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Dec 14, 2012 17:09:34   #
krispix Loc: London - UK
 
It was less than 24 hours ago that some US contributor made a wise crack about how sad it was that us Brits were not allowed to have guns.
Does he still feel that way after the horrific events in Connecticut and half a dozen other schools in the US?

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Dec 14, 2012 17:32:56   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Yes.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-83320-1.html

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-83326-1.html

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Dec 14, 2012 18:41:40   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
I couldn't care less what the gun toting morons say, if you are American tonight and still say you have a right to carry a gun you are pathetic.

MY sympathy is with the parents of the children, the police who had to go in and SEE DEAD 5 year olds with gunshot wounds and the teachers and families who will never have a Christmas again.

Don't insult the memories of these people with your pathetic "right to bare arms crap".

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Dec 14, 2012 20:03:17   #
krispix Loc: London - UK
 
JR1 wrote:
I couldn't care less what the gun toting morons say, if you are American tonight and still say you have a right to carry a gun you are pathetic.

MY sympathy is with the parents of the children, the police who had to go in and SEE DEAD 5 year olds with gunshot wounds and the teachers and families who will never have a Christmas again.

Don't insult the memories of these people with your pathetic "right to bare arms crap".


I fear you're farting against thunder. The Constitutional 'Right to bear arms' was brought about by a situation that no longer exists, and hasn't for 200 years or so, but it's a right that Mr & Mrs America will fight to retain until their dying breath, despite the fact it could be responsible for bring that day closer still.
You have to understand how powerful the NRA and the gun lobby is in the States. There are an estimated 300 Million guns in America, for a population of around 200 Million. That's 1½ guns for every living, breathing person in the USA. That's more guns than any army in the World, and you're not going to get rid of them overnight.
So, let's be realistic and let them keep their shotguns, and rifles, and hand-guns (although why they want to defeats me). To make a huge difference all America has to do is outlaw automatic assault weapons. Who but a complete nut-case needs anything like an AK-47 or whatever the US equivalent of that is?

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Dec 14, 2012 20:18:28   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
krispix wrote:
JR1 wrote:
I couldn't care less what the gun toting morons say, if you are American tonight and still say you have a right to carry a gun you are pathetic.

MY sympathy is with the parents of the children, the police who had to go in and SEE DEAD 5 year olds with gunshot wounds and the teachers and families who will never have a Christmas again.

Don't insult the memories of these people with your pathetic "right to bare arms crap".


I fear you're farting against thunder. The Constitutional 'Right to bear arms' was brought about by a situation that no longer exists, and hasn't for 200 years or so, but it's a right that Mr & Mrs America will fight to retain until their dying breath, despite the fact it could be responsible for bring that day closer still.
You have to understand how powerful the NRA and the gun lobby is in the States. There are an estimated 300 Million guns in America, for a population of around 200 Million. That's 1½ guns for every living, breathing person in the USA. That's more guns than any army in the World, and you're not going to get rid of them overnight.
So, let's be realistic and let them keep their shotguns, and rifles, and hand-guns (although why they want to defeats me). To make a huge difference all America has to do is outlaw automatic assault weapons. Who but a complete nut-case needs anything like an AK-47 or whatever the US equivalent of that is?
quote=JR1 I couldn't care less what the gun totin... (show quote)

Again I say if you can assure me that the criminals and nut jobs have turned theirs in you can have mine. You must however start with the BAD GUYS

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Dec 14, 2012 20:27:00   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
JR1 wrote:
I couldn't care less what the gun toting morons say, if you are American tonight and still say you have a right to carry a gun you are pathetic.

MY sympathy is with the parents of the children, the police who had to go in and SEE DEAD 5 year olds with gunshot wounds and the teachers and families who will never have a Christmas again.

Don't insult the memories of these people with your pathetic "right to bare arms crap".



what do you not understand about the Constitution?
Rights are for US to protect US.

This disturbed pshcho was not acting with in the law, he was a psychotic man on a mission of destruction.
Would it make people like youi feel better if he used pipe bombs ? Shrapnel grenades? Toxic gas bombs?
All of which can me made for 20 bucks in the garage with chemicals under your sink?
Guns are not the problem, had no gun ever existed murder would still exist.
Wake up

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Dec 14, 2012 20:37:41   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
JR1 wrote:
I couldn't care less what the gun toting morons say, if you are American tonight and still say you have a right to carry a gun you are pathetic.

MY sympathy is with the parents of the children, the police who had to go in and SEE DEAD 5 year olds with gunshot wounds and the teachers and families who will never have a Christmas again.

Don't insult the memories of these people with your pathetic "right to bare arms crap".



what do you not understand about the Constitution?
Rights are for US to protect US.

This disturbed pshcho was not acting with in the law, he was a psychotic man on a mission of destruction.
Would it make people like youi feel better if he used pipe bombs ? Shrapnel grenades? Toxic gas bombs?
All of which can me made for 20 bucks in the garage with chemicals under your sink?
Guns are not the problem, had no gun ever existed murder would still exist.
Wake up
quote=JR1 I couldn't care less what the gun totin... (show quote)


Timothy McVey and the Federal Building in Oklahoma immediately leaps to mind. Suicide bombers all over the world all causing mass destruction and mass murder and not a gun in sight. Evil people do evil things, this is really not a gun control issue although I knew it would turn into that. It’s sad that so many would take such a tragic event and turn it into a political football.

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Dec 14, 2012 21:26:47   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
JR1 wrote:
I couldn't care less what the gun toting morons say, if you are American tonight and still say you have a right to carry a gun you are pathetic.

