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Nov 7, 2019 06:33:05   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
uhaas2009 wrote:
I have the 7000 and the 810. I don’t know much about the 500. But the focusing system on the 810 Beats everything. When I crop a pics it’s a drastic change what is left. I would go with the 850...... I love my 810


The focus system on the 810 doesn't hold a candle to the 500, 850, D5 and a few others.

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Nov 7, 2019 06:33:28   #
wayne60 Loc: Joliet Illinois
 
As a fellow Nikonian since 78 and went through over 15 bodies since my initial FE. First off I love the sound of a mirror and shutter working as one. Second ditch all your DX lenses and don't look back. Buy the 850 and get a used 17-35 , 50 1.4,70-200 2.8 and that should cover just about everything. Then add 28-70 or 28 -300. I went through a crap load of stuff in last 12 years. Right now I have a 600,750,810. And all the lenses above accept 28-300 because don't like plastic lenses personally. Also if you want again personal opinion a great bang for the buck Tokina 100 macro,28-70 ATX PRO FX their newest . They still build all metal lenses that will outlast Sigma ,Tamron. This is going to raise ire but thats about what I did 4 years ago in switch over. But I still have a few carryovers from film. 58 1.2 noct, 300 2.8 Ai that I still use.

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Nov 7, 2019 06:46:04   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
nervous2 wrote:
I occasionally smile at posts from new members whose first question is “what camera should I purchase.” I’m not quite in the same boat but now I too have the question, “what camera should I purchase.” I have the greatest respect for the skill and knowledge of fellow hedgehoggers and I am hoping that once again they can help me avoid a decision that I later regret. I have owned and enjoyed the Nikon D70s, D7000 and more recently two D7100s. I have more lenses than you can shake a stick at—mostly DX but a few FX as well. So, as I am about to upgrade once again, I am torn between the D500 and the D850. I will most likely never use all the capability of either of those cameras, but I will enjoy owning and shooting with either—so, which one? Because of the plethora of DX lenses that I have acquired, I had been leaning towards the D500, although I have often thought it would be interesting to move towards full-frame. Now, however, I read on Ken Rockwell’s site that the D850 “works with DX lenses and automatically crops to the central part of its sensor (and shows a smaller frame in the finder) to give 19MP DX shots." Thus, I would have time to transition to a collection of FX glass and still be able to use my current collection of DX lenses in the meanwhile. (And I will keep one of the D7100s as a backup.) If I were to purchase the D500, I would probably buy the Nikkor 16-80 f/2.8-4 E lens to go with it. For the D850 I was going to pair it with the Nikkor 24-120 f/4 lens although in reading the Rockwell analysis, he seems to prefer the Nikkor 28-300 f/3.5-5.6 G given that a single lens covers so much more territory. Any thoughts on which of these would be appreciated as well. A final consideration is that fortunately, I am able to afford either of the two cameras. Having said that, no one likes to make a mistake where a fairly large expenditure is being made. Please be patient in your responses. I have done quite a bit of reading but, again, I have great respect for the community knowledge of my friends. Thank you for your help.
I occasionally smile at posts from new members who... (show quote)


Eventually you will wonder why you didn’t go full frame if you don’t do it now.
Don’t buy a 28-300 for the 850.

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Nov 7, 2019 06:46:54   #
CO
 
Avoid the Nikkor 16-80 f/2.8-4 E lens. I had that lens. It was a big disappointment. It seems like a $500 to $600 lens that sells for $1000. I ended up returning mine. They cheapened the lens from the previous 16-85mm f/3.5-5.6 lens that it replaced. The 16-80mm f/2.8-4 has a loud autofocus motor, they lowered the build quality, and mine had a severe back focusing issue. I already had the Nikon 16-85mm f/3.5-5.6 and found one more brand new one at a camera store. I use those on my D500 and D7000.

