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Absract Art ... Forest Fire
Jan 25, 2024 09:00:53   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
The title is important to Abstract-Art because surrealism is thereby connected to be interpreted with making something real from the image shapes and color. Will the viewers see a forest fire, perhaps, if not tell me what you see.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1575894

The image started as a IR sky photo, it was then treated with Look Up Table, LUT, and conversion. I did not put it in the IR section since it is not the typical blue-red swap rather it is a strong LUT change. The program used is the Weasis medical X-Ray CT Scan freeware developed at the University Hospital of Geneva Switzerland.
https://weasis.org/en/index.html

The treated image i will show has been flipped and rotated to show the converted image section I decided to use for the "Forest Fire." It is included so that you may see how the LUT covered the shades of gray. The LUT was shown in my previous "Walk on Eggshells With LUT"
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-797558-1.html

Comments and suggestions are welcome they are a learning experience for me as they are for others.

FOREST FIRE
FOREST FIRE...
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IMAGE TO SHOW HOW LUT INTERPRETERS SHADE OF GRAY
IMAGE TO SHOW HOW LUT INTERPRETERS SHADE OF GRAY...
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Jan 25, 2024 13:11:08   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
I see an abstract with no discernable image

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Jan 25, 2024 13:31:20   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
I see an abstract with no discernible image


Good honest comment, thank you.
I may be delusional seeing trees and smoke starting to the right of the flames.
Curmudgeon, do you see Mickey Mouse dead center of this small image from the center of the image?

Pareidolia is the tendency for perception to impose a meaningful interpretation on a nebulous stimulus, usually visual, so that one sees an object, pattern, or meaning where there is none. It is a type of apophenia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

Apophenia is the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things. Apophenia was coined by psychiatrist Klaus Conrad in his 1958 publication on the beginning stages of schizophrenia. He defined it as "unmotivated seeing of connections [accompanied by] a specific feeling of abnormal He described it as the early stages of delusional thought.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

Sorry Curmudgeon it appears you are not schizophrenic and are missing many good conversations from the cabinet in the corner or other voice delusions. Strange, many people walk around having conversations with their cell phones ~!!



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Jan 25, 2024 19:47:21   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
dpullum wrote:
The title is important to Abstract-Art because surrealism is thereby connected to be interpreted with making something real from the image shapes and color. Will the viewers see a forest fire, perhaps, if not tell me what you see.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1575894

The image started as a IR sky photo, it was then treated with Look Up Table, LUT, and conversion. I did not put it in the IR section since it is not the typical blue-red swap rather it is a strong LUT change. The program used is the Weasis medical X-Ray CT Scan freeware developed at the University Hospital of Geneva Switzerland.
https://weasis.org/en/index.html

The treated image i will show has been flipped and rotated to show the converted image section I decided to use for the "Forest Fire." It is included so that you may see how the LUT covered the shades of gray. The LUT was shown in my previous "Walk on Eggshells With LUT"
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-797558-1.html

Comments and suggestions are welcome they are a learning experience for me as they are for others.
The title is important to Abstract-Art because sur... (show quote)


It seem several members here are beginning to show a real interest in abstracts. I find it interesting how individuals approach this subject with their own work. I think we all have a bit of a different idea about what it should be, how it should be created. I don't see a fire; but I do like the image because of the colors and the textures.
Erich

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Jan 25, 2024 20:41:57   #
veralisa296 Loc: New Jersey
 
I see the interaction of two complementary colors!!! Love the abstraction and the excitment it causes.

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Jan 25, 2024 20:47:36   #
veralisa296 Loc: New Jersey
 
Speaking of which (re:abstracts) I find this image fascinating! On the whole, there's not much to it...but...I do find the interaction between the two main colors to be exciting. And, yes, there IS an excitment about the abstracts in this catagory!

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Jan 26, 2024 05:16:44   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
veralisa296 wrote:
Speaking of which (re:abstracts) I find this image fascinating! On the whole, there's not much to it...but...I do find the interaction between the two main colors to be exciting. And, yes, there IS an excitment about the abstracts in this catagory!


I suppose it is not really important if someone actually sees representations in an abstract; but it is still fun to look for them.
Erich

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Jan 26, 2024 05:18:34   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
veralisa296 wrote:
I see the interaction of two complementary colors!!! Love the abstraction and the excitment it causes.


