scubadoc Loc: Sarasota, FL

Your comment about the best way to teach is so on point and applies to any field where there is a student/mentor relationship. Years ago, as a trainee in a medical fellowship, I was subjected to an embarrassing harangue by my fellowship director, in front of several other of my trainees. As angry as I was, I said to the professor, in front of everyone else, that “It takes more than shit to make a garden grow.” He flushed, apologized, and from then on we had a special relationship. He had a lot to teach, but he just needed to know a better way to impart his wisdom.
When we critique the work of other folks on this forum, the same attitude should apply.

Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

It is a great tool to get creative. Select the right type of sky and everything will be fine.

russelray Loc: La Mesa CA

I used to think that as well until I moved to San Diego. We don't get a lot of all-encompassing storms here so it's not unusual to have a storm roll through with the sun shining brightly. I've even had it rain on me with the sun shining brightly.

R.G. Loc: Scotland

Fake as in not being like the original. The sky that was captured was transient and changing from minute to minute. Criticising a replacement sky because it's not like the original doesn't seem like much of a criticism to me.

aellman Loc: Boston MA

This changes my negative opinion on sky replacement. Terrific. >Alan

aellman Loc: Boston MA

There is too much unmotivated angry stuff here. The member you refer to is hardly the only example. Some others are a lot worse; I see it all the time. My advice to those members (you know who you are): Enter all your text, take a deep breath, and then don't click SEND. You may not feel better for it, but the rest of us will.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

You were the one who used meaningless.

I'm not criticizing the image or the process.

My criticism is when people alter reality without disclosure and call it photography.

By your definition an image of Abraham Lincoln on the Moon is photography because the Moon is real and so is Lincoln.

R.G. Loc: Scotland

You're attaching importance to the idea that a photo should be a representation of the actual reality. If that's important to you, fine. There are many who have different priorities and objectives. For example a common objective is to produce a pleasing image. If that's your objective it would be silly to deprive yourself of a powerful technique for achieving that objective.

There are those whose objective is to deceive - so what? That doesn't mean that the technique they use is immoral - it's their use of it that's immoral.

pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY

Nice job. What I do notice is the water being so blue with the alleged heavy overcast. One has to be careful about lining these things up when combining.

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

Nice processing!

rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines

There is a light blueish cast in the center 3 panels of the windows, strongest in the middle one. Logically, that should not be - if anything, the sky as viewed through 2 layers of windows would be a bit darker (and still gray) than when viewed directly.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

What is so different about replacing a sky and removing poles, lines, people, etc.? Either one is simply an enhancement. I have never seen anyone complain about removing items to improve a photo, so why berate adding something? Why is, in some folks’ minds, one ok but not the other? I don’t get the logic behind such reasoning.

Eric Bornstein Loc: Toronto Canada

Great discussion! ‘Funny’ but my first reaction to the opening photograph was a need to show the rest of the scene consistent with the new sky. I like reLism but a well post processed image is a new realism, good day all.

goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl

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To everyone on this post,,,,

I'm going to go out on a limb here and express my opinion and my 2 cents with regards sky replacement & the "Meaning of Photography..."

... It (Sky Replacement) is a technical gimmick, and it is NOT, let me repeat this, it is NOT .... photography, BUT, Creative Art.....

Just because you can push a button and change a graphic image does not make you an iconic photographer. YES, you used photos to 'create an image' but this is not photography itself.

As my daddy use to say, "you can fool some of the people all of the time; You can who all of the people some of the time; BUT.... you're not gonna fool all of the people all of the time...

A true photographer is always in search of what I call the "ICONIC IMAGE"... Which truly represents a very unique moment, which stirs the emotions and is special moment in time which cannot be recreated... as taught by the U.S. Famous Journalist Photographer, Educator and "Olympus Visionary" ,, Mr. Joe Edelman.

I would challenge readers on this post, to go search for the word "Iconic Image"... On Google and look at what are really true examples which have been captured throughout the history of time...

What you're going to find are examples like the several images that I'm going to post... And here you will see the true difference between, True "Photography" and what is "Graphical Art" which some times uses photography in order to create a sometimes pleasant looking images....

In closing, what has happened in the current modern-day time, is that just like word "Coke", has become synonymous with a soft drink beverage,,,, the word "Photography" has also become a generic word for many things in the graphical world.... BUT, there is a true distinct difference between the meaning of the 2 words of Photography and Digital Art......

Last words..... Yes, if you want to use push button in technology, computers and software to create pleasant looking images, by all means, have at it...... BUT.... Full disclosure is important..... AND, don't misrepresent yourself, and then 'sit back' for the sole purpose of gathering the ...... Ohhhhhhh's and the Ahhhhhh's and "Oh My God, What a Beautiful 'Capture'.." when in-fact,,, it is a NOT and you are not as wondfull, as you think you are as a True Photographer....

But, don't misrepresent your creations AND Yourself as an "Iconic Photographer" when you actual use photos as part of your "Graphical Art" creation.......

Just saying...

Cheers
GeoVz
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