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May 27, 2020 11:31:57   #
Jomisamson
 
Thank for your comments. Out of curiosity, have you had any experience with Sigma or Tamron lenses?

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May 27, 2020 13:25:58   #
kcooke Loc: Alabama
 
Jomisamson wrote:
Thank for your comments. Out of curiosity, have you had any experience with Sigma or Tamron lenses?


Not the long lenses. There is a guy on here his name is Gene51. He is most helpful and knows a lot about the long lenses in general. Especially the sigma products. Search for the lens in the search function and look for his replies or go to his info and click on his posts. There will be I do there

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May 27, 2020 15:33:58   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Nikon trend is to eliminate the built in flash. It used to be only the top of the line that doesn't have the built in flash. Then they didn't put the built in flash in the Df then the D500 then the D850 and now the D780.


I agree, and i don't like Nikon's trend in eliminating the flash with every new camera that comes out, it's such a critical part of still photography. The Df was billed as a retro, pure still photography machine. Which is why they say they eliminated the video... But the flash also?

It doesn't matter how great a camera shoots in ridiclulously high iso, it's not going to put catch lights in a subjects eyes. The onboard flash is the artist's tool to complete the photograph weather it's for people, animals and pet photo's. Just because a new camera comes out without a flash doesn't make it a professional model. I think it's a lame brain decision on Nikon's part.

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May 27, 2020 21:15:18   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Ched49 wrote:
I agree, and i don't like Nikon's trend in eliminating the flash with every new camera that comes out, it's such a critical part of still photography. The Df was billed as a retro, pure still photography machine. Which is why they say they eliminated the video... But the flash also?

It doesn't matter how great a camera shoots in ridiclulously high iso, it's not going to put catch lights in a subjects eyes. The onboard flash is the artist's tool to complete the photograph weather it's for people, animals and pet photo's. Just because a new camera comes out without a flash doesn't make it a professional model. I think it's a lame brain decision on Nikon's part.
I agree, and i don't like Nikon's trend in elimina... (show quote)


I don’t know why everyone thinks this is a Nikon thing. The top cameras from Canon and Sony are also flashless, as is my Panasonic G9. Pop up direct flash makes for ugly photos. It’s really only useful for fill flash or triggering external flashes. I guess they assume that if someone is shelling out for the top cameras they would rather shell out a little more for a good external flash rather than take crappy flash photos.

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May 27, 2020 22:00:38   #
kcooke Loc: Alabama
 
[quote=SuperflyTNT]I don’t know why everyone thinks this is a Nikon thing. The top cameras from Canon and Sony are also

Just FYI. The two top crop sensor DSLR Canons 7d MK II and 90D both have built in flashes. I’m not a fan of these type flashes though.

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May 27, 2020 22:24:04   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I don’t know why everyone thinks this is a Nikon thing. The top cameras from Canon and Sony are also flashless, as is my Panasonic G9. Pop up direct flash makes for ugly photos. It’s really only useful for fill flash or triggering external flashes. I guess they assume that if someone is shelling out for the top cameras they would rather shell out a little more for a good external flash rather than take crappy flash photos.


Never said it was just a Nikon thing did i Superfly? Yea, your right, it's only useful for fill flash and besides, they take crappy photo's. I guess people don't mind carrying around external flashes.

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May 28, 2020 00:34:26   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Ched49 wrote:
Never said it was just a Nikon thing did i Superfly? Yea, your right, it's only useful for fill flash and besides, they take crappy photo's. I guess people don't mind carrying around external flashes.


Your exact words: “ I agree, and i don't like Nikon's trend in eliminating the flash with every new camera that comes out”. Sounds like to me you’re saying it’s a Nikon thing.

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May 28, 2020 00:46:55   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
[quote=kcooke]
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I don’t know why everyone thinks this is a Nikon thing. The top cameras from Canon and Sony are also

Just FYI. The two top crop sensor DSLR Canons 7d MK II and 90D both have built in flashes. I’m not a fan of these type flashes though.


Canon considers those intermediate level cameras. Nikon also includes pop up flash on their intermediate cameras.

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May 28, 2020 02:08:20   #
kcooke Loc: Alabama
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Canon considers those intermediate level cameras. Nikon also includes pop up flash on their intermediate cameras.


Canon considers the 7D MK II as their professional crop sensor camera in their literature. It has a magnesium alloy body and weather sealing. Calling a 7D MK II an intermediate camera is like calling a Nikon D500 an intermediate camera. They both serve the same market segment for sports and wildlife shooting

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May 28, 2020 03:27:52   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
kcooke wrote:
Canon considers the 7D MK II as their professional crop sensor camera in their literature. It has a magnesium alloy body and weather sealing. Calling a 7D MK II an intermediate camera is like calling a Nikon D500 an intermediate camera. They both serve the same market segment for sports and wildlife shooting


I’m going straight off the Canon site. Filter on intermediate cameras on the 7D is listed. Filter on Advanced and it’s not. It’s also 6 years old. The trend away from built in flash is more recent.

