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May 26, 2020 10:09:13   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
jlocke wrote:
As the D7200 is older than the D7500, it makes sense that the opposite is true.

The differences I see on the Nikkor Lens Compatibility Chart are:

AI Lens
D7200-Full Compatibility
D7500-Limited Compatibility (Exposure cannot be metered TTL. Must use a light meter)

AF-P Lens
D7200-Limited Compatibility (May require a firmware update)
D7500-Full Compatibility

E-Type Lens
D7200-Full Compatibility
D7500-Full Compatibility (Some restrictions apply to PC/PC-E lenses)

AF, AF-S Lens
Both are fully compatible
As the D7200 is older than the D7500, it makes sen... (show quote)

Thank you. I only mentioned whether the lenses will mount and can be used. It is good news for those older guys who kept their lenses from the Nikon F days who are tired of the dim viewfinder (using older eyes) on the entry level bodies. I cannot imagine that was why Nikon made the change as that would appeal to a very small market, but I welcome it. The relatively young age of the models in the D7000 line compared with pre-Ai lenses is probably not significant as these are all much newer cameras compared with the lenses I bought second-hand in the early 1970s.



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May 26, 2020 10:18:52   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
BebuLamar wrote:
But it won't meter with either while the D7200 would meter with the AI/AI-s lenses. So that makes the D7500 equal to the D5xxx and D3xxx series in this regard. Also you may be able to use Pre-AI lenses on the D7500 without damaging it but not recommended by Nikon.

Nikon would prefer we bought everything new every time. They do not recommend I use these old lenses on anything unless I buy a Df, but they work fine on a D3200. If I had that kind camera budget I would bother with none of these, certainly not a starter camera or even a D7500. But until I retire and can make better use of sometime like a D750, Z7, etc. I make do. Nikon, or someone, will get my new camera money eventually.

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May 26, 2020 10:19:13   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
"Comments and tips from users"

thomabob12 The D7200 has a higher resolution sensor with 24-megapixels. verses the 21-megapixel sensor on the D7500, there is no denying that the extra 14 percent of pixels are important if you create large format prints for your clients.

The D7200 battery life is greater… (1110 vs 950)

The D7200 has better IQ than the D7500 a.k.a. color depth (24.5 vs 24.3) and better dynamic range (14.6 vs 14) albeit the D7500 has a tad better low light proformance.

From DxOmark
https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D7200-versus-Nikon-D7500___1020_1161

The D7200 has NFC (Near Field Communication) while the D7500 does not albeit it does have Bluetooth.

The D7200 also has two storage slots compared to the D7500's single storage slot.
This is a HUGE deal breaker for commercial shooters.

Ths D7200 accepts a battery grip while the D7500 is crippled since it doesn’t allow for this component. Again a HUGE deal breaker for those who are commercial sport shooters… Ergonomics are vastly improved for those who must shoot high end telephoto glass. Trust me, I can't balance my AF-S 200-400mm f/4 VR on my Wimberley Gimbal without the MB-D15 on my D7200, and the D7500 is even lighter

The D7200 has a rugged magnesium alloy body, while the D7500 has a plastic body.

What’s to love about the D7500?

A touchscreen LCD that articulates

Faster Frame Rate (extra 2 fps)

Deeper Buffer

Better video resolution and Bluetooth.

Unlike the D500 both the D7500 and D7200 have a built-in flash which can serve as an optical trigger for off camera flash.

Bottom Line? If you shoot weddings or sports commercially the D7500 simply isn’t an option. However if you’re a hobbyist the D7500 may be just your cup of tea.

My choice? I’m a commercial shooter and have two D7200’s with MB-D15 Battery Grips

Hope this helps thomabob12 and welcome to the UHH!

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May 26, 2020 10:27:35   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"Comments and tips from users"

thomabob12 The D7200 has a higher resolution sensor with 24-megapixels. verses the 21-megapixel sensor on the D7500, there is no denying that the extra 14 percent of pixels are important if you create large format prints for your clients.

The D7200 battery life is greater… (1110 vs 950)

The D7200 has better IQ than the D7500 a.k.a. color depth (24.5 vs 24.3) and better dynamic range (14.6 vs 14) albeit the D7500 has a tad better low light proformance.

From DxOmark
https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D7200-versus-Nikon-D7500___1020_1161

The D7200 has NFC (Near Field Communication) while the D7500 does not albeit it does have Bluetooth.

The D7200 also has two storage slots compared to the D7500's single storage slot.
This is a HUGE deal breaker for commercial shooters.

