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Sep 26, 2020 05:41:27   #
48gelo26 Loc: La Spezia Italy
 
Hello Deb ,
The lady is my wife ; from an old dia 1972 approx ...
Angelo

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Sep 26, 2020 05:44:59   #
48gelo26 Loc: La Spezia Italy
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Interesting dilemma.
Your problem is NOT normal.
Google brought up several threads and most seem to point to a bug in the camera related to the memory card.
What size are you using?
From what I'm reading, it looks like if you use a card bigger than 1GB, TIFF files will make everyone look like "Shrek", like your example you posted, but JPEG files are fine with bigger cards (but I'd stick with 2GB or smaller). TIFF files are not the same as raw files. I'm guessing here, but suspect this camera saves as 8 bit color and won't have the latitude to correct sucessfully.

These are a few old threads and no longer complete, but:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/fz20/discuss/72157594566346759/
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/2374138
https://forums.steves-digicams.com/panasonic-leica-29/help-150119/



Welcome to the forum!
If you're Italian, your English is better than a lot of the members here.
Also, when replying directly to a post, use the "Quote Reply" so we know which one you're addressing.
Interesting dilemma. br Your problem is NOT normal... (show quote)


Fantastic miracle !!!! Using an old sd 32MB instead 2GB as per your suggestion : look bellissima .
Now I am looking for one sd 1GB to have space for some pictures ...
Angelo



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Sep 26, 2020 06:01:18   #
48gelo26 Loc: La Spezia Italy
 
48gelo26 wrote:
Fantastic miracle !!!! Using an old sd 32MB instead 2GB as per your suggestion : look bellissima .
Now I am looking for one sd 1GB to have space for some pictures ...
Angelo


AGAIN
One shot with sd 1GB : bellissima see attached
problem solved thanks to you
Space in the sd only 60 pictures , but it is enough for my work ...
Angelo



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Sep 26, 2020 07:22:44   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
48gelo26 wrote:
" Never end to learn "
It is my first time to use Tiff . Terrible interesting


Bella signora.

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Sep 26, 2020 08:32:34   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
48gelo26 wrote:
Fantastic miracle !!!! Using an old sd 32MB instead 2GB as per your suggestion : look bellissima .
Now I am looking for one sd 1GB to have space for some pictures ...
Angelo


Congratulations! And thanks to GoofyNewfie also; this has been an education 👏 👏

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Sep 26, 2020 09:57:50   #
editorsteve
 
Good answers. Many camera RAW files, especially older cameras, are TIFF variants anyway. TIFF is a rather malleable format. But the TIFF versions your editing software recognizes may not coincide with what this camera produces.

The camera probably came with its own disk with editing software. If you don't have it or can't read it, try searching on the Web. It may be able to convert to a more standard tiff losslessly.

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Sep 26, 2020 11:11:11   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
48gelo26 wrote:
Fantastic miracle !!!! Using an old sd 32MB instead 2GB as per your suggestion : look bellissima .
Now I am looking for one sd 1GB to have space for some pictures ...
Angelo


Glad it worked!
You might try comparing a JPEG set to large, fine, (not sure what they call it in yours) to a TIFF from your camera.
It will depend on what your end needs are, but sometimes there isn't that much visible difference besides file size.
Finding smaller cards can be a problem.

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Sep 26, 2020 11:15:33   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
48gelo26 wrote:
Hello ,
First of all sorry to bother you all .
I have a technical problem :
Camera is Panasonic lumix dcm fz 20( 2004 ) , quite old camera but I did not used too much .The camera slept
in the drawer for long time . Today I have to use it for some reasons .

While saving in TIFF format, the pictures become mostly green . On the contrary Jpg format are perfect .
I am amateur and I do not understand if the sensor / camera is broken or it is my fault .
Besides I do not remember what happened in the past : maybe I did not save in tiff format at all .Jpg only .
Thanks a lot for any of your Helps
Best Angelo's regards
La Spezia Italy
Hello , br First of all sorry to bother you all .... (show quote)


You want the TIFF, learn how to process with Ps, ACR, Lr, or similar. Wow, I've never known of a camera to shoot in TIFF before, RAW, JPG, and DNG all the time. Makes sense as another pointed out that a camera TIFF would be like a Camera RAW.

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Sep 26, 2020 11:29:15   #
48gelo26 Loc: La Spezia Italy
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Glad it worked!
You might try comparing a JPEG set to large, fine, (not sure what they call it in yours) to a TIFF from your camera.
It will depend on what your end needs are, but sometimes there isn't that much visible difference besides file size.
Finding smaller cards can be a problem.


Only thanks to you !

But you are also right : from what I can see in one shoot , there is no difference from Tiff ( 14 gb ) and jpg ( standard 1gb ) ; or I am not a good observer : comparing both with adobe photoshop 600% zoom they seems to be exactly the same .
Never mind . It is for me a kind of exercise .
Next week I could use an old nikon d60 and compare with RAW imagine
Angelo's best regards

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Sep 26, 2020 14:47:59   #
granbob Loc: SW Wisc; E Iowa; W Illinois
 
Maybe the lady in the picture is just envious :-)

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Sep 26, 2020 15:51:53   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
granbob wrote:
Maybe the lady in the picture is just envious :-)


Good one!

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Sep 26, 2020 17:55:46   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
lamiaceae wrote:
You want the TIFF, learn how to process with Ps, ACR, Lr, or similar. Wow, I've never known of a camera to shoot in TIFF before, RAW, JPG, and DNG all the time. Makes sense as another pointed out that a camera TIFF would be like a Camera RAW.


No, a TIFF has been processed in the camera. A profile and camera menu settings have been used to process camera-produced TIFF images. Some people consider a 16-bit TIFF to be ALMOST as good as a JPEG, but editing a raw file, and a TIFF made from a raw, will reveal the limitations.

A raw file is digitized, unprocessed data, not a finished image. TIFF comes in around 50 flavors, but most of them contain some sort of bitmap and metadata (data about the bitmap array structure and the camera settings), plus a small JPEG preview image.

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Sep 26, 2020 21:26:20   #
CaliforniaDreamer
 
I don't know anything about you problem, but wanted to say hello. My grandparents were from Lucca and they talked very fondly of Italy.

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Sep 27, 2020 05:34:29   #
48gelo26 Loc: La Spezia Italy
 
TO YOU ALL ...
I joined this club / forum by coincidence . It was , for me , a very great surprise and pleasure .
You solved my small big problem I could not , maybe because my lazy research .
Well
My best regards to you all .
My best personally regards to any bikers ( moto ) .
My best personally regards to Sid Roth , in Chicago , my collegue and a closed Friend of mine .

I will stay in touch with this forum .

Ciao

Angelo

P.S.
Lucca merveilleuse town

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Sep 28, 2020 22:24:13   #
KenY Loc: Glenside, Pa
 
[quote=GoofyNewfie]
From what I'm reading, it looks like if you use a card bigger than 1GB, TIFF files will make everyone look like "Shrek", like your example you posted, but JPEG files are fine with bigger cards (but I'd stick with 2GB or smaller). TIFF files are not the same as raw files. I'm guessing here, but suspect this camera saves as 8 bit color and won't have the latitude to correct sucessfully.

I have the same camera and encountered the same exact problem when I used an SD card bigger than 1Gb. Checking the manual confirms that the biggest SD card supported is 1Gb.

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