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May 19, 2020 00:47:48   #
Carusoswi
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Seems like you've got the horse before the cart on this one ....

You probably should have visited all the candidate software and downloaded and evaluated each software in a sequential investigation, exhausting the free trial period of each software before moving onto the next candidate. During each trial period, you should:

a) Confirm the migration path of your current images into the the new software. Will the new software accept DNGs from LR, or 16-TIFF, or XML side cards, etc?

b) For a test case of 10 to 100 existing and edited images, how does the new software compare for each of use, end-result, acceptance of migrated edits, continuation of migrated edits, processing of new images created during the trail period?

c) How is the available video training, the free kind, for the software?

d) How does the software operate on your current equipment? Is it stable, is it acceptably fast?

e) Your image workflow will change, of course, but does it remain consistent for a similar (or shorter) amount of time and mental effort to achieve the same or better result?

You shouldn't be cancelling anything until you've accessed these 5 dimensions of a replacement software. You should also determine, plan and successfully complete the actual migration of your existing image portfolio into the new software before advising Adobe to cancel your subscription.
Seems like you've got the horse before the cart on... (show quote)


Actually, Adobe imposes no lifetime ban on re-upping a subscription once cancelled. If the OP cancels his subscription and later experiences "canceler's" remorse, he is free to subscribe again. Why all this fanboy defense of Adobe. I don't get it.

Caruso

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May 19, 2020 06:10:08   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Carusoswi wrote:
Which new OS, and why would one need to update if updating would eliminate use of CS6? Just curious.

Caruso


The reason to update your OS is computer security. An outdated OS can be subject to internet threats. There’s no reason for anyone to accommodate antique software when addressing new threats.

CS6 may work fine now but there is no guarantee that it will work forever. At some point in the future you may have to do all your work offline.

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May 19, 2020 12:01:24   #
Carusoswi
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
The reason to update your OS is computer security. An outdated OS can be subject to internet threats. There’s no reason for anyone to accommodate antique software when addressing new threats.

CS6 may work fine now but there is no guarantee that it will work forever. At some point in the future you may have to do all your work offline.


There is no guarantee that CS6 will work forever, but, for now, and the foreseeable future, it will work. Windows allows one to run older software in modes that support previous software versions. For now, I suspect that CS6 works in Windows 10, period. I do not know for certain, but other posters here can confirm yes or how they run CS6 so that it works in Windows 10.

CS6 is hardly antique, but if you have a valid copy of CS6, there is a very good reason to support that version.

I do not use CS6 (have a version of CS4 that still runs under Windows 10), and I absolutely do now and will always do all of my work offline. I have no motivation to do my work in the cloud. YMMV, but MM is mine.

Caruso

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May 19, 2020 12:02:54   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Carusoswi wrote:
There is no guarantee that CS6 will work forever, but, for now, and the foreseeable future, it will work. Windows allows one to run older software in modes that support previous software versions. For now, I suspect that CS6 works in Windows 10, period. I do not know for certain, but other posters here can confirm yes or how they run CS6 so that it works in Windows 10.

CS6 is hardly antique, but if you have a valid copy of CS6, there is a very good reason to support that version.

I do not use CS6 (have a version of CS4 that still runs under Windows 10), and I absolutely do now and will always do all of my work offline. I have no motivation to do my work in the cloud. YMMV, but MM is mine.

Caruso
There is no guarantee that CS6 will work forever, ... (show quote)


And the Mac users, what's your trite response to them about using unsupported software?

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May 19, 2020 15:05:32   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Carusoswi wrote:
...I absolutely do now and will always do all of my work offline. I have no motivation to do my work in the cloud....


I didn't mean working offline, I meant keeping your computer offline. Always. Any time your computer is exposed to the internet, it needs the latest security patches on your OS. And clearly at least one of your computers is online, or you wouldn't be posting.

And "working in the cloud" is for people who are working mobile. I don't do much work in the cloud now, but when I was running the farm, a lot of things were done online, and even in the cloud. e.g. keeping track of irrigation zones. Much better done by a smartphone than trying to keep a notebook or a pile of 3x5 cards with the information on them. Paper gets wet working outdoors, either from external sources (rain or irrigation) or from internal sources (sweat). And wet paper is not a good storage medium, while the cloud works fine, and keeps the data where you can access it wherever you are.

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May 20, 2020 04:44:46   #
Carusoswi
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
And the Mac users, what's your trite response to them about using unsupported software?


My 'trite response' to MAC users is the same as to users of any OS. If unsupported software is useful to you, use it for as long as it works, supported or not. The suggestion for PS6 (not my suggestion, by the way), was to offer the OP an alternative to the CC subscription model. Finding and transferring a used license may be more trouble to the OP than he finds it worth, but if he is successful, then more power to him.

