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Jun 16, 2019 16:01:56   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
So you finally admit that you want to ban all guns from all U.S citizens, it's about time you came clean on this so all know where you stand, you hate the 2nd Amendment and want it abolished.

I did NOT say that I wanted to ban all guns.

My comment was that there was no longer a need for a Militia.

Go back and read my post a little more carefully.

Hand guns for personal protect with the capacity of 6-8 rounds, or long guns used for hunting food should be allowed.

But repealing or revising an out of date Amendment should be looked at, as repealing an Amendment has been several times in our past history.

Your idol wants to completely ignore the Constitution, and all of the laws of our country to become a dictator.

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Jun 16, 2019 16:13:44   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
I did NOT say that I wanted to ban all guns.

My comment was that there was no longer a need for a Militia.

Go back and read my post a little more carefully.

Hand guns for personal protect with the capacity of 6-8 rounds, or long guns used for hunting food should be allowed.

But repealing or revising an out of date Amendment should be looked at, as repealing an Amendment has been several times in our past history.

Your idol wants to completely ignore the Constitution, and all of the laws of our country to become a dictator.
I did NOT say that I wanted to ban all guns. br ... (show quote)


LOL Liar, Trump does not want to become a dictator and ignore the Constitution, your rabid hatred for Trump doesn't stop you from lying does it? Also, I read your comment below in the capture and it appears you are against the 2nd Amendment and that you want to ban all guns, did I misinterpret your comment? I doubt it.



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Jun 16, 2019 16:20:21   #
Angmo
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
I did NOT say that I wanted to ban all guns.

My comment was that there was no longer a need for a Militia.

Go back and read my post a little more carefully.

Hand guns for personal protect with the capacity of 6-8 rounds, or long guns used for hunting food should be allowed.

But repealing or revising an out of date Amendment should be looked at, as repealing an Amendment has been several times in our past history.

Your idol wants to completely ignore the Constitution, and all of the laws of our country to become a dictator.
I did NOT say that I wanted to ban all guns. br ... (show quote)


Read the second amendment. English comprehension matters.

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Jun 16, 2019 16:23:29   #
EyeSawYou
 
Angmo wrote:
Read the second amendment. English comprehension matters.


What does this tell you about ShutterCommie?



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Jun 16, 2019 17:04:24   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
You really are a HYPOCRYT!

You're so worried about 2nd Amendment rights when there are mass shootings nearly daily in the United States? How many more innocent lives need to be lost before as a country we take action to get guns off of our streets?

There is a difference between weapons used for hunting for food, and those considered to be military style assault weapons, and those with high capacity magazines.

There is no longer a need for a militia in this country, we already have multiple branches of the military, the various branches also have their Reserve Forces, and we have the National Guard. If more able bodies are needed, then we can go back to using the draft system for more people to protect our country.

As far as the 1st ammendment goes, trump is trying to silence ALL media outlets that don't cover his agenda, and he's trying to turn Faux News into a State run network. His claims of fake news started out as a campaign gimmick, but now he actually believes that all news reported by any news outlet except Faux News is fake news. He can't possibly expect that 100% of the news reported about him will spun in a positive light, especially with all of his screw ups! The news outlets are not there to boost trump's ego!

Real news doesn't emanate from trump, it's mostly lies that spew forth from his mouth, or his twitter finger! trump is always lying and screwing up.

Nothing he's done has benefitted the American Voter. Those tax cuts were a smoke screen for the Uber rich to get richer on the backs of those who can least afford to pay higher taxes. The trade wars and tariffs are costing the average taxpayer around $3,000 per year at the current tariff rates with what amounts to taxation without representation in the higher costs of goods sold.

If trump bothered to learn the protocols of the Office of POTUS, he wouldn't be the laughing stock among World Leaders that he's become. The trump family will NEVER be looked upon like the Kennedy's were in their day. You can forget about the trump airlines reverse color scheme for the new Air Force One planes!

trump has been on a never ending reelection campaign for the last 29 months.

He's NOT running the country, Russia and Putin are, along with the Saudi's, and the Qatari's.
You really are a HYPOCRYT! br br You're so worrie... (show quote)


First, hypocrite is spelled as I just did rather than as you just did. It hurts my eyes to even see your way of spelling.

