Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk)
Left Hand Drive Versus Right Hand Drive. Logic And Reason
Page <<first <prev 5 of 10 next> last>>
Jun 30, 2019 12:24:43   #
Bulldog1jack Loc: CT
 
I drive on the right side of the road and have LHD and RHD vehicles and have zero issues shifting ether way. I feel at home both ways. Pay attention to what your doing and not everything around you just saying.

Reply
Jun 30, 2019 13:36:01   #
Dan Mc Loc: NM
 
Not only clanging and crunching gears, but the over run or runaway on braking was frightening!!!!!!!!!

Reply
Jun 30, 2019 13:54:21   #
Abo
 
DebAnn wrote:
One thing you said makes no sense at all. If you have to choose which hand is on the steering wheel and which alters the gears, you need more dexterity to alter the gears than you do to steer. Therefore, if you are right-handed it's better to use your right hand to change the gears. Steering is easy with the left hand. In which case, driving on the right is easier.


As soon as a driving situation becomes demanding enough to be critical,
steering will be a greater issue than gear changing.

It is at that point, steering will require your "A" game.
And for most people their "A" game is best executed with their right hand sweetheart.

Reply
 
 
Jun 30, 2019 14:12:41   #
Abo
 
Canonuser wrote:
My granddaughter in law flies Airbuses for British Airways. These planes are controlled by small joysticks. As First Officer, (right hand seat) it’s controlled with the right hand. As Captain (left hand seat) it’s controlled with the left hand.
It’s a good job for the passengers sake that she’s sufficiently dexterous to be able to fly the plane with either hand competently.


Airbuses are "fly by wire",
she's not flying the plane. The computer is.
You can hit the joystick with a baseball bat
and the computer will make a safe maneuver.
You can "fly" an Airbus with your left foot.

Apart from that:

Get a flight simulator program (for aircraft that are not
"fly by wire") and a joystick.
See which hand automatically goes to the joy stick.

You may be able to fly ok with your non dominant hand.
However, not so when the flight parameters are critical.

For example; A dogfight between a Fockewulf 190
and a MkI Spitfire, you wont be able to get the joystick
into your dominant hand quick enough... whether you've
chosen Zee machine vis zee Bayerische Motoren Werke kraftwerk,
or the Supermarine... Tally Ho! Jolly Hockey Sticks!
Make mine the Spitty thanks. Just so long as that Hun turns
I'll have him on his way to Valhalla.

Same goes for driving a car, suddenly ice or oil on a curve on a country road,
or a kid chases a ball onto the road in front of you. some klutz drives through
a red light etc etc etc. If you can only use one hand to avoid a collision, are you going to use
your non dominant hand to avoid death. If you do, you are suicidal or
homicidal or mentally impaired.

In a right hand drive car your dominant hand is on the wheel more
than in a left hand drive car... even if its an auto, there's
numerous buttons knobs and controls in the center console
to occupy your right hand in an automatic left hand drive car.
Your in real trouble if there's a damsel in the passenger seat
that requires attention.

These are the points that all the RHD nay sayers havnt realized or
have chosen to ignore.

Reply
Jun 30, 2019 14:25:57   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
TriX wrote:
Actually I prefer my dominant hand to change gears, which on many cars, requires more precision and muscular coordination than holding onto a steering wheel. To each his own.

Cheers


I agree, but then the close ratio 4 speed on my 68 RS Camaro 396 probably found it's way to the salvage yard along with the rest of the car years ago. Should never have sold it.

Reply
Jun 30, 2019 14:27:22   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
pendennis wrote:
Ships at sea, unless there are channel considerations, always pass "port-to-port", and running lights are always green/starboard, red/port. Same for aircraft. The pilot's position is always on the left side of the aircraft.



I have always owned boats and know the rules of the road. But I never considered the port/starboard light convention vs. rules of the road. Doing so makes them seem at odds to me. When approaching each other you’d think you want to display the green if you are ptoperly lined up to pass port to port. But the lights are reversed.

Reply
Jun 30, 2019 14:28:24   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Abo wrote:
Race cars are driven from the center not the left or the right.

Touring cars, sports cars, etc are best driven from the left seat at anticlockwise tracks.
and the right seat at clockwise tracks.


SCCA and IMSA licences are only local North American licences.

And the "I" in IMSA that stands for International is a grandiose false hood
because Imsa is only a sanctioning body for competition in North America.

There's been some talent that's come up through SCCA; however there's
bulk with an SCCA licence that could not drive a greasy stick up a pigs arse...
and from the horse feathers you've been talking, I'm getting the feeling you are
one of the latter.