Another alternative to the Nikon 24-120mm f/4 is the new Tamron 35-150mm f/2.8-4 lens that was just released. It has lower distortion than the Nikon 24-120mm and is as sharp.

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Nov 7, 2019 06:46:58   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
One thing that wasn't mentioned (at least I didn't see it mentioned) and something you may take into consideration. The 850 is natively a Full frame, however you can select different image areas such as FX,
1.2x, DX, 5:4, & 1:1....kinda kills two birds with one stone....oh yeah, Auto DX also so you can use your DX lenses till you get higher quality FX glass. I have the D500, D850 and a D5, among others, the three mentioned all have a place or a specific use... for me that is.

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Nov 7, 2019 06:48:35   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Eventually you will wonder why you didn’t go full frame if you don’t do it now.


Depends on your use and expectations. FF also doesn't automatically guaranty super duper pics!

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Nov 7, 2019 06:51:19   #
wayne60 Loc: Joliet Illinois
 
I remember carrying my F3 with battery pack,extended film back , motor drive to Cubs games and concrts in Chicago area. And wimps nowadays whine about a metal lens weighing to much. They are part of the generation that buys a camera ,puts it in P and then blame the machine for not making them Ansel Adams. I love going to car shows and when someone asks to look through my camera intentionally putting it out of focus. They always say here its broke. Enough said

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Nov 7, 2019 07:02:43   #
ppkwhat Loc: Gibsonton, FL
 
nervous2 wrote:
I occasionally smile at posts from new members whose first question is “what camera should I purchase.” I’m not quite in the same boat but now I too have the question, “what camera should I purchase.” I have the greatest respect for the skill and knowledge of fellow hedgehoggers and I am hoping that once again they can help me avoid a decision that I later regret. I have owned and enjoyed the Nikon D70s, D7000 and more recently two D7100s. I have more lenses than you can shake a stick at—mostly DX but a few FX as well. So, as I am about to upgrade once again, I am torn between the D500 and the D850. I will most likely never use all the capability of either of those cameras, but I will enjoy owning and shooting with either—so, which one? Because of the plethora of DX lenses that I have acquired, I had been leaning towards the D500, although I have often thought it would be interesting to move towards full-frame. Now, however, I read on Ken Rockwell’s site that the D850 “works with DX lenses and automatically crops to the central part of its sensor (and shows a smaller frame in the finder) to give 19MP DX shots." Thus, I would have time to transition to a collection of FX glass and still be able to use my current collection of DX lenses in the meanwhile. (And I will keep one of the D7100s as a backup.) If I were to purchase the D500, I would probably buy the Nikkor 16-80 f/2.8-4 E lens to go with it. For the D850 I was going to pair it with the Nikkor 24-120 f/4 lens although in reading the Rockwell analysis, he seems to prefer the Nikkor 28-300 f/3.5-5.6 G given that a single lens covers so much more territory. Any thoughts on which of these would be appreciated as well. A final consideration is that fortunately, I am able to afford either of the two cameras. Having said that, no one likes to make a mistake where a fairly large expenditure is being made. Please be patient in your responses. I have done quite a bit of reading but, again, I have great respect for the community knowledge of my friends. Thank you for your help.
I occasionally smile at posts from new members who... (show quote)


nervous2;Here is my "two cents": I have a Nikon D-300 as a back up to my D-750 and I love them. When got the D-300 many years back, I got with it a 50mm and a 70-300mm. As the times passed, I acquired a wide angle for the D-300. Then I moved to the D-750 and purchased a few extra lenses: 70-200mm 28-300mm and a 60mm macro and a 105mm macro as well as a 20mm wide angle. My next purchase will be the 24-70mm and the 200-500mm (all Nikon lenses) for Christmas. I also have the old 24-120 mm lens that I don't like as much. My idea is to sell the 70-300mm, the 60mm macro sometime next year.
Therefore my suggestion to you would be to sell your DX lenses, invest on the D-850 and get a wide angle around 16mm range, a 24-70mm, the 28-300mm as walk around lens and if you like "birding" add the 200-500mm Nikon lens.