Second, mass shootings are not nearly an every day occurrence in America. That is a Democrat spread myth that just is not true. Bad try though.

Actually as an owner of at one time, hundreds of firearms, not just weapons which would include hammers, screwdrivers, automobiles, baseball bats, hatchets, knives, frying pans, fire, rope and so many more. But back to firearms, you are wrong. Do you think our Founding Fathers and early pioneers that opened America had different types of firearms. Many people owned just one which might have been either a fowling piece or maybe a smoothbore musket. That firearm, not technically a rifle, was used for everything from hunting to self protection to going off to war to fight the British or maybe the French depending on the time period. Todays firearms are basically the very same idea. Men who have gone off to war often end up using a firearm they are most used to using. In the early 1900's that would have been the 1896/1898 Krag rifle used in the Spanish American War. After that it was the 1903 Springfield or 1917 Enfield used in WW1 and WW2. During WW2 the M1 Garand was used as it was a semi auto rifle that was accurate and fired quickly. But don't let the semi auto scare you. Semi auto rifles and shotguns were in use since before 1900 and of course are still in use today. Other weapons were invented, the M1 Carbine and Johnson Automatic Rifle in WW2 and Korea, the M14, the M16, M4 and other rifles for special purposes/special operations. My point is that since the Revolutionary War men in war have used the military rifle of the day in common usage. Men and women in the military today gravitate toward the AR-15 as it is basically a copy of the M16 full auto rifle. It is an accurate rifle and is very well suited to hunting all kinds of game depending on the ammunition used. Numerous different cartridges can be fired using the very same receiver but swapping out the barrel or top assembly.

Now are you telling me that semi auto rifles that have been in use for over 100 years and have never been a problem are now somehow dangerous for citizens to have? Have you checked actual statistics for these firearms which show that they are used in less than 1% of killings in America??? Tell us how that less than 1% is dangerous to Americans. If we confiscate THINGS which are dangerous then maybe the common automobile should be GONE as soon as tomorrow. Automobiles are not only killers accidentally but on purpose as well. Many murders have been committed using automobiles. Common kitchen knives should be also on the list to be GONE as well. I mean, really, why should we keep anything that can be used to commit murder in our households?

No longer a need for a militia (please learn to spell) you say. Hmmmm. Apparently you have no idea of why the 2nd Amendment was created in the first place do you? Just in case the government tries to take our firearms away, as the British did in 1775 at Lexington and Concord, the Founding Fathers made the 2nd Amendment a provision of the U.S. Constitution just in case the government gets too big for its britches again. You might have noticed lately that the Pelosi's and Schumer's have taken a dislike to Hate Speech. You know, where people voice their concerns that the Liberals are not doing what they should be doing. Of course it bothers Liberals because it threatens the existence of Liberals such as Pelosi and Schumer. But what they do not tell us and apparently you to be more specific is that this hate speech is completely allowed by the 1st Amendment to the Constitution. Have you thought of that? This is America my friend where just about any speech is allowed. That is what is meant by Free Speech as granted to us by the U.S. Constitution signed way back in 1789. You may recall a popular saying right around WW2, "I may not like what you say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it." Do you recall that? We all have a right to our say. We all have a right to not like the government or our representatives. We can say what we like provided it does not endanger others such as yelling, FIRE, in a theater, when people may be injured or killed in the rush to escape. We can't threaten the President although numerous politicians and actors on the LEFT have threatened the President. You see, as a Liberal you want to have your rights but are perfectly fine with taking my rights away as they interfere with yours. Liberals also want to limit not only our First Amendment rights but also our 4th Amendment rights as well by creating methods where the police can come to our homes and confiscate firearms without due process. As you know that is against the 4th Amendment of the Constitution. You don't care about that but you really should. It could happen to you.

Please show me where Trump is trying to silence all media outlets. He says that many of them offer fake news. Of course he is perfectly right in saying so. Traditionally the media puts out the news, the happenings of the day. But that ended when Trump started running for office. Rather than put out news of the good things Trump does as well as the bad things Trump does, the media ONLY puts out the negative news of President Trump. In all honesty Trump has done numerous good things for America. But you don't read about them because they are not published or announced over news stations.