I have an FIA open competition licence.. That is a licence to race internationally issued by
the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile. (as well as a Confederation of Australian Motorsport licence). And have won more competitions than you've had roast pototoes.

I'm the instructor that instructs the instructors who instruct race car drivers.

And apart from that Tri X the thread is about driving on public roads,
where there is the opportunity for right hand traffic and left hand traffic differences.
And in that scenario there is, unlike serious motorsport, oncoming traffic.

Having said that, I've watched the figure 8 car races (only in america... i hope) where there
is a cross road intersection for the drivers to negotiate. As entertaining as that is
I reckon it would be simpler just to have an oval and have half the field go clockwise
and the other half anticlockwise. ;-D
Race cars are driven from the center not the left ... (show quote)


Gee don't hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel.

Reply
 
 
Jun 30, 2019 14:38:50   #
One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I guess you know nothing at all about cars other than the one you drive yourself. Such a sad state of affairs. PLEASE do not travel to other parts of the world where your prissy opinions will be challenged by all things normal.


Give him hell, well said. He seems to be one of the new resident experts on all things that go down the road. Knows all sees all.

Reply
Jun 30, 2019 14:39:47   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Originally there was nothing on the dashboard and no center console stuff. But with todays autos there is a bunch of stuff to manipulate, including touch screen controls, even if the shifter not so much. These are easier to manipulate, particularly with limited attention, with the dominant hand.

When I drove in England for a year in the early eighties it was pretty much just the radio and hvac controls. I had no issues driving there. But upon return for several months had occasional panics thinking I was on the wrong side of the road.

Reply
Jun 30, 2019 14:44:28   #
sailwiz Loc: Santee, CA
 
You must be young. You've left out old stick shifts. A righty using the left hand to shift puts paid to your reasoning.

Reply
Jun 30, 2019 15:06:03   #
Abo
 
sailwiz wrote:
You must be young. You've left out old stick shifts. A righty using the left hand to shift puts paid to your reasoning.


Are you responding to me?

Reply
 
 
Jun 30, 2019 15:14:34   #
Abo
 
One Rude Dawg wrote:
Give him hell, well said. He seems to be one of the new resident experts on all things that go down the road. Knows all sees all.


Calling someone a "know all" is a lame and stupid attempt to make a positive a negative.

ie someone has more knowledge than you, and that undermines your ego,
so you turn that fact into the derogatory: He's a know all etc etc.

If it wasn't politically incorrect, I'd compare you to an arthropod.

Reply
Jun 30, 2019 16:05:09   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
If you are born in Saudi Arabia you are a Muslim, if born in the USA you are a Christian.
If born in England you drive on the left, if born in the USA you drive on the right.
Exactly the same thing.

Reply
Jun 30, 2019 16:10:07   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Abo wrote:
I was reading the topic "When You Pass someone on the road" posted by Tim S.

The Left Hand Drive Versus Right Hand Drive issue soon arose.
Those who drive on the left supported their native situation
and those who drive on the right supported that.

And the reasoning did not go beyond, we drive on this side of the road, so it must be the best
way to do it.

Which contains no logic or reason really. Saying, "I do it this way, makes this way right",
fails as soon as it is countered with, "I do it the other way, makes the other way right".

1+minus1=0

I drive on the left side of the road in a RHD vehicle. I believe it's the better way, not just
because that's the way it is down here, but because of a darn good reason.

And that is; most people are right handed which means when we let go of the steering
to change gears our dominant right hand remains on the steering wheel to steer the car.

If you think that is insignificant try writing with your left hand or using a hammer in your
left hand.

And all you lefties out there, pipe down. You think it would be better for most people
to have less control over their cars than the least amount of people to have less control over their car?

Sorry USA/Continental Europe, but you got it wrong.
I was reading the topic "When You Pass someon... (show quote)


I think you making a mountain out of a mole hill.I have driven RTH drive and LFTH drive vehicles a few of the LFTh drives were right hand shift had no problem nor with the center shift Jag or LFT hand shift.
It all depends on your coordination . I'M betting the OP can't walk and chew gum.

Reply
Jun 30, 2019 16:14:35   #
clickety
 
One Rude Dawg wrote:
Give him hell, well said. He seems to be one of the new resident experts on all things that go down the road. Knows all sees all.


I would like to correct your assessment, actually a resident ‘expert’ thinks they know it all, while spending all their time telling others that they are’the expert’ in order to deny and obfuscate the obvious, which in reality is the exact opposite.

Reply
Page <<first <prev 5 of 10 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk)
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.