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May 28, 2020 05:32:16   #
BebuLamar
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I don’t know why everyone thinks this is a Nikon thing. The top cameras from Canon and Sony are also flashless, as is my Panasonic G9. Pop up direct flash makes for ugly photos. It’s really only useful for fill flash or triggering external flashes. I guess they assume that if someone is shelling out for the top cameras they would rather shell out a little more for a good external flash rather than take crappy flash photos.


I said it's a Nikon trend whether others do the same or not but I meant it's a trend recently. Before only the top is flashless. So I said there is a trend toward no built in flash. I am not familiar with other cameras so I listed the Nikon that have no built in flash. Their Z6 and Z7 don't have built in flash either.
Unlike others I don't like built in flash. In fact I wouldn't buy the Df if it has built in flash.

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May 28, 2020 10:20:10   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Your exact words: “ I agree, and i don't like Nikon's trend in eliminating the flash with every new camera that comes out”. Sounds like to me you’re saying it’s a Nikon thing.


OMG, we happened to be talking about the D7800, the name of this thread is D7500.

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May 28, 2020 11:16:30   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Ched49 wrote:
OMG, we happened to be talking about the D7800, the name of this thread is D7500.


There is no D7800.

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May 28, 2020 12:19:17   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"Comments and tips from users"

thomabob12 The D7200 has a higher resolution sensor with 24-megapixels. verses the 21-megapixel sensor on the D7500, there is no denying that the extra 14 percent of pixels are important if you create large format prints for your clients.

The D7200 battery life is greater… (1110 vs 950)

The D7200 has better IQ than the D7500 a.k.a. color depth (24.5 vs 24.3) and better dynamic range (14.6 vs 14) albeit the D7500 has a tad better low light proformance.

From DxOmark
https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D7200-versus-Nikon-D7500___1020_1161

The D7200 has NFC (Near Field Communication) while the D7500 does not albeit it does have Bluetooth.

The D7200 also has two storage slots compared to the D7500's single storage slot.
This is a HUGE deal breaker for commercial shooters.

Ths D7200 accepts a battery grip while the D7500 is crippled since it doesn’t allow for this component. Again a HUGE deal breaker for those who are commercial sport shooters… Ergonomics are vastly improved for those who must shoot high end telephoto glass. Trust me, I can't balance my AF-S 200-400mm f/4 VR on my Wimberley Gimbal without the MB-D15 on my D7200, and the D7500 is even lighter

The D7200 has a rugged magnesium alloy body, while the D7500 has a plastic body.

What’s to love about the D7500?

A touchscreen LCD that articulates

Faster Frame Rate (extra 2 fps)

Deeper Buffer

Better video resolution and Bluetooth.

Unlike the D500 both the D7500 and D7200 have a built-in flash which can serve as an optical trigger for off camera flash.

Bottom Line? If you shoot weddings or sports commercially the D7500 simply isn’t an option. However if you’re a hobbyist the D7500 may be just your cup of tea.

My choice? I’m a commercial shooter and have two D7200’s with MB-D15 Battery Grips

Hope this helps thomabob12 and welcome to the UHH!
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A couple of things that you missed about the D7500. The D7500 has the same processor as both the D500 and D5, which the D7200 does not. It has the same low-light capability as the D500, which makes it, along with the D500, Nikon's second best low light camera, next to the D5. Except for AF, it is essentially a D500, but smaller. The D7200 and D7500 are both outstanding cameras. When purchasing a DSLR for my daughter they were the two cameras that my selection came down to. Based upon her photographic needs of shooting the sports activities of her sons, Steve Perry recommended the D7500 over the D7200. If she had been primarily a landscape, portrait, or still photographer, the nod would have gone to the D7200.

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May 28, 2020 17:57:33   #
CO
 
SteveR wrote:
A couple of things that you missed about the D7500. The D7500 has the same processor as both the D500 and D5, which the D7200 does not. It has the same low-light capability as the D500, which makes it, along with the D500, Nikon's second best low light camera, next to the D5. Except for AF, it is essentially a D500, but smaller. The D7200 and D7500 are both outstanding cameras. When purchasing a DSLR for my daughter they were the two cameras that my selection came down to. Based upon her photographic needs of shooting the sports activities of her sons, Steve Perry recommended the D7500 over the D7200. If she had been primarily a landscape, portrait, or still photographer, the nod would have gone to the D7200.
A couple of things that you missed about the D7500... (show quote)


I like that they added Group-Area AF to the D7500 also. It's great for wildlife and sports. It also has the ISO button right behind the shutter button also. Sometimes, you have to make changes to ISO quickly for the scene. The ISO button location makes it faster.

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