SKY REPLACEMENT EXAMPLE
Oct 23, 2020 18:04:22 #
Lots of discussion on this tool. I will generally use this tool for creating an image I see in my mind. The attached images are examples.
The first image is of cape disappointment lighthouse on the north side of the Columbia river in Washington. This is an area that sees a lot of storms. When I captured the original image I could see in my minds imagination a fierce storm brewing. The original image is a blue bird perfect day, but, the sky is boring and not what I would have wanted.
The second image is my creation of what I wanted to photograph. I used the PS sky replacement tool almost exclusively. The red roof on the lighthouse is very distracting, so I toned it down to a shadow. I then used the sky replacement preset and adjusted the lighting to suit the current weather pattern. Since this looked like a fierce storm coming, it wouldn't be unusual to have a squall developing in the ocean. I then went to Luminar 4 and added a lightning bolt.
I realize there are mixed feelings on the use of the sky replacement tool. For me, I like it and will use it when I want to be especially creative as in this example. All the composite images here are real, they just didn't happen on this same day. They happened in my mind on the same day.
Enjoy.
The first image is of cape disappointment lighthouse on the north side of the Columbia river in Washington. This is an area that sees a lot of storms. When I captured the original image I could see in my minds imagination a fierce storm brewing. The original image is a blue bird perfect day, but, the sky is boring and not what I would have wanted.
The second image is my creation of what I wanted to photograph. I used the PS sky replacement tool almost exclusively. The red roof on the lighthouse is very distracting, so I toned it down to a shadow. I then used the sky replacement preset and adjusted the lighting to suit the current weather pattern. Since this looked like a fierce storm coming, it wouldn't be unusual to have a squall developing in the ocean. I then went to Luminar 4 and added a lightning bolt.
I realize there are mixed feelings on the use of the sky replacement tool. For me, I like it and will use it when I want to be especially creative as in this example. All the composite images here are real, they just didn't happen on this same day. They happened in my mind on the same day.
Enjoy.
Oct 23, 2020 18:11:40 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
ImageCreator wrote:
Lots of discussion on this tool. I will generally... (show quote)
It’s amazing what technology and imagination can do.
Oct 23, 2020 18:12:52 #
Oh geez. Didn't your mama ever tell you if don't have something nice to say keep your mouth shut, Meadwilliam?
With all due respect, I'm not a fan either but I hope I can say so in a nicer way. Here's why: The color of the water would be gray with a sky like that. Also, there's a strong black shadow on the back side of the lighthouse indicating it was shot on a bright sunny day. For me, it's fine to replace a sky or whatever you like but the goal should be to make it look real. Both the original and the fake sky image are over-processed. There are haloes around the buildings and the colors are oversaturated.
With all due respect, I'm not a fan either but I hope I can say so in a nicer way. Here's why: The color of the water would be gray with a sky like that. Also, there's a strong black shadow on the back side of the lighthouse indicating it was shot on a bright sunny day. For me, it's fine to replace a sky or whatever you like but the goal should be to make it look real. Both the original and the fake sky image are over-processed. There are haloes around the buildings and the colors are oversaturated.
Oct 23, 2020 18:13:24 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Meadwilliam wrote:
Your created image looks like crap.
Perhaps you will post up some of your superior works for our perusal and comments?
Oct 23, 2020 18:26:55 #
Oct 23, 2020 18:28:37 #
Well, it's not for me. However, your creation has a lot of merit. Creating an effect that appeals to you is what matters, especially if the scene has some meaning for you. With that in mind, it would look great framed for your enjoyment.
Oct 23, 2020 18:31:04 #
Oct 23, 2020 18:33:18 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Meadwilliam wrote:
I’m succinct.
That wasn’t the word I had in mind.
Oct 23, 2020 18:33:40 #
Meadwilliam wrote:
I’m succinct.
It looks like admin thought you were a bit more than 'succinct.'
Oct 23, 2020 19:20:20 #
LWW wrote:
That wasn’t the word I had in mind.
Did the word you had in mind also start with the letter s?🤣 Being rude is totally uncalled for.
Oct 23, 2020 20:27:55 #
ImageCreator wrote:
Lots of discussion on this tool. I will generally... (show quote)
Whilst sky replacement has it's uses, for me this example does not work as it is so unnatural.
Oct 23, 2020 20:34:25 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Grahame wrote:
Whilst sky replacement has it's uses, for me this example does not work as it is so unnatural.
