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Oct 31, 2020 11:46:28   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
sb wrote:
Two issues: if you use the likeness for profit you would need a release. The other issue is whether or not the person had an "expectation of privacy". You could easily argue that in a museum open to the public there is no reasonable expectation of privacy and that therefore you have the right to take their photo. The reality is that the subject of your photo will probably never know, and if he did and asked you to remove the photo and you did so, I wouldn't think you could face any serious repercussions. Many people might be honored if the photo does not show them in a bad light. Of course, one can make the argument that whoever has the most money for lawyers will win the argument...
Two issues: if you use the likeness for profit you... (show quote)



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Oct 31, 2020 15:30:19   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
For Christmas last year one of my sons gifted me with the 4th Edition of "Legal Handbook for Photographers, the rights and Responsibilities of Making and Selling Images", a very informative and helpful guide to what photographers should know when taking photographs. The edition was copyrighted in 2017 but should still be applicable in most instances. There is a section on model releases and related use of publicly photographing people.

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Oct 31, 2020 16:10:13   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
cedymock wrote:
Did you click on her name to see she has a total of 66 people following her tweet?


This topic is for model release discussions.

I will only discuss NY law on this link.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-671242-1.html

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Oct 31, 2020 19:35:49   #
Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
 
Just blur out his face. That will solve the problem.

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Nov 1, 2020 08:06:31   #
spraguead Loc: Boston, MA
 
If you are a hobbyist, don't worry about it.

If you are a pro, of any degree, you need to know the rules and don't count on learning them here.

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Nov 1, 2020 12:12:33   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
This thread must set a record for misinformation, legally dangerous misinformation, and general cluelessness. Even some of the more informed commenters still get much of their 'info' wrong. One cogent point I'll mention is that 'right of publicity' (the primary law at issue here) varies widely from state to state, and some states don't even have such laws. UHHs interested in this field can start with CA Civil Code section 3344, and the similar law in NY State. Most of the other states' laws in this area are largely copied from those of CA and NY.

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Nov 1, 2020 13:11:23   #
Rational1
 
From an Attorney: https://improvephotography.com/48423/model-release/

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Nov 1, 2020 17:16:40   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
Rational1 wrote:


Thanks. Seems very useful and straightforward, particularly for my artistic use.

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Nov 1, 2020 20:53:26   #
dat2ra Loc: Sacramento
 
Gasman57 wrote:
Good luck with that law passing.


Right. And this would require that every security camera, private and public, would need to obtain the perps' "permission" before they break into the liquor store?

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Nov 2, 2020 12:12:49   #
pdsilen Loc: Roswell, New Mexico
 
cbtsam wrote:
Back in July of 2007, I took a picture of another museum goer as he approached me between two gigantic steel panels of a Richard Serra sculpture at the Museum of Modern Art in New York City. I guess it was sort of street photography, but he's the only person in the picture. Could I get into any legal trouble if I put this image on flickr without even knowing his name?


Due to multiple answers to your post, this is what I would suggest. New York has laws on there books that probably go back to the days when New York was a Dutch colony. I thing that the best way to deal this this situation or any other similar situations that might arise in the future it would probably be a good idea to contact a lawyer if for no other reason to have peace of mind.

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Nov 2, 2020 14:57:50   #
rockdog Loc: Berkeley, Ca.
 
sb wrote:
Two issues: if you use the likeness for profit you would need a release. The other issue is whether or not the person had an "expectation of privacy". You could easily argue that in a museum open to the public there is no reasonable expectation of privacy and that therefore you have the right to take their photo. The reality is that the subject of your photo will probably never know, and if he did and asked you to remove the photo and you did so, I wouldn't think you could face any serious repercussions. Many people might be honored if the photo does not show them in a bad light. Of course, one can make the argument that whoever has the most money for lawyers will win the argument...
Two issues: if you use the likeness for profit you... (show quote)



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Nov 2, 2020 18:34:53   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
Rational1 wrote:


Some attorney! Plenty of misinformation and outright errors. The following, for example, includes some real howlers. The first sentence is outright wrong. The second sentence is misleading and largely wrong.

...Generally, a model release is only required if the way the photo is published makes it seem that the person in the photo endorses the product, service, or organization. ... A model release is not needed for publishing the photo as news, or for artistic or editorial expression.

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Nov 2, 2020 19:14:00   #
jimnyc1 Loc: New York, NY USA
 
Bill_de wrote:
Where did you read that? I tried Google but couldn't find anything.

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Here it is. It's not going anywhere. https://www.diyphotography.net/this-article-sparks-outrage-after-calling-street-photography-gender-based-violence/

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Nov 3, 2020 07:10:26   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
cbtsam wrote:
Back in July of 2007, I took a picture of another museum goer as he approached me between two gigantic steel panels of a Richard Serra sculpture at the Museum of Modern Art in New York City. I guess it was sort of street photography, but he's the only person in the picture. Could I get into any legal trouble if I put this image on flickr without even knowing his name?


Doesn't PS have the ability to solve your problem?

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Nov 3, 2020 11:57:31   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
traderjohn wrote:
Doesn't PS have the ability to solve your problem?


Sure, John, but I do want the person to look like a person. Odd preference, I'm sure, but that's just me! ;-)

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