Cell phone vs. DSLR (Page 13): :sm06:...

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

CHG_CANON wrote:

Canon EOS models as old as the 1998 co-branded D2000 (2MP from Kodak) have provided RAW image files, although back in those days the files were mis-identified by the 'TIF' extension, even though the contents were not TIF.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

Whitewater11 wrote:

Thanks for locating and sharing the contest files. Awesome! It seems it is always about the photographer and their vision, skill, good fortune, and perhaps software in or out of camera. Most folks only want an eight by ten for less so cell phones are serious competition against expense glass at that level. Cell phones are certainly far less bulky.

At 8x10, cellphones are more than serious competition, especially with someone who knows what they are doing photography wise. The photos that Linda linked to us more than proves that. Even my wife, who has a great sense for composition and no real photography knowledge, can get some shots that make me wish they were mine. Her photos fall apart only when she goes beyond the cellphone's limits.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

Longshadow wrote:

Canon had RAW from my T1i in 2011. Don't know how far prior though. My little Sony H-1 from 2006 does not provide RAW.

I found my reference by-the-way, wdross on page 10 - from the 7 on up (not 7-Up), and I erroneously replied that I had a 10.

All my paperwork for the phone connotes S-III, but I suppose over time it became easier to use S-3. Less typing.

I am sure there are older S7, or even something newer, out there for sale and probably reasonably cheap. As I recall, the sensor was 13mp for the S7. Then you would have a cellphone that will give you a RAW image to play with. That could be lot of fun for you especially when your normal camera is not at hand. Or you could go "whole uglyhedgehog" and get the Galaxy S20 (still too expensive at this time in my opinion).

RightOnPhotography Loc: Quebec,QC

Jbravi wrote:

I have a Samsung s20 ultra which has the awesome camera..... In that case, may be I should just carry my cell phone for vacations etc..

You will join millions of people who take vacation photos with cell phones or tablets. In my travels I was usually in minority with my DSLR and big zoom. At every photo op site I was surrounded by people with phones and iPads. Sigh.

RLSprouse Loc: Encinitas CA (near Sandy Eggo)

chasgroh wrote:

...so, you like the lens, no auto focus, right?

I like the lens, right. No autofocus, right.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

wdross wrote:

I am sure there are older S7, or even something newer, out there for sale and probably reasonably cheap. As I recall, the sensor was 13mp for the S7. Then you would have a cellphone that will give you a RAW image to play with. That could be lot of fun for you especially when your normal camera is not at hand. Or you could go "whole uglyhedgehog" and get the Galaxy S20 (still too expensive at this time in my opinion).

It would be nice, but I usually don't replace stuff until it breaks or wears out. I'm not one to do the latest and greatest.
(I had my 1995 truck for 22 years until I gave it to one of my kids. Loved that truck. Last of the square nose.)

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

TTQ225 wrote:

You will join millions of people who take vacation photos with cell phones or tablets. In my travels I was usually in minority with my DSLR and big zoom. At every photo op site I was surrounded by people with phones and iPads. Sigh.

Both my wife and I know what you mean. She always took her own shots with her cellphone. But the shots that she knew that she wanted for her site, she always made sure that I took them too with my mirrorless system camera. Not that many of the general shots were a lot better, but the ones with the high dynamic ranges and tricky lighting almost always came out better due to my camera's features, flash bracket, and abilities. The images that I took were many times better than other the other agency owner's shots with their cellphones and tablets. And once one gets to a tourist destination or attraction, it is like a sea of arms, held above the tourist head, attached to a cellphone to try and get a good shot (one cannot see the forest because of the cellphoned arm "trees").

mrpentaxk5ii

cahale wrote:

I agree. The man walking in the sand is outstanding -- to look at on screen. Until you start zooming. Then it, and especially the sky goes away. If you can't print an acceptable 24 X 36, it's not a photograph; it's a snapshot.

The size of a photo print , has nothing to do with weather I would consider a photo being a snapshot or a masterpiece, the content of the photo is the main factor, I would rather have a small gem than a large steaming pile.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

mrpentaxk5ii wrote:

The size of a photo print , has nothing to do with weather I would consider a photo being a snapshot or a masterpiece, the content of the photo is the main factor, I would rather have a small gem than a large steaming pile.

I don't know. You might have just upset the pixel peepers.

gs646live

UTMike wrote:

The big problem I have in my cell vs. full frame considerations is the lack of pixels. If you do not plan on much enlargement or PP, a cell is not a problem, but cropping, etc. can be a problem with a cell camera.

That particular phone features cameras ranging all the way up to 108MP though, so I think he's good on that count. Quality of pixels, light gathering are good to look at when comparing the two, in which case the DSLR will always win but the processing that's happening in these phones is nothing short of phenomenal. When they start to implement this in mirrorless cameras, it will be amazing.

gs646live

Well yeah, that combination is tops.

sweedsss31

I use my DSLR for most of my photos. When I want to know were I've taken the pictures I'll take a couple of pictures with my cell phone. It will show the name of the city or the town, or where ever I am.

sweedsss31

I use my DSLR for most of my photos. When I want to know were I've taken the pictures I'll take a couple of pictures with my cell phone. It will show the name of the city or the town, or where ever I am in the world.

AZNikon Loc: Mesa, AZ

I knew better than to click on this topic and yet I did it anyway. Must be the Coronavirus syndrome.

carney2

Do whatever you like. I have a friend who is a cell phone junkie and does not own a "real" camera. His argument is that it is always with him and he never misses a shot. And he gets acceptable photos. His argument is valid, but he never gets great photos. He holds the camera in his hand and shows off his latest effort and then maybe emails it to a group of someones. Then what? Nothing ever comes out of the phone and goes on the wall. I look at it as a photographer with a camera vs. a snap shooter with a phone.