Thank you. Whenever I do motion blur or zoom blur, my wife usually comments with: "Doing your swirlies again, I see". This one, however, she did like. Must be doing something right.
Erich

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Jan 26, 2024 05:30:01   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
veralisa296 said in part: "Speaking of which (re:abstracts) I find this image fascinating! On the whole, there's not much to it...but...I do find the interaction between the two main colors to be exciting. "

Yes, color excitement is a correct analysis, and why I try to explain my interest in the LUTs. Thank You.

your abstracts have mainly been geometric, a term that generates thoughts of lines, but it also includes curves and plays on color. The abstract I presented, I confess, is a play on color using the medical program's LUT to react to shades of gray. Gray can be confusing because we are used to the RGB photo colored world. Gray scale is explained here [https://goodcalculators.com/rgb-to-grayscale-conversion-calculator/ ] not to be confused with the movie "50 Shades of Gray." [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Shades_of_Grey]

The Title Forest Fire is there to comfort the viewer. As referenced in the intro paragraph Titles Direct Viewers "seeing"; people like to tie an image to reality, a primitive instinct. Primitive also is to see the tiger hidden in the bushes tho not there. Having grown up in the country spotting a threat walking through the woods was second nature. Entertainment for this young boy was taking things apart to see how a toy was made. Seeing images in the clouds and image puzzles in Puck The Comic Weekly ... Finding comic characters in the image below might be a lesson in seeing. Linda was doubtful then amazed when I pointed out a cat hidden in the foliage of one of her submissions, the second image in "Autumn Leaves."
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-796900-1.html
Puck: http://potrzebie.blogspot.com/2010/09/1881-emoticons.html

So, I agree, that the image is simply a play on the interaction of Red/Blue intensity based on shades of gray using LUT. Seeing a Forest Fire is not necessary.

PUCK IMAGE FIND A CHARACTER PUZZLE
PUCK IMAGE FIND A CHARACTER PUZZLE...

LINDA'S HIDDEN CAT
LINDA'S HIDDEN CAT...

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Jan 26, 2024 05:58:31   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
ebrunner wrote:
Thank you. Whenever I do motion blur or zoom blur, my wife usually comments with: "Doing your swirlies again, I see". This one, however, she did like. Must be doing something right.
Erich


Thank your wife for seeing the fire and liking it... and thank you for passing on the comments.

Generating interest in abstracts is part of the game, in this section just modifying a "Snapshot" is the rule, but perhaps it is stepping beyond that and making a not-real out of a real image. Mor than just kicking the colors and changing the background...

PS: I like your Zoom Blur images and "How To" explanation.

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Jan 26, 2024 07:08:13   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Erich's replies to Veronica suggest that Erich thought he was in his own topic, acknowledging comments

Don, once a title is given - or the question, "Do you see such-and-such?" - there is no way to erase that suggestion from one's mind. I see forest fire, but it's a stretch, and I doubt I would have without your lead.

Regarding appeal of textures, lines and colors, I'm with Veronica: very engaging interaction of colors. I would like it better without the two smaller red areas near the top, however. Crop 1/4 to 1/3 off the top and for me it becomes more dramatic and exciting, with the hot red "flames" intent on destroying the peaceful blue.

Do not interpret that as a political observation

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Jan 26, 2024 07:46:22   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
I do not see a fire, even on the B/W. But I do see a background on your color version. There is a reason why it is called Abstract Art. The more viewers the more interpretation on what they see.

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Jan 26, 2024 12:04:00   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
True Frank, I had to look to decide on a title.. and be in keeping with the philosophy that titles lead the viewer. Not sure what I would name Jackson Pollock's famous painting, except "Today Cleaned Brushes." Perhaps my abstract could be called "Seared Red Complements Blue." And NO, the B&W has little to no character in its self.
Correct Linda, not political, rather, it honors "Smokey The Bear" after he became a pyromaniac and was quietly retired. Interviewed by the Saturday Night Live News, he confessed, "I don't know anything about forest fires, I ate a ranger and kept his hat."
https://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/s/smokey_bear.asp


Below is the crop that was suggested by Veronica and prompted by Linda. In the crop the red is diagonal and the blues are vertical. Both are splotchy textured.

I just noticed that Mickey Mouse becomes more evident, Positioned 2/3 up and just to the right of center. True he is not real, he has a wind-up key on his left side [right of image].

CROPPED AS SUGGESTED
CROPPED AS SUGGESTED...
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HIDDEN MOUSE
HIDDEN MOUSE...
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Jan 26, 2024 14:39:13   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Thank you all for joining in to the visual rollick... I have some reality based reality visuals that I will soon contribute.

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Jan 26, 2024 17:09:05   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
dpullum wrote:
Thank your wife for seeing the fire and liking it... and thank you for passing on the comments.

Generating interest in abstracts is part of the game, in this section just modifying a "Snapshot" is the rule, but perhaps it is stepping beyond that and making a not-real out of a real image. Mor than just kicking the colors and changing the background...

PS: I like your Zoom Blur images and "How To" explanation.


Sorry Don, I was, as is often the case, a bit confused when a made the comment. That does not, however, change my esteem of your photo. I'm getting very interested in anything abstract lately and it is all very interesting and thought provoking to me. Sorry about the confusion.
Erich

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