My first serious attempt at using Portrait Professional 9. After using the PP-9 application, I transferred it over to Photoshop Elements to put in on the white background. So, your opinions please. Too much "correction", or about right? You will not hurt my feelings as I want to hone this skill and was advised you can easily over-correct with Portrait Professional.
Before Portrait Pro / PSE
After Portrait Pro / PSE
Val
Loc: Minnesota
In all honesty, way too much. She went from real to plastic, almost Barbie dollish. I don't mean to sound harsh but it takes practice and skill to master these tools. She is a beautiful girl in both images but the key is to enhance the beauty instead of distort it. Less is better. Use the slider and ease up on the level of softness. When we start learning this, it is easy to go overboard but as time and practice goes on, you will get better and better. I have not used this program but I am sure it is very similar to a program I have called Imagenomic Portraiture. If you don't mind I would like to take a swipe at it.
Val wrote:
In all honesty, way too much. She went from real to plastic, almost Barbie dollish. I don't mean to sound harsh but it takes practice and skill to master these tools. She is a beautiful girl in both images but the key is to enhance the beauty instead of distort it. Less is better. Use the slider and ease up on the level of softness. When we start learning this, it is easy to go overboard but as time and practice goes on, you will get better and better. I have not used this program but I am sure it is very similar to a program I have called Imagenomic Portraiture. If you don't mind I would like to take a swipe at it.
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Thanks - I agree. Actually, as soon as I posted both pics and saw them side by side, I said to myself "Yikes!! that doesn't look good at all!" I think I will go back to the drawing board and take another shot at this. Obviously, I succumbed to the siren song of the slider!
Val
Loc: Minnesota
I want to see your remake!
Val wrote:
I want to see your remake!
Okay, here is remake numero uno (without the Photoshop background). Closer? Still a little much?
Let's see yours Val!
Remake 1
Lmarc
Loc: Ojojona, Honduras
Timarron wrote:
Val wrote:
In all honesty, way too much. She went from real to plastic, almost Barbie dollish. I don't mean to sound harsh but it takes practice and skill to master these tools. She is a beautiful girl in both images but the key is to enhance the beauty instead of distort it. Less is better. Use the slider and ease up on the level of softness. When we start learning this, it is easy to go overboard but as time and practice goes on, you will get better and better. I have not used this program but I am sure it is very similar to a program I have called Imagenomic Portraiture. If you don't mind I would like to take a swipe at it.
In all honesty, way too much. She went from real t... (
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Thanks - I agree. Actually, as soon as I posted both pics and saw them side by side, I said to myself "Yikes!! that doesn't look good at all!" I think I will go back to the drawing board and take another shot at this. Obviously, I succumbed to the siren song of the slider!
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I've used Portrait Pro for some time now, though I'm not by any means a portrait photographer. I've had some good results and some not so good. Val has some exceptional work posted here, and I'm sure she will do a more-than-satisfactory job on this young lady's photo. I took the liberty of giving it a shot, too, using a bare minimum of slider work. With your permission I will post my effort after Val posts hers. I don't want to hijack anyone's thread or "steal their thunder".
Lmarc
Loc: Ojojona, Honduras
Timarron wrote:
Val wrote:
I want to see your remake!
Okay, here is remake numero uno (without the Photoshop background). Closer? Still a little much?
That is very good! Mine is quite similar, but I think you did better! :thumbup:
Val
Loc: Minnesota
yes, much improved. I don't think I did any better. I did open her eye up a bit with the liquify tool. Here's mine:
Oh and thanks for the compliment Lmarc!
Lmarc
Loc: Ojojona, Honduras
Lmarc wrote:
Timarron wrote:
Val wrote:
I want to see your remake!
Okay, here is remake numero uno (without the Photoshop background). Closer? Still a little much?
That is very good! Mine is quite similar, but I think you did better! :thumbup:
Yes, I do believe Val's is better.... :D :thumbup:
Bare minimum Portrait Pro
Val wrote:
yes, much improved. I don't think I did any better. I did open her eye up a bit with the liquify tool. Here's mine:
Oh and thanks for the compliment Lmarc!
Great job Val. You did a great job on her eye. I tried to open it a little too, but not with the liquify approach, with which you gave it a more natural look. I will practice with that.
Thanks for your opinions and guidance on this. You too Lmarc. Lesson learned.
Lmarc
Loc: Ojojona, Honduras
Val wrote:
yes, much improved. I don't think I did any better. I did open her eye up a bit with the liquify tool. Here's mine:
Oh and thanks for the compliment Lmarc!
Val...you did your usual great job!! If you don't mind my asking, how did you use the liquify tool to open the eye. I can see how it could be done in Portrait Pro, though I intentionally didn't, but every time I've use liquify it makes somewhat of a mess. Sometimes a PRETTY mess, but a mess. :?
Val
Loc: Minnesota
Lmarc wrote:
Val wrote:
yes, much improved. I don't think I did any better. I did open her eye up a bit with the liquify tool. Here's mine:
Oh and thanks for the compliment Lmarc!
Val...you did your usual great job!! If you don't mind my asking, how did you use the liquify tool to open the eye. I can see how it could be done in Portrait Pro, though I intentionally didn't, but every time I've use liquify it makes somewhat of a mess. Sometimes a PRETTY mess, but a mess. :?
When you have the image in the liquify program, just enlarge the image so you can see it better, then use the forward warp tool making it about twice the size of the object you want to work on. In this case, the eye. I started just below the eye and took very small movements pulling it down slightly and going along the bottom and then on top of the eye pulling upward. If you get out of wack, just revert and try again. My tool settings on the right were: brush size:68 brush density:50 and brush pressure:100. Go ahead and give that a try!
Lmarc
Loc: Ojojona, Honduras
Val wrote:
Lmarc wrote:
Val wrote:
yes, much improved. I don't think I did any better. I did open her eye up a bit with the liquify tool. Here's mine:
Oh and thanks for the compliment Lmarc!
Val...you did your usual great job!! If you don't mind my asking, how did you use the liquify tool to open the eye. I can see how it could be done in Portrait Pro, though I intentionally didn't, but every time I've use liquify it makes somewhat of a mess. Sometimes a PRETTY mess, but a mess. :?
When you have the image in the liquify program, just enlarge the image so you can see it better, then use the forward warp tool making it about twice the size of the object you want to work on. In this case, the eye. I started just below the eye and took very small movements pulling it down slightly and going along the bottom and then on top of the eye pulling upward. If you get out of wack, just revert and try again. My tool settings on the right were: brush size:68 brush density:50 and brush pressure:100. Go ahead and give that a try!
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Thank you, I certainly will!! Just like Benny Hill, I'm "learning all the time!" :D
Timarron wrote:
My first serious attempt at using Portrait Professional 9. After using the PP-9 application, I transferred it over to Photoshop Elements to put in on the white background. So, your opinions please. Too much "correction", or about right? You will not hurt my feelings as I want to hone this skill and was advised you can easily over-correct with Portrait Professional.
Wow! There's so many good ones! I had to take a stab at it with what I have which is TouchFlow by Kevin Focht and also using some CS5...
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