The grass and water appearing to be on sunlight is a bit odd IMHO.
I think it would come across better in black and white.
Oct 23, 2020 20:43:00 #
LWW wrote:
The grass and water appearing to be on sunlight is a bit odd IMHO.
I think it would come across better in black and white.
I think it would come across better in black and white.
For me, it comes accross better by just de-saturating the blue sea and dropping it's luminance.
Oct 23, 2020 20:51:22 #
Some folks have no manners. Some folks have no sense of humour. Others just don't like to have fun with their photography and try something new, just for fun. Even if the result isn't perfect, traditional, or according to the "book"- use it as a learning experience and the next time the results will improve.
As I mentioned in another thread about the sky replacement "controversy, images will look more realistic if the land and water match the weather or the sky conditions and likewise with the direction of light as it
it might affect light and shadow on the landscape.
In my workaday world of commercial photography sometimes we just have to kinda fake something or patch things up to accommodate the client.
During the Covid-19 situation, business slowed up and I was fortunate enough to take in a big assignment for a company that sells, rents and operates heavy construction equipment. It's all out-of-doors and there are strict safety protocols on the sites. The clients required images for their annual report and some photomurals for an upcoming national trade show- late next year. They have several projects on the go and decided to use this opportunity to begin to have me shoot the images. This equipment is booked by the contractors weeks in advance and it may be on each side for a short time so the weather may not be ideal. This equipment is big ugly stuff but they want colourful images and "pretty skies"- so said the AD on the project.
The customer is pleased and thus far has ordered seven 60x80 prints and I still have 12 more sites to cover.
For the purists, I promise not to enter these images in an international salon, none of it will hang in the Musée du Louvre, and I ain't competing with Ansel Adams. So...I am really enjoying the process, trying my best to make the skies compatible withte the landscape, and when I perfect my technique, I'll let y'all know.
I'm also learning all kinds of interesting stuff about construction gear, watching and shooting highly skilled folks in action. Well- there is a whole lot of cussing!
Photographers think their equipment is costly- how about a cement pump at half a million bucks. Some of this stuff rents out at thousands of dollars per day with an operator- awesome! Maybe I'm in the wrong business.
Cussing and swearing aside, I hate harsh or derogatory critiques. If you want to teach someone a better way to do stuff, just explain your case- calling their work "excrement" is immature and counterproductive!
The 2 attached images are thumbnails of work in progress- retouching is underway to blend in gaps. These will be 2 oblong panels as part of a tradeshow booth display.
As I mentioned in another thread about the sky replacement "controversy, images will look more realistic if the land and water match the weather or the sky conditions and likewise with the direction of light as it
it might affect light and shadow on the landscape.
In my workaday world of commercial photography sometimes we just have to kinda fake something or patch things up to accommodate the client.
During the Covid-19 situation, business slowed up and I was fortunate enough to take in a big assignment for a company that sells, rents and operates heavy construction equipment. It's all out-of-doors and there are strict safety protocols on the sites. The clients required images for their annual report and some photomurals for an upcoming national trade show- late next year. They have several projects on the go and decided to use this opportunity to begin to have me shoot the images. This equipment is booked by the contractors weeks in advance and it may be on each side for a short time so the weather may not be ideal. This equipment is big ugly stuff but they want colourful images and "pretty skies"- so said the AD on the project.
The customer is pleased and thus far has ordered seven 60x80 prints and I still have 12 more sites to cover.
For the purists, I promise not to enter these images in an international salon, none of it will hang in the Musée du Louvre, and I ain't competing with Ansel Adams. So...I am really enjoying the process, trying my best to make the skies compatible withte the landscape, and when I perfect my technique, I'll let y'all know.
I'm also learning all kinds of interesting stuff about construction gear, watching and shooting highly skilled folks in action. Well- there is a whole lot of cussing!
Photographers think their equipment is costly- how about a cement pump at half a million bucks. Some of this stuff rents out at thousands of dollars per day with an operator- awesome! Maybe I'm in the wrong business.
Cussing and swearing aside, I hate harsh or derogatory critiques. If you want to teach someone a better way to do stuff, just explain your case- calling their work "excrement" is immature and counterproductive!
The 2 attached images are thumbnails of work in progress- retouching is underway to blend in gaps. These will be 2 oblong panels as part of a tradeshow booth display.
Oct 23, 2020 20:55:36 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Grahame wrote:
For me, it comes accross better by just de-saturating the blue sea and dropping it's luminance.
I could go for that.
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