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Apr 26, 2020 15:17:24   #
Sark17 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
That’s so cool that this is what you do!! First - I’m majorly envious you live in SA, hopefully some day I can call Africa home, even if just for a year or two. To clarify- he’s not a photography guide, he’s a safari guide. So I imagine if he didn’t have “cool people” with him, he would not take photos. I do have the batteries (4), two chargers with the American voltage so I am giving him a converter, a car charger so he can charge it in his truck if needed, I’ve got the card reader for his phone, and I think I may even have the 70-300, but my guess is after one of the comments I read, that it’s the 75-300 (not such a great lens). I’ll look for one for him!! I just want him to have good stuff! He’s so excited, and so am I to give it to him! He’s started reading about aperture, light, shutter speed, composition, etc, but as we all know, practice is how we learn. So when he gets it is when he will really start to learn!



Opsafari wrote:
A fantastic gift! Do not stress about the stabilizing things, he just needs to keep the camera steady. You mentioned he is a guide then that 500mm lens is a problem, too big while he is guiding! A 70-300mm by far better for walking and vehicle guiding.When he is on his own then he can use the 500mm. I live in Southern Africa and is also a vehicle guide and I also take one camera with me and use the 70-300mm a lot for capturing wildlife and the guests. As a photo guide you give 100% opportunity to your guests first and you try to capture the scene through the back of guests heads and shoulders! But when you are alone to can do what you want and with what lens you want, then you have the time for using a tripod.

Apart from the camera and 500mm lense, please try and get a 70-300mm lens as well. Plus a polarized filter, extra battery, 220v battery charger and memory cards and maybe a memory card reader. A vehicle charger is nice but he will not need it as he needs to concentrate on his guiding and I have ever had the need to charge my camera on a game drive!

In Africa, camera equipment is very expensive as most are imported from the USA and currently in my country it's more than 20x the price excluding shipping if I need to import it!!!!

Try and get a manual for the camera, even if you need to down load and print for him as many lodges don't have internet access and internet in general is very expensive overall Africa and guides don't always have the luxury to spend hours searching and reading manuals. Again you are a special person to give such a wonderful gift.
A fantastic gift! Do not stress about the stabiliz... (show quote)

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Apr 26, 2020 16:42:11   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
The Canon website might not be accessible in you friend’s part of Africa.

burkphoto wrote:
Image Stabilization, or Vibration Compensation, or IBIS (in-body image stabilization) or Vibration Reduction, or... It's all nice to have, but if the camera and lens are already available, I'd concentrate on photographic knowledge and experience, first!

Yes, he will need a sturdy tripod capable of supporting that rig. Yes, a beanbag will work, but only on a stable surface such as a parked vehicle with the motor off...

But nothing will work as desired if he knows little about the gear, exposure, light, and general photographic techniques. CAMERAS do not make photographs. PHOTOGRAPHERS do. Once you get beyond the simplicity and capability of a fully automatic device, it's up to you. The camera and lens are just tools. Automation can disappoint about 15% to 20% of the time, so understanding what it is doing and knowing when to override it is important.

The most important thing he can do is to Read The *Fine* Manuals. If they are not available in hard copy, the Canon website has a support/downloads page for the body, and Sigma likely has one for the lens, as well.

Cheers!
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Apr 26, 2020 17:35:04   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Please tell your friend about UHH. I would love to see his progress as a new photographer in Africa. What you are doing is amazing. People like you make the world a better place.

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Apr 26, 2020 17:57:38   #
Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
 
Wonderful idea to give a camera/lens gift. I did this a few years ago for one of my wife's cousins.

I read through 6 pages of posts and want to share what I did not see that should be a consideration.

DUST - Your friend is in the bush. He has no experience with a camera/lens. And you are giving him something that must be protected and regularly cleaned of dust that seems to be everywhere. Can't respond to a particular camera model or this lens and it's weather sealing. But you should investigate the weather sealing as well as tell your friend how to protect and keep his new photo gear in excellent working condition. A non-aerosol solution like an ear syringe, maybe an untreated microfiber cloth or several, etc.

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Apr 26, 2020 18:18:24   #
deadeye93
 
I have a Tamron 18 to 400 MM and it has stabilization in the lens. It is a great walk about lens

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Apr 26, 2020 18:42:29   #
Photocraig
 
Sark17 wrote:
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a friend that lives in Africa and is a safari guide. He has tons of opportunity to take incredible photos, but has never had a “real camera”, only his phone.

I have an old Canon Rebel T2i I plan to give him, and was looking for a decent lens to pair it with. I found the Sigma 50-500, (I wanted him to have ONE lens with as much range as possible), it’s the Sigma Ex 50-500mm 4-6.3 APO lens for Canon (NOT OS).

After talking with the amazing woman selling it, and telling her why I wanted it, she ended up just giving it to me which was so awesome and generous!!

My question: the camera doesn’t have OS, the lens doesn’t have OS, is this THAT much of an issue? He will likely use bean bags on the roof of his truck. Or, if it IS an issue, what is the most affordable canon camera body that does have OS? I was looking at the T5 and T7, but I don’t know much about them.

I just want to give him a solid set up because - 1) he’s never had one 2) he will likely not have another one for a long time and 3) he won’t have send back/repair options.