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Nov 7, 2019 07:11:01   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
DaveO wrote:
Depends on your use and expectations. FF also doesn't automatically guaranty super duper pics!


I did not mean to suggest everyone needs a full frame.
From the tone of the OP’s initial post specifically “avoid a decision I will later regret”, and his history of DX; i opined that he will eventually buy a full frame camera.
Maybe not.

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Nov 7, 2019 07:17:07   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I did not mean to suggest everyone needs a full frame.
From the tone of the OP’s initial post specifically “avoid a decision I will later regret”, and his history of DX; i opined that he will eventually buy a full frame camera.
Maybe not.


LOL, I'm just perpetuating the DX vs FF ribbing! Too bad Chg Canon didn't weigh in!

My best all around camera was the D7100, but I replaced it with a D500. I'm quite pleased with the D850 and if I could only have one camera, it would be my choice. For wildlife I lean toward the crop sensor...maybe it's the instant gratification...LOL!

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Nov 7, 2019 07:39:07   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
I also have both. Use the D850 for landscape and still objects, slow steady movement. Use the D500 when constant, reasonably fast and/or erratic movement is involved - sports, birds, boats, dragonflies etc.

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Nov 7, 2019 07:45:43   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Some good comparisons -

https://cameradecision.com/compare/Nikon-D500-vs-Nikon-D850
https://expertworldtravel.com/nikon-d500-vs-d850/
https://cameradecision.com/compare/Nikon-D850-vs-Nikon-D500
https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D850-versus-Nikon-D500___1177_1061
https://www.apotelyt.com/compare-camera/nikon-d500-vs-nikon-d850
https://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/nikon/d500/vs/nikon/d850/

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Nov 7, 2019 07:52:02   #
edhjr Loc: Needham, MA
 
850 and 28 to 300 and build from there. Amazing quality and flexibility with that pair! You will be very happy!!!!!

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Nov 7, 2019 07:58:04   #
kt72sf
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A 19MP image is roughly the same, but still smaller, than the 21MP of the D500. Both these DX options are a step down in resolution from your 24MP D7100. Honestly, you appear to have a GAS problem. We all have GAS problems, so that is meant as an observation, not the casting of a stone.

The D850 is Nikon's top FX camera. You should focus on only the best lenses for this body. Get rid of everything else and just focus on this platform, skipping the super zooms. Unless you have a paying job, you don't need a "back-up" camera. That's just a rationalization for not addressing the root GAS issues.

Given the year-end is approaching, have you looked at your images and identified any equipment that went unused this entire calendar year? These are candidates to jettison. The D70 and D7000 won't fetch much, but I'd think these are just gathering dust. There's probably some lenses in the same situation. The D500 is Nikon's top crop body, but you're paying for a professional-grade frames-per-second speed. Are you shooting sports and / or birds in flight and have a quality 400-600mm lens? Do you need to pay a premium for these capabilities and smaller resolution sensor if they are not part of your usage?


"Summary: look at what you have and decide what you're looking to accomplish. Is photography the goal or the equipment? Then, do whatever you want.
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...very well said, and for me, ...very true at 5:00 am in the morning.

Kerry in San Francisco

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Nov 7, 2019 08:25:53   #
hammond
 
I have the D500 and have been very happy with it for almost 4 years now - have my eyes on the D850 once I can afford it, and will keep the D500 for sports and birds.

If I could only have one, I'd probably go with the D850, simply because it's full-frame and newer.
And then I'd probably sell those old lenses to get an FX lens worthy of the D850.

I'm finding that the money spent on good glass relegates the low-cost lenses I purchased at the beginning of my foray into photography obsolete, and I really never use them anymore now that I've acquired better lenses. Sell what you don't use so you can buy stuff you will use.

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