Isn't that just wonderful that there are so many Republican governors ? All I care about is that we now have a TOTALLY Democratic state government, from Governor and Legislature down, and are pulling out of the economic problems Bush's policies caused. No, I take that back. I am also eager to see Obama kick ass now that he doesn't have to worry about reelection politics. Where California goes -- upwards into much better things under Brown -- the rest of the nation will soon follow, except of course for some of the really backward states like Alabama and Texas.

What has begun to amaze me is the enormous amount that Obama actually accomplished during his first three years of the presidency. Read all about it in The New New Deal. Most of the telling of this was lost in the lying static Romney and the Republicans did, but these facts are now beginning to become evident.

Get used to Obama, because he is here for another 4 years plus, and now he will really kick ass.

You had better do a little study on what Obama has accomplished. It is all listed for everyone to see in the book The New New Deal. It takes more than 3 1/2 years to clean up the mess W caused -- a good deal of which is set out there -- especially with Republican obstructionists trying to prevent the solving of many of these problems. For example, preventing passage of the jobs bill, which probably would have put a million Americans back to work.

Please recall the stated Republican object: to prevent Obama from having a second term. Well, get used to it, because you Republicans lost the presidential election. Now we will see some real butt kicking !

You are absolutely wrong about this. There has been a block by Republicans in the California legislature for a number of years. Time and time again the Republicans have prevented progressive legislation that the Democrats wanted. May I remind you that some types of legislation require a 2/3 (or is it just 60% ? I forget which.) majority. This is what the Republicans have voted against and prevented from being put into law. Perhaps you are just unfamiliar with California politics. Your assessment of absolute control by the Democrats is simply not true.

Finally Democrats took the place of many Republicans in this recent election, and we can now progress on a Democratic agenda without Republican obstructionism. The day I switch parties will be the day Republicans start caring about the masses as much as they do about the wealthy. In other words, probably never.

The California Legislature, both the Senate and the Assembly, have been in Democratic hands 41 out of the last 42 years since 1970. That isn't opinion, those are the facts.

[Yes, and I have explained that the devil is in the details. For a great many bills regarding the spending or raising of money -- such as increasing or imposing taxes --, a super-majority has been necessary, and the Republicans have prevented this from being achieved for many progressive bills. That isn't opinion, that is fact.]

My opinion is that if those Democrats could not pass their "progressive" legislation due to the minority party in both houses of the legislature for 41 out of 42 years than the California Democratic Party is a farce.

[Fortunately that is just your opinion, and it does not take into account certain facts regarding the need either for a super majority or cooperation from Republicans to pass certain kinds of bills, including the need to tax in order to fund certain things.]

In actuality, California has enacted progressive Democratic legislation for years which has bankrupted the state. [And here we have the real problem with what you understand and don't understand. A lot of money-raising bills have not been passed because of the Republican opposition. This will no longer be the case, now that the Democrats have a super majority. We have now gotten rid of the Republican road block. The people of California have seen how destructive Republicans have been to this state's finances, and they have spoken. Now we can actually raise money. As you Republicans said repeatedly when W stole the election, "Get used to it."

It is ironic that you begin a thread contending that the Republican Party is "falling to pieces" yet somehow, these same Republicans can prevent the Democrats from passing their agenda. Perhaps the only way the Democrats can accomplish anything is via a dictatorship.

[I don't see the irony. In fact, I don't think there is any. In California, which in many ways is the most progressive state in the Union, we now have much more control. Things have changed. The past is not the present. Get used to it.]

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I assume that by "they" you mean the Republicans. No, they don't understand it. Their political party is falling to pieces beneath their very feet, and they still cannot understand why. You know, if you are Black and walk into a room where people don't like Blacks, you can tell this about them, no matter what they say. The same is true of Blacks in the electorate. No matter what the Republicans say, they have tipped their cards for the entire wqorld to see and know.

Isn't that just wonderful that there are so many Republican governors ? All I care about is that we now have a TOTALLY Democratic state government, from Governor and Legislature down, and are pulling out of the economic problems Bush's policies caused. No, I take that back. I am also eager to see Obama kick ass now that he doesn't have to worry about reelection politics. Where California goes -- upwards into much better things under Brown -- the rest of the nation will soon follow, except of course for some of the really backward states like Alabama and Texas.

What has begun to amaze me is the enormous amount that Obama actually accomplished during his first three years of the presidency. Read all about it in The New New Deal. Most of the telling of this was lost in the lying static Romney and the Republicans did, but these facts are now beginning to become evident.

Get used to Obama, because he is here for another 4 years plus, and now he will really kick ass.

From today's New York Times:


"Who would ever have thought blacks would get out and support the first black president? Who would ever have thought women would shy away from the party of transvaginal probes? Who would ever have thought gays would work against a party that treated them as immoral and subhuman? Who would have ever thought young people would desert a party that ignored science and hectored on social issues? Who would ever have thought Latinos would scorn a party that expected them to finish up their chores and self-deport?"