Ths D7200 accepts a battery grip while the D7500 is crippled since it doesn’t allow for this component. Again a HUGE deal breaker for those who are commercial sport shooters… Ergonomics are vastly improved for those who must shoot high end telephoto glass. Trust me, I can't balance my AF-S 200-400mm f/2.8 VR on my Wimberley Gimbal without the MB-D15 on my D7200, and the D7500 is even lighter

The D7200 has a rugged magnesium alloy body, while the D7500 has a plastic body.

What’s to love about the D7500?

A touchscreen LCD that articulates

Faster Frame Rate (extra 2 fps)

Deeper Buffer

Better video resolution and Bluetooth.

Unlike the D500 both the D7500 and D7200 have a built-in flash which can serve as an optical trigger for off camera flash.

Bottom Line? If you shoot weddings or sports commercially the D7500 simply isn’t an option. However if you’re a hobbyist the D7500 may be just your cup of tea.

My choice? I’m a commercial shooter and have two D7200’s with MB-D15 Battery Grips

Hope this helps thomabob12 and welcome to the UHH!
"Comments and tips from users" br br t... (show quote)

Great summary and a good example of the often vastly differing needs between working pros and occasional hobbyists.

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May 26, 2020 10:53:48   #
marklevisay Loc: Central Virginia
 
thomabob12 wrote:
Comments and tips from users


I have had the D7500 for over a year. Very pleased overall. (I generally use the 16-80 mm lens with it) The sensor seems excellent with low noise even at high ISO. I've found I need to use +0.3, or even +0.7 exposure comp to get correct exposure, but the dynamic range of RAW images is impressive. Many seem to complain about 1 SD card slot as opposed to the 2 slots D7000, 7100 and 7200 have. I never used the 2nd slot on my D7000 as I just shoot RAW and process in Lightroom.

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May 26, 2020 12:59:57   #
aweisbach Loc: Omaha Nebraska
 
When struggling to decide what to replace my D7100 with (D7200 or D7500) I choose the D7200 because I liked having the higher resolution, the dual slots AND Nikon took away the depth of field preview button on the D7500. I don't use that button a lot but when I do I really appreciate it.

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May 26, 2020 13:04:36   #
tdozier3 Loc: Northern Illinois
 
kcooke wrote:
It’s the second best crop frame Nikon makes right now. Highly regarded. Look at camera decision on the web to get info and performance specs. Some will say the D7200 is better. Today it’s on sale at B&H for $1196.95 with a 18-55. And a 70-300. Both are VR DX lens.


Awesome camera. Don't be swayed by the MP difference of the D7200. The newer and better processor makes up for it. Unless you have a dire need for "dual card slots", and a big bulky battery grip , the better camera is the D7500.

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May 26, 2020 13:22:40   #
Kodiako
 
Had mine for just over a year and absolutely love it. I am not a Pro but longtime Photo enthusiast.

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May 26, 2020 13:39:29   #
Rmccully
 
I have Nikon 7000, 7100, 7200, and 7500. Love the 7500 because of the articulating LCD screen AND it allows for up to 10 multiple exposures. The 7200 and 7100 have amaximum of three multiple exposure shots into a single image. This feature is essential for me. Plan to use the 7100 as a backup camera and the 7200 will be converted to Infrared.

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May 26, 2020 14:58:35   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
D7500 owner. (last camera d7100)
For various reasons I never liked my d7100.
I love the 7500.
Card slots: only one. Don't care. Never needed two.
Megapixels: Comparing 24 to 20 is this case makes no sense. The 7500 is an upgrade and the IQ and color rendition is better. You can make prints of any size from either camera if the file is sharp and the exposure is right. Don't get hung up on megapixels.
Feel of grip: The 7500 grip is deeper and it is the best feeling camera I have ever had.
7500 to d500: No flash on 500. I use the d7500 flash to trip two portable nikon flash units. It would costs quite a bit to have to buy radio triggers. (although they are nice)
Battery Grip: I don't need one anymore (I am a photo tour guide, or used to be when there were tourists and cruise ships) but when I used to do weddings I used one on my F3.
Bottom line: If you don't need a battery grip I would go for the 7500 over the 7200. Newer. Better software. Better feel.
...Cam

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May 26, 2020 16:38:48   #
CO
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"Comments and tips from users"

thomabob12 The D7200 has a higher resolution sensor with 24-megapixels. verses the 21-megapixel sensor on the D7500, there is no denying that the extra 14 percent of pixels are important if you create large format prints for your clients.

The D7200 battery life is greater… (1110 vs 950)

The D7200 has better IQ than the D7500 a.k.a. color depth (24.5 vs 24.3) and better dynamic range (14.6 vs 14) albeit the D7500 has a tad better low light proformance.

From DxOmark
https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D7200-versus-Nikon-D7500___1020_1161

The D7200 has NFC (Near Field Communication) while the D7500 does not albeit it does have Bluetooth.