Perhaps you have read where there are more jobs available in America now than ever before. How about America's growth of 3.6% where Obama told us that 2% was the new normal? Surely you are aware that more blacks and other minorities are employed now under Trump than at any time in history. You must know then that wages are up, Americans received a tax cut, yes probably you too. Also, along with the tax cut numerous employers offered bonuses to their employees. Consumer confidence is up now. The stock market is up. Yes, all true.

Trump is working on tariffs that will be more fair to Americans than in the past. One agreement is between Mexico, Canada and the United States. All partners have signed it but Pelosi will not allow it to be brought to the floor in the House for a vote. Yes, Nancy Pelosi is holding it up because she hates Trump. That is exactly what Harry Reid used to do when he ran the Senate floor. Republican bills simply were not brought to the floor for a vote. Hard to pass legislation when it can't be voted on.

What's next in the news? Oh yes, America is self sufficient insofar as oil and natural gas are concerned. We have enough of both to sell on the market and still have enough for our own needs. Thank YOU President Trump.

I am so tired of idiots telling me that Putin is running America. There is ample proof that Hillary Clinton had far too many friends in Russia than Trump will ever have. There is evidence of Obama in his off mic moment telling the Russians he can't do it now but will be able to do whatever after the election. None of you brain trusts have ever thought about that. You complain because Trump once had a one on one meeting with Putin. But you never complained about Obama doing the same thing. You might recall your first sentence had to do with hypocrisy. Well my friend you are the picture of hypocrisy.

Dennis

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Jun 16, 2019 17:10:14   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Angmo wrote:
We need to protect ourselves from all the crazy leftie Dems doing the shooting.


As I recall that was a dumb Bidenism. THAT and his comment about firing off a double barrel shotgun in the air if you think an intruder is in the neighborhood. Talk about a stupid thing to say.

Dennis

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Jun 16, 2019 17:12:11   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
I did NOT say that I wanted to ban all guns.

My comment was that there was no longer a need for a Militia.

Go back and read my post a little more carefully.

Hand guns for personal protect with the capacity of 6-8 rounds, or long guns used for hunting food should be allowed.

But repealing or revising an out of date Amendment should be looked at, as repealing an Amendment has been several times in our past history.

Your idol wants to completely ignore the Constitution, and all of the laws of our country to become a dictator.
I did NOT say that I wanted to ban all guns. br ... (show quote)


Please tell us how it is Trump who wants to ignore the Constitution. What has he done against the Constitution? I can tell you that it is Trump who adheres to the Rule of Law and the Liberals in Congress and you too who ignore the law for your own purposes.

Dennis

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Jun 16, 2019 17:29:44   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Angmo wrote:
Read the second amendment. English comprehension matters.

Oh I've read it many times.

My complaint with it is the word Militia.

As a country, we no longer have a need of a Militia.

Those gun rights activists who scream that they have the right to own as many guns as they want, especially the military style assault weapons need to take a chill pill.

That's not what the amendment was written to cover.

The Founding Fathers wanted to ensure that the newly formed United States of America had a way of defending itself.

In our modern times, there is absolutely no need to "arm" a militia. That's what the different branches of our Military are there for.

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Jun 16, 2019 17:43:21   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Who are you to tell us we no longer have a militia. Sure we have the USMC, Army, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard but the militia serves for a totally different purpose. Let's say our other branches are tied up in the Middle East. Then Obama and the Grand Poo Bah Ayatollah of Iran decide, with John Kerry's help of course, to attack America. That is where the militia will come in. With literally millions of deer hunters, target shooters and so on who also own, I have heard 300 million firearms, the fight would be on in good form for Americans.

Yes I know you on the Left have questioned whether or not citizens such as myself and millions of my brothers and sisters could do the job. Who really knows? But I guarantee we would put one hell of a hurt on them in short order. Sure they would get many of us before we realized what was happening. But I have a number of loaded firearms scattered around so I would be pretty well set.

The other reason for the militia is exactly what the Founding Fathers designed into the 2nd Amendment. We had just beaten the pants off the British who decided they were in charge of America. The Founding Fathers thought better of the idea and incorporated the 2nd Amendment into the Constitution just so Americans could stand up to an overbearing government which is what Obama and his Liberal cronies started giving us.

Dennis

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Jun 16, 2019 17:48:26   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Where do all of you democrats get your crystal balls? You all seem to know the future and how things are going to turn out. Never mind the fact you have been wrong for over 2 years.


