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May 18, 2020 12:42:01   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Lucian wrote:
...Get yourself an old copy of CS6, which you keep and use forever ... and you will always be able to access them.


Until you update to a new OS which will not handle CS6. "Progress" happens.

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May 18, 2020 13:02:37   #
lorvey Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
Phil Martin wrote:
Photoshop is NOT indispensable. Period.



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May 18, 2020 13:35:33   #
lesdmd Loc: Middleton Wi via N.Y.C. & Cleveland
 
Phil Martin wrote:
Photoshop is NOT indispensable. Period.

and lorvey responded with 3 thumbs up.

At least two members of Uglyhedgehog who are so dogmatic that they cannot understand that just because a product is dispensable for them it may not be for others. I wonder how being that opinionated extends over to other aspects of their lives?

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May 18, 2020 13:50:48   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
lesdmd wrote:
Phil Martin wrote:
Photoshop is NOT indispensable. Period.

and lorvey responded with 3 thumbs up.

At least two members of Uglyhedgehog who are so dogmatic that they cannot understand that just because a product is dispensable for them it may not be for others. I wonder how being that opinionated extends over to other aspects of their lives?


There are a lot of things that are not indispensible, (double negative, i.e. you could do without them). Photoshop is among them. Indispensible items are things like food, water, shelter.
I did without Photoshop until about 2000.
If necessary, I could do without it again. But it would not be a pleasant existence.
While I do not use Photoshop to excess (a subjective claim if there ever was one), probably 10% of my images go through it one way or another.

So, technically, Photoshop is dispensible. But as long as I am able to use it, I will. So, practically speaking, it's indispensible.

YMMV, and that's OK.

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May 18, 2020 13:52:59   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
DWU2 wrote:
You will be able to edit metadata, print and export, but the Develop and Map modules will be disabled.


Following up on my prior comment (above), I would further suggest:
- If you cancel your Adobe Creative Creative Cloud subscription, leave Lightroom on your PC so you won't lose access to your completed edits. You'll be able to export your edited photos to JPG's, TIF's, or other formats when you choose to.
- Assuming you take further photos or want to re-edit your old ones, you'll need an editor going forward. Some suggestions:
- https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/buying-guides/best-free-photo-editing-software describes various free photo editing programs.
- Photopea, found at https://www.photopea.com/ is a free online Photoshop emulator.
- Or, alternately, look at photo editors with a moderate one-time cost to purchase, such as Luminar 4 , Paintshop Pro, Photoshop Elements, or On1 Photo Raw.

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May 18, 2020 13:57:00   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Here's a question I don't know the answer to but might be worth some discussion:

If you stop paying, you will not be able to use the develop module in Lightroom (after 30 days).
However, LR enables external editing. Default is sending an image to Photoshop, but other software can be enabled.
So if you drop the subscription, can you still right-click on an image and choose "Edit in" directed to some other software?

That would give you the organizational advantages of LR coupled with the ability to edit your photos.

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May 18, 2020 14:05:29   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
Guys, I really want to thank you all for the advice. Many threads here dissolve into verbal abuse - or at least advice on doing something else which was not asked for. This one has been a great help to me.

I followed along on some of it, and downloaded Affinity Photo - at $25 it was certainly worth a try! I then took the plunge and cut the cord with Adobe. They offered me 2 months free, but what would be the point?

I did find it amusing that the instruction manual or 'work-book' for Affinity is $45 - almost twice the (discounted) price of the program! I should be able to figure things out without that. There's always youtube if all else fails.

Thank you all again!

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May 18, 2020 14:08:00   #
lesdmd Loc: Middleton Wi via N.Y.C. & Cleveland
 
[quote=DirtFarmer]There are a lot of things that are not indispensible, (double negative, i.e. you could do without them). Photoshop is among them. Indispensible items are things like food, water, shelter.
I did without Photoshop until about 2000.
If necessary, I could do without it again. But it would not be a pleasant existence.
While I do not use Photoshop to excess (a subjective claim if there ever was one), probably 10% of my images go through it one way or another.

So, technically, Photoshop is dispensible. But as long as I am able to use it, I will. So, practically speaking, it's indispensible.

Of course you are correct.

The discussion was narrowly limited to "Photo processing software". In the context of the topic, to claim that all people could do without a specific product is as ridiculous as claiming that a computer like device is not indispensable for post processing.

And on topic, I prefer Photoshop, I could live and breath without it, and I could even do most of what I would like with something like Affinity Photo. As of today, and I am in the process of evaluating the latest version of the Serif software, I am not keen on learning its different ways of doing what I already know how to do in Adobe, nor have I yet found it possible to do everything I do in Photoshop.

