D500 vs D850 Hmm
Nov 7, 2019 08:27:36 #
jbk224
Loc: Long Island, NY
To your ?. I would go with the 850 as, said earlier, you can go both ways. Since cost is not the issue it is a no-brainer.
And again to your ? regarding the 28-300. As a walk around lens it is more than capable and provides the range that you are looking for. Other glass is better, but does not offer you the same flexibility. And, as I have posted before....too many of 'us' here and on other sites tend to be snobs about the glass. It is the eye behind the camera that makes the picture and we all don't have to have the best of the best for every single item. Sometimes compromises are well worthwhile. The 28-300 will fit the bill nicely.
And again to your ? regarding the 28-300. As a walk around lens it is more than capable and provides the range that you are looking for. Other glass is better, but does not offer you the same flexibility. And, as I have posted before....too many of 'us' here and on other sites tend to be snobs about the glass. It is the eye behind the camera that makes the picture and we all don't have to have the best of the best for every single item. Sometimes compromises are well worthwhile. The 28-300 will fit the bill nicely.
Nov 7, 2019 08:29:58 #
jbk224
Loc: Long Island, NY
Now to something you didn't ask. What about the Z6 or Z7? Everything still applies as I just posted. I have not looked back since my change from the D810 to the Z6.
Nov 7, 2019 08:36:17 #
You seem to be well read on both cameras and the choice should be simple, the bigger heavier D850 is more suited for landscapes or heavy cropping when high resolution is needed. The D500 is more suited for sports or fast moving objects, don't you know witch one you will be shooting more often?... Or do you want us to tell you what you should be shooting more often?.
Nov 7, 2019 08:55:04 #
I upgraded to the 850 from the 7100. I had previously upgraded most lenses to FX assuming that some day I would end up with a full frame. The others I sold after getting the camera. I still use the 7100 as a backup.
When I first bought the camera I went whole hog and bought the 24 - 70 and the 70-200 lenses. Liked them for the first few days great low light capabilities. I did have a number of issues getting them to focus and it was quite a task. Blaming my inexperience but before the 30 day return period was up, I returned them both. I could get better and sharper shots with one of the small lenses owned previously and decided to find a different one that I could use. Those were also quite large and heavy. Already had the 200-500 and really did not lug around two more.
I did buy the 20-300 and am pretty satisfied with it. When I need a lens to walk around with where I do not know what I will encounter, this is the one that comes along. It came in handy the other night when taking a sunset and a GBH who comes each night at sunset showed up. I had missed him a few times with my two lens set up.
Good luck with your decision. BY the way - I lived in Downers Grove for 32 years and my wife worked at Argonne for 35+. We retired earlier this year and the 850 was my retirement gift to myself. Now live in Missouri 2 blocks from a dam and a lake.
If I do know what I will encounter, I take my 200-500 and my 16 - 35. I primarily shoot birds and landscape and walk down to my lake most nights with these two on different cameras.
When I first bought the camera I went whole hog and bought the 24 - 70 and the 70-200 lenses. Liked them for the first few days great low light capabilities. I did have a number of issues getting them to focus and it was quite a task. Blaming my inexperience but before the 30 day return period was up, I returned them both. I could get better and sharper shots with one of the small lenses owned previously and decided to find a different one that I could use. Those were also quite large and heavy. Already had the 200-500 and really did not lug around two more.
I did buy the 20-300 and am pretty satisfied with it. When I need a lens to walk around with where I do not know what I will encounter, this is the one that comes along. It came in handy the other night when taking a sunset and a GBH who comes each night at sunset showed up. I had missed him a few times with my two lens set up.
Good luck with your decision. BY the way - I lived in Downers Grove for 32 years and my wife worked at Argonne for 35+. We retired earlier this year and the 850 was my retirement gift to myself. Now live in Missouri 2 blocks from a dam and a lake.
If I do know what I will encounter, I take my 200-500 and my 16 - 35. I primarily shoot birds and landscape and walk down to my lake most nights with these two on different cameras.
Nov 7, 2019 08:59:18 #
I have them both. If you can afford it, go for the D850 if you love to do landscape photography. And you can still pretty much do anything the D500 does in the "crop version" of the sensor. It dos not work the other way around.
Nov 7, 2019 09:04:24 #
Imagine your life as a successful photographer. What camera are you holding?
Nov 7, 2019 09:04:59 #
I can not speak on the D850, but I understand it is a great camera. I bought the D500 last June and I could not be happier with it. I wasn’t sure I would like the 16-80 lens, but I love it. This lens almost never comes off my camera. I highly recommend getting the D500 kit.
Nov 7, 2019 09:06:11 #
Wingpilot wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that very high megapi... (show quote)
Very good point......thanks
Nov 7, 2019 09:08:25 #
DaveO wrote:
The focus system on the 810 doesn't hold a candle to the 500, 850, D5 and a few others.
Nov 7, 2019 09:15:27 #
Wingpilot wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that very high megapixel cameras have a way of magnifying any faults in a lens.
In DX mode the D850 has about the same pixel density as the D500. Shouldn't the DX lenses the OP owns give about the same results on either?
The only draw backs to the D850 that I find (owning both) :
The small image shown in the viewfinder when using DX lenses on the D850.
The D850 has a much noisier shutter.
I use both cameras about the same amount.
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Nov 7, 2019 09:34:31 #
garrickw
Loc: Wyoming Mn.
I have both had the D500 first and used it for wildlife and the D850 for landscape after a few months use the 850 for everything a lot of extra things you can do with it and I like the full frame I can crop exactly what I want my wife now has my D500
Nov 7, 2019 10:03:54 #
D850 will yield somewhat better image quality, espcecially in low light conditions. However, you will be gaining weight and bulk and losing ease of handling. Your 50mm, which is a 75mm on the D500 and other DX cameras, will actually be a 50mm on the D850, which has a FX sensor.
Nov 7, 2019 10:04:11 #
larryepage wrote:
I have both of these cameras and find them very si... (show quote)
My sentiments exactly. I too have both of these cameras, but I feel that either one could easily satisfy 95% of my needs. I’m in my 70’s and have no plans to buy anything new. I actually think I have put my Gas to rest. I love both cameras, and use them for different types of shooting.
Nov 7, 2019 10:06:59 #
Nov 7, 2019 11:09:45 #
Bill_de wrote:
In DX mode the D850 has about the same pixel density as the D500. Shouldn't the DX lenses the OP owns give about the same results on either?
The only draw backs to the D850 that I find (owning both) :
The small image shown in the viewfinder when using DX lenses on the D850.
The D850 has a much noisier shutter.
I use both cameras about the same amount.
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The only draw backs to the D850 that I find (owning both) :
The small image shown in the viewfinder when using DX lenses on the D850.
The D850 has a much noisier shutter.
I use both cameras about the same amount.
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My point there was that to get the most out of a camera like the D850 you really do need a very high quality lens. Lower quality lenses will tend to produce lower quality images in high MP cameras. That is not to say that DX lenses, or any other brand of APSC lenses are necessarily of lower quality. You can certainly pay a lot of money for some DX lenses. I just wanted to bring up the point that a high MP camera will emphasize any faults in a less expensive lens. Case in point. My grandson has a D810 and a 24-70 f/2.8 Nikon lens. He found that his images, despite being in focus, weren’t as crisp and clean as he expected with the D810. But on my D7200 it performed quite nicely. He got the Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 VRIII and loves it. It’s a very good lens match to the high MP D810, and it should as it cost $2800.00! So my recommendation is that if one is going to invest in a camera like the D850, then one should also expect to spend big $$$$ on good lenses that will take full advantage of that camera’s capabilities.
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