Caruso

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May 20, 2020 05:12:31   #
Carusoswi
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I didn't mean working offline, I meant keeping your computer offline. Always. Any time your computer is exposed to the internet, it needs the latest security patches on your OS. And clearly at least one of your computers is online, or you wouldn't be posting.

And "working in the cloud" is for people who are working mobile. I don't do much work in the cloud now, but when I was running the farm, a lot of things were done online, and even in the cloud. e.g. keeping track of irrigation zones. Much better done by a smartphone than trying to keep a notebook or a pile of 3x5 cards with the information on them. Paper gets wet working outdoors, either from external sources (rain or irrigation) or from internal sources (sweat). And wet paper is not a good storage medium, while the cloud works fine, and keeps the data where you can access it wherever you are.
I didn't mean working offline, I meant keeping you... (show quote)


. . . and clearly, I am running Windows 10, security updates for which are pushed out to me automatically by MS. I run appropriate anti-virus and anti-malware applications, however, except when I need to communicate to my colleagues via Outlook, I spend little time online via Windows, preferring to connect via my Linux OS which is inherently more secure, no anti-anything required. I always keep my Linux version current, although there are no security issues that require me to do so. Plenty of users run older versions without issue.

I also do most of my photo work from within Linux (darktable/GIMP), although I did maintain a CC subscription from its inception until January of this year. My reason for cancelling CC? I simply was not using it. When in Windows, I might use Capture One, a RAW editor which I feel is very capable, but I am still more comfortable with darktable/GIMP which are always free to acquire, free to update, free to upgrade, and they work very well for me (they also work in Windows).

I do not hate Windows or CC. I have run some version of Windows since version 3.0. I don't recall Windows 7 or Windows 10 ever having crashed on my system. Those versions were/are very stable.
As for unsupported software, I keep installed and use for my work MS Works (version 8.0), because I developed within its database module a costing routine that greatly increased my productivity and accuracy. I developed that little routine using version 2.0 back in 1991, and have refined it as MS introduced newer versions of Works. It is still my favorite tool for costing in the work that I do, and runs fine in Windows 10. MS stopped supporting it around 2009.

I don't hate Apple, either, but my last Apple was the IIC, so I can offer little relevant comment on their current systems. Early on, I switch to the PC platform because, for me, it offered a wider array of software, and the platform seemed to offer more bang for my buck. Additionally, I could buy components and install them, myself.

Caruso

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May 20, 2020 15:07:38   #
Nickaroo
 
Bloke wrote:
My health issues have basically killed my photography. It's been over a year since I took a photograph with my 'proper' gear... At some point, I will see about selling some of the camera stuff, but that isn't my current worry. I have had the Adobe 'photographers package' right from the very beginning, but I really do not need to be paying every month for it any more. I know it's not a lot, but it now seems to be a waste.

My biggest concern is, what happens to my existing collection of photos, if I quit the subscription? Not storage - they are all on my PC, not in the cloud. I have thousands of photos, mostly CR2 or dng formats.

Will I be able to still access them if needed, once I cut the cord with Adobe?

Thanks in advance.
My health issues have basically killed my photogra... (show quote)

Okay, let's make this easy. First, Make sure that you back up all of your photos to an external Hard Drive from your LR Catalogue. Second, I would make sure that all photos are in folders on your MAC/PC, just export from LightRoom to your Folders. Create NEW FOLDERS and give each one a name that will let you know what folder contains what photos, Example, You could separate your Photos by the Year/Years that they were taken or a special occasion. You can Create as many folders on your computer as you want. You could also create folders for edited photos. But, the Main Step that You Should Take is to back any and all photos to an EXT. HD.. Please do not make this harder on yourself than it is. As far as the DNG. goes, just change that format into a TIFF or JPEG File and then Export to your MAC/PC. This way you don't ever have to worry about the file type. Plus, transfer unedited files to a separate folder. Now you can bring any file to look at or re-edit on a different editing platform.

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Jul 13, 2020 05:05:21   #
SohelR12
 
I think Affinity Photo is the best alternative to Photoshop and let you handle almost every editing workflow as Photoshop does.
You can check out this URL to get a list of free open-source image editing software you can use instead of Photoshop.
https://piceditorreview.com/open-source-photo-editing-software

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Jul 13, 2020 15:46:46   #
Hip Coyote
 
Consider using Canon's free software to edit their CR2 files. I do not use it and dont know if it will edit or read dng, but will certainly read CR2 and JPEG. There are also free add-ons for windows that allows the explorer to read all variations of raw files and dng files. I just found one called RAW Viewer on MS site.

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