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Aug 9, 2019 10:42:19   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
btbg wrote:
You have hit on exactly what the problem is. There is no such thing and what gets deemed to be an assault weapon by politicians is often unclear and nebulous.

What they appear to want to ban is some semi-automatic rifles that happen to look somewhat like military firearms rather than traditional hunting rifles.

The thing is no one has accurately defined exactly which rifles are assault rifles and which ones are suitable hunting rifles and no one has demonstrated that a ban would work at all.

In fact the government's own study regarding the ban on assault rifles that went from 1994 to 204 is that the ban had no discernible difference on gun violence. Do the same study today and you will get the same result.

I repeat no difference. And in spite of what the news and liberals would have you to believe violent crime is down dramatically in the United States since 2004.

There is no one on this site that can give you an accurate and objective answer because there isn't one.
You have hit on exactly what the problem is. There... (show quote)


Be that as it may, what amazes me about this debate, is Hunting??
Who goes hunting? For what, how often & what do they do with the victim? Eat it? Just kill it for the fun??
It strikes me that they haven't developed much past the Wild West days, or further back to just out of the trees. Is the hunting argument a cover for the real reason? Self defence or protecting your property?
Do these gun crazies really want to kill a person who just might be very hungry & destitute enough to want to break in for food.
It really looks like Wild West mentality to want a gun. But it says a lot about them that installs a twit like trump. Your country is going backwards.

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Aug 9, 2019 10:52:36   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Bunko.T wrote:
Be that as it may, what amazes me about this debate, is Hunting??
Who goes hunting? For what, how often & what do they do with the victim? Eat it? Just kill it for the fun??
It strikes me that they haven't developed much past the Wild West days, or further back to just out of the trees. Is the hunting argument a cover for the real reason? Self defence or protecting your property?
Do these gun crazies really want to kill a person who just might be very hungry & destitute enough to want to break in for food.
It really looks like Wild West mentality to want a gun. But it says a lot about them that installs a twit like trump. Your country is going backwards.
Be that as it may, what amazes me about this debat... (show quote)


You don't get out much do you?

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Aug 9, 2019 11:24:41   #
Angmo
 
LWW wrote:
So we should ban baseball bats?


And my fists of fury?

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Aug 9, 2019 11:31:59   #
One Jughead Loc: Greene County, OH
 
boberic wrote:
Will please explain to me exactly what an assault weapon is.


An assault weapon is anything that someone uses to assault another person. Could be anything from a pocket knife, baseball bat, nun chucks, gun of any kind, tire iron, lug wrench, automobile and many other things. They are all around us and the object itself usually is a tool made for a certain purpose. That tool doesn't do anything by itself. It takes a person to use it. Most people use it as it was intended to be used. A few others use it for harm to one or more other persons.

When are we going to refer to these situations referencing the problem person and not the object they used to cause havoc? When are we going to look at the objects that cause the most deaths and go after the solution to that problem first. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE NEED TO START REMOVING CARS FROM OUR ROADS AND MAYBE OUTLAWING THEIR OWNERSHIP.

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Aug 9, 2019 11:44:51   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Rose42 wrote:
If we settle we WILL lose more. Guaranteed.

Even 10 years ago no one would have questioned people having a semi auto. When did we turn into such a nation of sheep?


When you could not control
Each other. Now we have to.

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Aug 9, 2019 11:46:59   #
Rose42
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
When you could not control
Each other. Now we have to.


And there it is. The alt left wants to control people. That mindset is as un-American as it gets

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Aug 9, 2019 11:51:41   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
When you could not control
Each other. Now we have to.


SEIG HEIL!

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Aug 9, 2019 11:57:48   #
pendennis
 
Bunko.T wrote:
Be that as it may, what amazes me about this debate, is Hunting??
Who goes hunting? For what, how often & what do they do with the victim? Eat it? Just kill it for the fun??
It strikes me that they haven't developed much past the Wild West days, or further back to just out of the trees. Is the hunting argument a cover for the real reason? Self defence or protecting your property?
Do these gun crazies really want to kill a person who just might be very hungry & destitute enough to want to break in for food.
It really looks like Wild West mentality to want a gun. But it says a lot about them that installs a twit like trump. Your country is going backwards.
Be that as it may, what amazes me about this debat... (show quote)


First, hunting is a right to survive which predates our Constitution by thousands of years. Man is an omnivore, not a vegetarian. Animal protein is essential for development of the human brain. Animals are not victims; you're trying to define the argument into proving a negative. Animals in the wild always have the advantage. They know their territory far better than the hunter, and the odds of bagging your game is less than 50%, since animals sense you far faster than you sense them.

Even trophy hunters don't waste the meat. In Africa, Alaska, Northern Canada, etc., the meat from the animal is processed and donated to the locals. Animals, unless poached, are not wasted; even bones and hides are used.

Yes, there are fewer hunters for any number of reasons, but those who do enjoy a right, not a privilege, and its a right for which the hunters pay in terms of licenses, taxes, and user fees which non-hunters don't pay a dime. Since you don't hunt, you don't get to have a say.

Legal hunting is what has kept any number of species from going extinct. Deer, elk, moose, bear, etc., all have strict limits on the number of animals which can be hunted per hunting season. Because of illegal hunting in the early 20th century, huge numbers of wildlife nearly went extinct, but legislation sponsored by hunters actually saved entire species. And, hunters have forced legislatures to pass laws to keep idiots from interfering with a legal act, and probably saved their stupid lives.

Since you're an Australian, you have no concept of freedom as we do in America, and you've allowed your government to run roughshod over your individual rights.

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Aug 9, 2019 12:01:24   #
OlinBost Loc: Marietta, Ga.
 
BigBear wrote:
There are several ways to avoid that.
Don't leave your home, hire an escort service, take self defense class or don't ever go out with an assassin.


You forgot to mention an armored car.

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Aug 9, 2019 12:09:12   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
OlinBost wrote:
You forgot to mention an armored car.


That would limit him to drive through locations, but that is another option.

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Aug 9, 2019 12:12:51   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
First. Hunting has nothing to do with assault weapons (even if some people use them for hunting). My opinion is that hunting for food is a valid reason. but once the rifle comes to your shoulder, it's nothing more than target shooting. But trophy hunting is an excuse for saying my dick is bigger than yours. Other than house cats Man is the only creature that hunts for trophy. But thats my opinion

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Aug 9, 2019 12:26:31   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Rose42 wrote:
And there it is. The alt left wants to control people. That mindset is as un-American as it gets


Republicans do not want to control people. They do not want anyone to allow them to control their gun rights. They do not want control women’s bodies. They are obviously as American as it gets -not.

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Aug 9, 2019 12:36:45   #
One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID
 
boberic wrote:
Will please explain to me exactly what an assault weapon is.


This subject has been flogged to death, go look it up do some study on the subject.

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Aug 9, 2019 12:39:36   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
boberic wrote:
Will please explain to me exactly what an assault weapon is.




This could be a very razor-like "assault weapon" if handle the right way



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Aug 9, 2019 12:41:03   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
FRENCHY wrote:
This could be a very razor-like "assault weapon" if handle the right way


More deflection. Not even good. Anything to take the topic off of trump. Think you can pass the background check.

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