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May 18, 2020 14:38:32   #
azdustdevil
 
[quote=lesdmd]
DirtFarmer wrote:
There are a lot of things that are not indispensible, (double negative, i.e. you could do without them). Photoshop is among them. Indispensible items are things like food, water, shelter.
I did without Photoshop until about 2000.
If necessary, I could do without it again. But it would not be a pleasant existence.
While I do not use Photoshop to excess (a subjective claim if there ever was one), probably 10% of my images go through it one way or another.

So, technically, Photoshop is dispensible. But as long as I am able to use it, I will. So, practically speaking, it's indispensible.

Of course you are correct.

The discussion was narrowly limited to "Photo processing software". In the context of the topic, to claim that all people could do without a specific product is as ridiculous as claiming that a computer like device is not indispensable for post processing.

And on topic, I prefer Photoshop, I could live and breath without it, and I could even do most of what I would like with something like Affinity Photo. As of today, and I am in the process of evaluating the latest version of the Serif software, I am not keen on learning its different ways of doing what I already know how to do in Adobe, nor have I yet found it possible to do everything I do in Photoshop.
There are a lot of things that are not indispensib... (show quote)

I never bought into the Adobe subscription crap, and glad of it. Affinity works just fine along with LR software installed on my computer.

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May 18, 2020 14:48:28   #
chevman Loc: Matthews, North Carolina
 
Bloke wrote:
Guys, I really want to thank you all for the advice. Many threads here dissolve into verbal abuse - or at least advice on doing something else which was not asked for. This one has been a great help to me.

I followed along on some of it, and downloaded Affinity Photo - at $25 it was certainly worth a try! I then took the plunge and cut the cord with Adobe. They offered me 2 months free, but what would be the point?

I did find it amusing that the instruction manual or 'work-book' for Affinity is $45 - almost twice the (discounted) price of the program! I should be able to figure things out without that. There's always youtube if all else fails.

Thank you all again!
Guys, I really want to thank you all for the advic... (show quote)


Bloke, you can go to the Affinity web site and navigate around a bit until you find where the video tutorials are. Also there are lots of tutorials on youtube and many of them are excellent. There are also Affinity forums which can also be very helpful. Here is a link to the site https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/
when you get there, you’ll find that you can explore the forums, video tutorials, etc. You can become a member of the forum and ask questions, or maybe find the answer to a question you have that someone else previously asked.

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May 18, 2020 14:48:41   #
mizcaliflower
 
If you look around enough, you can still find Ps Elements. Sometimes you can even find the actual software. (not just a download) It definitely doesn't have "everything" that CS has, but it does support CR2 files with adobe camera RAW. Check at B&H.
https://bhphoto.com
I'm sorry about your health issues. I pray you heal/get well again.

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May 18, 2020 14:51:26   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
mizcaliflower wrote:
If you look around enough, you can still find Ps Elements. Sometimes you can even find the actual software. (not just a download) It definitely doesn't have "everything" that CS has, but it does support CR2 files with adobe camera RAW. Check at B&H.
https://bhphoto.com
I'm sorry about your health issues. I pray you heal/get well again.


Not sure what you mean about still being able to find Elements - It's not been discontinued as far as I know: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=photoshop+elements+2020&crid=K6O4FMMELYDK&sprefix=photoshop+elements%2Caps%2C344&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_18

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May 18, 2020 15:18:31   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
Bloke wrote:
My health issues have basically killed my photography. It's been over a year since I took a photograph with my 'proper' gear... At some point, I will see about selling some of the camera stuff, but that isn't my current worry. I have had the Adobe 'photographers package' right from the very beginning, but I really do not need to be paying every month for it any more. I know it's not a lot, but it now seems to be a waste.

My biggest concern is, what happens to my existing collection of photos, if I quit the subscription? Not storage - they are all on my PC, not in the cloud. I have thousands of photos, mostly CR2 or dng formats.

Will I be able to still access them if needed, once I cut the cord with Adobe?

Thanks in advance.
My health issues have basically killed my photogra... (show quote)


You answered your own question. "they are all on my PC". What else do you need to know?

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May 18, 2020 15:31:48   #
lesdmd Loc: Middleton Wi via N.Y.C. & Cleveland
 
azdustdevil wrote:
I never bought into the Adobe subscription crap, and glad of it. Affinity works just fine along with LR software installed on my computer.


You do not need it. You do not want it. No need to buy it. What you call crap is a bargain to me.

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May 18, 2020 15:34:05   #
azdustdevil
 
To you, maybe so. Not to me. To each his own.

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