jim D
quote=dickhrm I have PSE 8 and it works well for ... (show quote)
Thanks, Jim. Maybe I'll await what I understand i... (show quote)


I believe 11 has already been released. The reason I had suggested PSE 10 is money seemed to be an issue for the OP. With 11 out 10 would be discounted.

Jim D

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Oct 28, 2012 12:43:37   #
mack45
 
Hi I am happy with the faststone editor and I have done some photo editing with is. I will eventually buy the PSE 11 if I get that far. It looks to have the most advantages. I was quite fascinated with the actions of some of the other photo editors, but they seem to focus on just a few functions. I am very grateful to have found such a crowd of knowledge on photography. Thank you all.

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Oct 28, 2012 21:29:15   #
dickhrm Loc: Spingfield, IL
 
Thanks again. Maybe I'll do some comparison shopping and see what the cost difference is between them. Meantime I'll look on the internet and see if I can find a discussion of what either one can do for me vs. PSE 8.

For my primary needs, cropping, lighting adjustments, sharpening, etc., I find PSE 8 is quite satisfactory, so I'd have to be sure it'd be an improvement in these particular areas to warrant the cost of buying PSE 10 or 11, not to mention the learning curve.

oldtool2 wrote:
dickhrm wrote:
Thanks, Jim. Maybe I'll await what I understand is an upcoming release of PSE 11 and try that out. If I'm to upgrade, I might as well do it with the very latest version of it.

Dick

oldtool2 wrote:
dickhrm wrote:
I have PSE 8 and it works well for me. However I'm always interested in upgrading. What does PSE 10 offer that PSE 8 does not? I'm asking because I'd like to know if the cost of it, plus the learning curve associated with it (a couple years ago I went from PSE 5 to 8 and found there was consderable relearning required) would be worthwhile. Thanks.

oldtool2 wrote:
krispix wrote:
Photoshop Elements is cheap and will do 90% of what the full-blown CS6 will do. Moreover, any tutorial you find in a magazine, on-line or through a forum such as this will almost certainly be weighted towards Photoshop.


Photo Shop Elements 10 is an excellent choice. This program will do most anything the non-pro will ever need; in fact many pros use it. Now that version 11 is out version 10 has become even cheaper. The more I use this program the more of its hidden secrets I find. There is also a ton of plug-ins available it.

Jim D
quote=krispix Photoshop Elements is cheap and wil... (show quote)
I have PSE 8 and it works well for me. However I'... (show quote)


Dick,

I went from 9 to 10 and there were many additions as well as improvements in 10. It would take too long to list them and don't know of any charts or list that show them. I did find it was worth it to ME. I also found there was a fairly large learning curve.

To my line of thinking any time you upgrade a program there should be a learning curve, if not it was not worth upgrading to.

Look for a trial version, download it and try it. If you do not like the new version nothing is lost except some time.

Jim D
quote=dickhrm I have PSE 8 and it works well for ... (show quote)
Thanks, Jim. Maybe I'll await what I understand i... (show quote)


I believe 11 has already been released. The reason I had suggested PSE 10 is money seemed to be an issue for the OP. With 11 out 10 would be discounted.

Jim D
quote=dickhrm Thanks, Jim. Maybe I'll await what... (show quote)

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Oct 29, 2012 14:57:42   #
chirschfield
 
Another good one that costs only about $30-40 is Paintshop Pro from Corel. Has almost as many features as Photoshop and is easier to use.

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Oct 29, 2012 15:36:11   #
mack45
 
I looked at the paint shop pro as well as others and I am not sure about it. For one thing most of the reviews of it were negative. There is no real video on what it will do or how good it does. The positive reviews that are there look to be plants they say nothing about why they like the product or what features they like?
On the positive it has a free trial version it may be worth trying.

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Oct 30, 2012 00:34:34   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
Corel has two very good photo editing programs:
Corel Aftershot Pro is an inexpensive alternative to Lightroom
and Corel Paintshop Pro X4 and recently released X5 for editing jpgs instead of Photoshop or Phtoshop Elements.
Each is well under $100 and are often on sale at 40-50 % off.

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