MY sympathy is with the parents of the children, the police who had to go in and SEE DEAD 5 year olds with gunshot wounds and the teachers and families who will never have a Christmas again.

Don't insult the memories of these people with your pathetic "right to bare arms crap".


Then I am pathetic. You have no right to tell us our business. What has happen is terrible. It should not have happen but there are sick people in this world who will kill another person by any means. The US is not alone. Other countries have problems with sick, crazy people amongst them hell bent on killing. The real problem is not with guns but people. Look at the real problem.

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Dec 14, 2012 21:28:26   #
silverhawk Loc: Born a West Virginian, Living in Virginia
 
Why Own a Gun?

Exploring the Reasons Why People Choose to Own Guns

http://hunting.about.com/od/guns/a/whyownagun.htm


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57559179/china-school-knife-attack-leaves-23-injured/

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Dec 14, 2012 21:35:20   #
mikeyatc Loc: Reno,NV/Folsom,CA
 
Vietnam, Bosnia, Somalia, China, Germany and many other countries that have had mass killings is the reason I have guns. I'd be a moron not to. Your mileage may vary.

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Dec 14, 2012 22:29:16   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
Some own them for hunting, some protection, some sport, lots of gun sports from pins to 1000 yard tatgets to combat shooting, plain target shooting, silhouette shooting, skeet, trap. Some own guns for subsistance.

Though I npo longer hunt, I still like to shoot skeet and trap, punch holes in paper, reload, and silhouette shoot.

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Dec 15, 2012 04:14:31   #
krispix Loc: London - UK
 
Pepper wrote:
krispix wrote:
JR1 wrote:
I couldn't care less what the gun toting morons say, if you are American tonight and still say you have a right to carry a gun you are pathetic.

MY sympathy is with the parents of the children, the police who had to go in and SEE DEAD 5 year olds with gunshot wounds and the teachers and families who will never have a Christmas again.

Don't insult the memories of these people with your pathetic "right to bare arms crap".


I fear you're farting against thunder. The Constitutional 'Right to bear arms' was brought about by a situation that no longer exists, and hasn't for 200 years or so, but it's a right that Mr & Mrs America will fight to retain until their dying breath, despite the fact it could be responsible for bring that day closer still.
You have to understand how powerful the NRA and the gun lobby is in the States. There are an estimated 300 Million guns in America, for a population of around 200 Million. That's 1½ guns for every living, breathing person in the USA. That's more guns than any army in the World, and you're not going to get rid of them overnight.
So, let's be realistic and let them keep their shotguns, and rifles, and hand-guns (although why they want to defeats me). To make a huge difference all America has to do is outlaw automatic assault weapons. Who but a complete nut-case needs anything like an AK-47 or whatever the US equivalent of that is?
quote=JR1 I couldn't care less what the gun totin... (show quote)

Again I say if you can assure me that the criminals and nut jobs have turned theirs in you can have mine. You must however start with the BAD GUYS
quote=krispix quote=JR1 I couldn't care less wha... (show quote)


Hi Pepper,
I don't think you read my last post properly. I was attempting to explain to my countryman why the current situation in the States exists.
I note your position in this, but you haven't addressed the big question; Why do you NEED a weapon that fires 30 rounds of NATO 7.62mm ball quicker than it takes you to read this sentence? Why do you NEED an assault rifle that, if one shot is fired at 1,760 ft/sec into a crowd will cheerfully go through 6/8 people, probably killing all of them?
If you can explain why it is necessary to allow Joe Public to wander into a Gun Shop, produce his Driving Licence and walk out with one of these, a spare magazine and 100 rounds of ammo, then you'll be going a long way to helping the rest of the world understand why you're right and they're wrong. So far, you're not doing a very good job of it.

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Dec 25, 2012 11:45:43   #
Robert G Loc: Raised in Oh. & Ky. live in Az now
 
JR1 wrote:
I couldn't care less what the gun toting morons say, if you are American tonight and still say you have a right to carry a gun you are pathetic.

MY sympathy is with the parents of the children, the police who had to go in and SEE DEAD 5 year olds with gunshot wounds and the teachers and families who will never have a Christmas again.

Don't insult the memories of these people with your pathetic "right to bare arms crap".


Really JR1 ??
Hows that gun control working for you "civilized brits" ? The UK has the highest violent crime rate in the WORLD. Thanks but I wiil stick with my "Right to Bear Arms"

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Dec 25, 2012 11:58:33   #
cameraniac Loc: Huntingburg, Indiana
 
JR1 wrote:
I couldn't care less what the gun toting morons say, if you are American tonight and still say you have a right to carry a gun you are pathetic.

MY sympathy is with the parents of the children, the police who had to go in and SEE DEAD 5 year olds with gunshot wounds and the teachers and families who will never have a Christmas again.

Don't insult the memories of these people with your pathetic "right to bare arms crap".


After all these years, they are still wanting to run our lives. Pathetic....

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Dec 25, 2012 19:25:48   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
JR1 wrote:
I couldn't care less what the gun toting morons say, if you are American tonight and still say you have a right to carry a gun you are pathetic.

MY sympathy is with the parents of the children, the police who had to go in and SEE DEAD 5 year olds with gunshot wounds and the teachers and families who will never have a Christmas again.

Don't insult the memories of these people with your pathetic "right to bare arms crap".


It seems Jr1 has too much time on his hands. Get a hobby, plant a garden, take up needle point, but quit wasting time, your limited views, and bandwidth on something that really has nothing to do with you. We are American, we live in America, we live by American laws. You don't see us telling you how to run your country. If you are happy with it fine, be happy, but don't tell us how to run ours.

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