They must have crystal balls. They get them busted regularly!

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Jun 16, 2019 18:01:37   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Oh I've read it many times.

My complaint with it is the word Militia.

As a country, we no longer have a need of a Militia.

Those gun rights activists who scream that they have the right to own as many guns as they want, especially the military style assault weapons need to take a chill pill.

That's not what the amendment was written to cover.

The Founding Fathers wanted to ensure that the newly formed United States of America had a way of defending itself.

In our modern times, there is absolutely no need to "arm" a militia. That's what the different branches of our Military are there for.
Oh I've read it many times. br br My complaint wi... (show quote)


Tell us what exactly does this quote from you have anything to do with the militia?


“You're so worried about 2nd Amendment rights when there are mass shootings nearly daily in the United States? How many more innocent lives need to be lost before as a country we take action to get guns off of our streets?”

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Jun 16, 2019 18:09:06   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Please tell us how it is Trump who wants to ignore the Constitution. What has he done against the Constitution? I can tell you that it is Trump who adheres to the Rule of Law and the Liberals in Congress and you too who ignore the law for your own purposes.

Dennis

Rule of Law and trump don't belong in the same sentence!

He is ignoring all of the duly issued subpoenas that have been issued by Congress.

He's telling everyone who received a subpoena to ignore them.

He's using the United States Attorney General as his personal lawyer to block all investigations into his Obstruction of Justice as documented in the Mueller Report.

Every action trump has taken to block the release of documents or testimony since the Mueller Report was released will be additional charges of Obstruction of Justice added to the 10 that Mueller identified in his Report.

The trump inaugural still owes at least $7M to the City of Washington, DC. Until that bill is paid, there shouldn't be any trump speech on July 4th.

Payments are are due for the following for campaign rallies: $65K to Spokane, WA; $470K to El Paso, TX: $16,191 to Lebanon, OH; $787,219 combined to the cities of Burlington, VT, Green Bay & Eau Claire, Wisconsin, and Mesa, AZ.

Erue, PA, Billings, MT, and Tucson, AZ are also looking for payment from the trump campaign for security at trump campaign rallies.

As usual, trump is ignoring the invoices that were sent to his campaign for services rendered. Where has all of the money that trump has been raising been going if it's not paying the bills that he owes?

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Jun 16, 2019 18:10:57   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Tell us what exactly does this quote from you have anything to do with the militia?


“You're so worried about 2nd Amendment rights when there are mass shootings nearly daily in the United States? How many more innocent lives need to be lost before as a country we take action to get guns off of our streets?”

If you can't figure it out, maybe you should be surrendering your guns to the nearest law enforcement agency.

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Jun 16, 2019 18:25:44   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
If you can't figure it out, maybe you should be surrendering your guns to the nearest law enforcement agency.


So you are unable to answer the question? I wonder why that is exactly.

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Jun 16, 2019 18:37:28   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Rule of Law and trump don't belong in the same sentence!

He is ignoring all of the duly issued subpoenas that have been issued by Congress.

He's telling everyone who received a subpoena to ignore them.

He's using the United States Attorney General as his personal lawyer to block all investigations into his Obstruction of Justice as documented in the Mueller Report.

Every action trump has taken to block the release of documents or testimony since the Mueller Report was released will be additional charges of Obstruction of Justice added to the 10 that Mueller identified in his Report.

The trump inaugural still owes at least $7M to the City of Washington, DC. Until that bill is paid, there shouldn't be any trump speech on July 4th.

Payments are are due for the following for campaign rallies: $65K to Spokane, WA; $470K to El Paso, TX: $16,191 to Lebanon, OH; $787,219 combined to the cities of Burlington, VT, Green Bay & Eau Claire, Wisconsin, and Mesa, AZ.

Erue, PA, Billings, MT, and Tucson, AZ are also looking for payment from the trump campaign for security at trump campaign rallies.

As usual, trump is ignoring the invoices that were sent to his campaign for services rendered. Where has all of the money that trump has been raising been going if it's not paying the bills that he owes?
Rule of Law and trump don't belong in the same sen... (show quote)




NYT REPORTER: OBAMA WH OFFICIALS IGNORED SUBPOENAS TOO

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/28/nyt-obama-wh-officials-ignored-subpoenas/

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