What do you think? My budget for this is not great, so I’m not looking for the newest, nicest, just something that’s good and has what he needs :)

Thanks in advance for any advice!
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a frien... (show quote)


I'm not familiar with this lens, but Sigma makes good lenses. I owned the 'big brother" of the T2i--the EOS 50D. It is a competent 16MP camera with good capabilities. There are no current Canon EOS cameras with in body Image Stabilization. Soon, for a high end body, as the rumors go. BUT, that camera lens should produce good images used with Shutter speeds of 1/500ths of a second or faster and ISO's below 2400. Anytime I went to 3200 or 6400 ISO i'd see so much noise that the photos were nearly unusable. My Indoor youth sports photos made the kids look line they all had Measles. That's more of a factor of underexposure, but any ISO below 1600 and proper exposure yielded great photos with plenty of detail.

If you don't have an instruction book, get one or a PDF from Canonusa web site.

Best of luck to your friend, who has a very generous couple of friends. Be sure you clearly identify the camera and lens as a GIFT. Look up how to do this under the rules of his country. Maybe the Post Office or your shipper--Fed Ex or whoever. You wouldn't want him paying a tax on a gift, even or especially on used equipment several generations old.
This T2i/ Sigma combo will serve him well. Be sure to send an extra battery or two and Cards--My 50D used CF cards which are hard to find.

C

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Apr 26, 2020 19:02:39   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Sark17 wrote:
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a friend that lives in Africa and is a safari guide. He has tons of opportunity to take incredible photos, but has never had a “real camera”, only his phone.

I have an old Canon Rebel T2i I plan to give him, and was looking for a decent lens to pair it with. I found the Sigma 50-500, (I wanted him to have ONE lens with as much range as possible), it’s the Sigma Ex 50-500mm 4-6.3 APO lens for Canon (NOT OS).

After talking with the amazing woman selling it, and telling her why I wanted it, she ended up just giving it to me which was so awesome and generous!!

My question: the camera doesn’t have OS, the lens doesn’t have OS, is this THAT much of an issue? He will likely use bean bags on the roof of his truck. Or, if it IS an issue, what is the most affordable canon camera body that does have OS? I was looking at the T5 and T7, but I don’t know much about them.

I just want to give him a solid set up because - 1) he’s never had one 2) he will likely not have another one for a long time and 3) he won’t have send back/repair options.

What do you think? My budget for this is not great, so I’m not looking for the newest, nicest, just something that’s good and has what he needs :)

Thanks in advance for any advice!
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a frien... (show quote)


He should be able to learn to use non OS / IS / VR equipment. People took safari photos with film cameras that were fully manual let alone IS. Probably fewer keepers and digital does not have the old 36, 24, 20 exposure limit per cassette.

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Apr 26, 2020 20:10:36   #
crphoto8 Loc: Anaheim, California
 
I have been on an African safari, so here's my 2 cents worth - you don't need a tripod. You can't shoot while the vehicle is bumping on dirt trails. The driver/guide stops when there's something worth shooting; also I've asked them to stop when I saw something. I used a Canon 5D/3. About 90 to 95 % of the time I used a 70-200 f/4 with a 1.4 extender. We got close to wildlife which doesn't mind the safari vehicles hence there was no need for further reach.

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Apr 26, 2020 22:07:58   #
Grumpy D Stevens
 
Sark17 wrote:
Oh cool! I’m actually OTP - flowery branch - Lake Lanier area! What hart of town are you in?


HA!!! I am also a neighbor. I live on the lake in the Buford area.

What else does your friend need? I have a good bit of Canon equipment and may be willing to part with some if he needs any of my "extra" items... A lot of my equipment is still film related ( 4 bodies, etc) although it is all current EF mounts and such - but I may have some filters and other things. Let me know if I can help you with your project. Thanks ....

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Apr 27, 2020 07:40:40   #
Sark17 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
No way! How fun to “meet” all of you! Maybe some day we can have a local UHH photography meet up at one of the lake restaurants! Thank you for your kind offer! I can’t think of anything honestly, I think he’s at least covered with the necessities! But a filter or two could be really cool! I’ll have to learn more about this lens I just acquired for him because I don’t know the size it would need, but how kind of you for your willingness to help! Have a great week!

Grumpy D Stevens wrote:
HA!!! I am also a neighbor. I live on the lake in the Buford area.

What else does your friend need? I have a good bit of Canon equipment and may be willing to part with some if he needs any of my "extra" items... A lot of my equipment is still film related ( 4 bodies, etc) although it is all current EF mounts and such - but I may have some filters and other things. Let me know if I can help you with your project. Thanks ....

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Apr 27, 2020 13:36:30   #
gouldopfl
 
The first Canon camera that will have stabilization built in will be the new R5 when it is released. With the Rebel line not being a full frame camera, it will have some advantages once they learn. For example a 50-150 would be the same as a full frame 80-240mm lens. To get to that you take the numeric values and multiply by 1.6

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Apr 27, 2020 18:16:41   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Sark17 wrote:
Thank you so much for your kind words! I think he will be happy with it! He’s only had a cell phone to take photos with and that phone is certainly not one that is taking super great photos! He’s already studying! He’s so excited! This is his set up! I’m so excited to give it to him!


nice!

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Apr 28, 2020 01:42:07   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
It's the lenses that have stabilization in the Canon line. Short of a lens with stabilization, he will need a stable tripod and good ones aren't cheap...Bean bags can help but not so much if the truck's engine is running...


If the engine is running, a tripod's usefulness would be greatly compromised also.

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