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Apr 26, 2020 07:04:59   #
saparoo Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Sark17 wrote:
Oh cool! I’m actually OTP - flowery branch - Lake Lanier area! What hart of town are you in?


We are also neighbors...I'm in Cumming on Lake Lanier. I have an old tripod that I will donate, no shipping involved!!!

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Apr 26, 2020 07:27:29   #
Murray Loc: New Westminster
 
bleirer wrote:
I just chime in that stabilization wouldn't help with subject motion anyway. So if it's good light and moving subjects and maybe at least a monopod, the shutter speed could get high enough to get some keepers. Maybe tell your friend to shoot bursts, on the 'lucky shot theory' (literally) that some will be sharper than others.


Agree

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Apr 26, 2020 07:28:17   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
It's your money. It's your decision. It you let the UHH community spend your money, nothing you have will ever be good enough to their standards.

The proposed set-up has the benefit of being free. Although both the camera and lens are 'old' in an April 2020 sense, they're a fine set-up for this trip as well as for ongoing everyday wild-life photography.

What is also free is practice and learning, something your friend should begin in preparation.



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Apr 26, 2020 07:37:17   #
bikerguy
 
Sark17 wrote:
I’m actually bringing it over in September (hopefully!), and a tripod is a great idea! I just don’t know that he could get out of the truck in many situations he will find himself in. Lots of light thankfully; but also pretty close to some apex predators. I think the beanbag is as stable as it may get - truck engine off of course!


We went on an African safari in 2014 with the Canon T4i and 70-300. The T2 with the 50-500 will be fine. Most of the shots will not be at the 500 mm end (800 mm equivalent). A tripod is useless in a vehicle, even a monopod is of no use. Between the vibration of the truck and other people moving it is of no value. Very generous of you and the woman that gave you the lens.

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Apr 26, 2020 07:45:03   #
bart11
 
Shark, I can show you Athens, Greece. Do by any chance have available that you dont need, a Sony A7r III with a couple of lenses and other accessories?
No need for more, except if you want to add something. That would be a wellcome gift and I’d appreciate it a lot. Let me know.
Thanks in advance

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Apr 26, 2020 08:01:09   #
Sark17 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Oh no way!!! That’s awesome!! THANK YOU!!! How wonderful! I’m not sure when we will be able to meet up, but I’m right over across from Aqualand basically! Maybe we can meet by boat this summer! I’ll PM you so we can save each other’s info!

saparoo wrote:
We are also neighbors...I'm in Cumming on Lake Lanier. I have an old tripod that I will donate, no shipping involved!!!

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Apr 26, 2020 08:16:29   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Image stabilization (OS) becomes almost a necessity if hand-holding a long lens. A higher shutter speed helps, too. In the field, a tripod slows down the photographer.
Screamin Scott wrote:
It's the lenses that have stabilization in the Canon line. Short of a lens with stabilization, he will need a stable tripod and good ones aren't cheap...Bean bags can help but not so much if the truck's engine is running...

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Apr 26, 2020 08:36:10   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Sark17 wrote:
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a friend that lives in Africa and is a safari guide. He has tons of opportunity to take incredible photos, but has never had a “real camera”, only his phone.

I have an old Canon Rebel T2i I plan to give him, and was looking for a decent lens to pair it with. I found the Sigma 50-500, (I wanted him to have ONE lens with as much range as possible), it’s the Sigma Ex 50-500mm 4-6.3 APO lens for Canon (NOT OS).

After talking with the amazing woman selling it, and telling her why I wanted it, she ended up just giving it to me which was so awesome and generous!!

My question: the camera doesn’t have OS, the lens doesn’t have OS, is this THAT much of an issue? He will likely use bean bags on the roof of his truck. Or, if it IS an issue, what is the most affordable canon camera body that does have OS? I was looking at the T5 and T7, but I don’t know much about them.

I just want to give him a solid set up because - 1) he’s never had one 2) he will likely not have another one for a long time and 3) he won’t have send back/repair options.