The D7200 also has two storage slots compared to the D7500's single storage slot.
This is a HUGE deal breaker for commercial shooters.

Ths D7200 accepts a battery grip while the D7500 is crippled since it doesn’t allow for this component. Again a HUGE deal breaker for those who are commercial sport shooters… Ergonomics are vastly improved for those who must shoot high end telephoto glass. Trust me, I can't balance my AF-S 200-400mm f/4 VR on my Wimberley Gimbal without the MB-D15 on my D7200, and the D7500 is even lighter

The D7200 has a rugged magnesium alloy body, while the D7500 has a plastic body.

What’s to love about the D7500?

A touchscreen LCD that articulates

Faster Frame Rate (extra 2 fps)

Deeper Buffer

Better video resolution and Bluetooth.

Unlike the D500 both the D7500 and D7200 have a built-in flash which can serve as an optical trigger for off camera flash.

Bottom Line? If you shoot weddings or sports commercially the D7500 simply isn’t an option. However if you’re a hobbyist the D7500 may be just your cup of tea.

My choice? I’m a commercial shooter and have two D7200’s with MB-D15 Battery Grips

Hope this helps thomabob12 and welcome to the UHH!
"Comments and tips from users" br br t... (show quote)


The dynamic range advantage of the D7200 over the D7500 is at low ISO's. Starting at ISO 300, the D7500 has the advantage all the way to the maximum ISO.

You're saying that the D7500 has a plastic body but a distinction should be made. The D7500 has a carbon fiber body. It's carbon fibers in a resin. Most other cameras have a polycarbonate body.

The D7500 has the very useful Group-Area AF. Excellent for wildlife. The D7200 doesn't have it. The D7500 has the newer 180,000 pixel metering system. The D7200 has the older 2,016 pixel metering system.

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May 26, 2020 22:39:07   #
Jomisamson
 
kcooke wrote:
I don’t know if you are responding to me since you did not use quote reply. If you were replying to my post then I would say that many folks on UHH think the D7200 is a better choice. At least that is what I read in the threads. BTW I’m not plugging anything. I used to shoot Nikon gear but now I shoot with full frame and mirrorless Canon equipment. My wife shoots with a Nikon D3500 which is a great little budget camera BTW. Thanks and have a good day


Hmmm - just a little curious - why did you switch from Nikon to Canon? I have been a Canon man for a long time, not sure why. Lately, now that I'm getting back into photo after quite a layoff, I wonder if I should stay with Canon or switch to Nikon. I know there's good and bad in both camps, but I've always been a bit disenchanted with the available lens selection and conservatism of Canon, (I think when I began years ago, Nikon was too) especially at the long end. I generally feel like staying with Canon lenses for Canon, but feel like I need to consider Sigma or Tamron to get the range I want even if I sacrifice some sharpness, but that doesn't make sense either.

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May 27, 2020 01:47:49   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Best DSLR DX Nikon makes. (D500 doesn't even have a built-in flash!)


No pro level camera has built in flash.

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May 27, 2020 08:37:12   #
BebuLamar
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
No pro level camera has built in flash.


Nikon trend is to eliminate the built in flash. It used to be only the top of the line that doesn't have the built in flash. Then they didn't put the built in flash in the Df then the D500 then the D850 and now the D780.

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May 27, 2020 11:08:49   #
kcooke Loc: Alabama
 
[quote=Jomisamson]Hmmm - just a little curious - why did you switch from Nikon to Canon?

To me Nikons and Canons are like Chevys and Fords. They will both do about the same thing. The biggest thing to me to change was menus and button layout. At the time I had a Nikon D80 and D200 that I had gotten new sometime before 2010. I was on a strict budget but wanted a full frame camera. I had to buy used and at the time I could not find a Nikon used at my price point which was $600 or less.

I sold both Nikons and gave 6 lenses to my wife who had a D3100 at the time. I bought a very used Canon 5d Mk II with about 150,000 actuations on the shutter and a nifty 50 lens for $500. I’ve since purchased 5 lenses to cover my needs, a Canon 6D MK II , a Canon 7D and a Canon M5 with adapter for regular Canon lenses. The things i like about the Canon system is the integration of wireless control vs Nikon, the touch screens and Q buttons for selection of parameters when shooting, the focusing system and Some of the L Lenses. I do believe in general that the Nikons have better dynamic range .

If I had stayed with Nikon I would probably own a D750 right now. I shot one about a year ago and thought it was be a very good camera. Again I feel that both brands will take great photographs if the photographer does their part. Just for reference, I am probably at the intermediate enthusiast level. I don’t shoot for money just enjoyment.

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