What do you think? My budget for this is not great, so I’m not looking for the newest, nicest, just something that’s good and has what he needs :)

Thanks in advance for any advice!
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a frien... (show quote)


The outfit is a wonderful starting point in his journey in photography. What a wonderful opportunity for someone who runs around bare ass all day (literally)
He should take his time and be sure to shoot fast enough, my suggestion would be for stills (1/1000 sec.) and for moving objects, minimum of 1/2000 sec. OK, just leave it at 1/2000 sec. and he should be fine.
Enjoy.

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Apr 26, 2020 08:43:30   #
Archboo3 Loc: Central Florida
 
The next question is does he have access to a computer to view and edit his pictures?

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Apr 26, 2020 08:45:38   #
billroach2717
 
What a lovely thing to do. Thanks for making the world just that small bit better. Remember this is a beginner not a purist. I think he will be thrilled with what you are proposing to give him. And I agree about study and practice. They are more important that IS. Good on you.

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Apr 26, 2020 09:07:44   #
JasonC Loc: Houston, Texas
 
I have that Sigma 50 to 500mm lens and it's big and heavy and requires additional support.

Perhaps dense foam or pipe insulation wrapped around the support-foot would allow the user to then rest the foot on the edge of the window frame or most any other horizontal solid object. Steve Perry's suggestion is to place the foam on the vehicle, but then that restricts where you can support the camera.

Jason

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Apr 26, 2020 09:09:00   #
Sark17 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Hi Jason! How do you like it?! He’s got the big, huge beanbags for the roof of the truck and the truck is always off, so similar to a tripod in the stability aspect. Curious your thoughts on the lens :)

JasonC wrote:
I have that Sigma 50 to 500mm lens and it's big and heavy and requires additional support.

Perhaps dense foam or pipe insulation wrapped around the support-foot would allow the user to then rest the foot on the edge of the window frame or most any other horizontal solid object. Steve Perry's suggestion is to place the foam on the vehicle, but then that restricts where you can support the camera.

Jason

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Apr 26, 2020 09:18:52   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Sark17 wrote:
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a friend that lives in Africa and is a safari guide. He has tons of opportunity to take incredible photos, but has never had a “real camera”, only his phone.

I have an old Canon Rebel T2i I plan to give him, and was looking for a decent lens to pair it with. I found the Sigma 50-500, (I wanted him to have ONE lens with as much range as possible), it’s the Sigma Ex 50-500mm 4-6.3 APO lens for Canon (NOT OS).

After talking with the amazing woman selling it, and telling her why I wanted it, she ended up just giving it to me which was so awesome and generous!!

My question: the camera doesn’t have OS, the lens doesn’t have OS, is this THAT much of an issue? He will likely use bean bags on the roof of his truck. Or, if it IS an issue, what is the most affordable canon camera body that does have OS? I was looking at the T5 and T7, but I don’t know much about them.

I just want to give him a solid set up because - 1) he’s never had one 2) he will likely not have another one for a long time and 3) he won’t have send back/repair options.

What do you think? My budget for this is not great, so I’m not looking for the newest, nicest, just something that’s good and has what he needs :)

Thanks in advance for any advice!
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a frien... (show quote)


That is a wonderful gift.
with no IS there is no problem, as you said he can use a bean bag (Turn off motor) and get great shots. Remember until recently IS never existed. People actually took wonderful shots with out IS.
Higher shutter speeds with a bit higher ISO will overcome a lot.
Disregard the rich naysayers.
You have a wonderful gift for your friend that many people would love to have and will take wonderful photos if your friend does their part with composition etc. and good camera handling practices.
Have the friend join UHH and send some photos with that wonderful new rig.

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Apr 26, 2020 09:26:08   #
JasonC Loc: Houston, Texas
 
Sark17 wrote:
Hi Jason! How do you like it?! He’s got the big, huge beanbags for the roof of the truck and the truck is always off, so similar to a tripod in the stability aspect. Curious your thoughts on the lens :)


Here's a photo of the moon that I took with that lens.



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Apr 26, 2020 09:31:03   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
JasonC wrote:
Here's a photo of the moon that I took with that lens.


Great looking shot.

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