Horseart wrote:
(and who even cares), but for some reason unknown to me or anyone else, I feel like saying this.
It's sad!
I don't care how puffed up you are about your own excellence as a photographer, (pro or not), it can't be a good thing to downgrade someone else's work with snarky comments. You know who you are. You don't care that we know who you are....
That's all. I truly feel like I have not stepped on any toes that did not deserve it.
To the rest of you, I will keep looking at and enjoying your photos.
(and who even cares), but for some reason unknown ... (
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Totally agree! How about snarky comments about cameras and gear that are not the latest or mirrorless?
Be well! Ed
Bridges wrote:
Snarky remarks are never in good taste but having said that, there is a place for criticism here on the forum. It is called Photo Analysis. If someone wants to submit work there, responders can give accolades or explain why a photo isn't good. That is a separate section from the Photo Gallery. If someone's work is displayed in the Photo Gallery, it is common decency to either admire their work or if the shot doesn't resonate with the viewer, to pass on making a comment at all.
Well said!!
My mama always told me that "an ounce of sugar is always better than a pound of salt" when dealing with others.
Bridges wrote:
Snarky remarks are never in good taste but having said that, there is a place for criticism here on the forum. It is called Photo Analysis. If someone wants to submit work there, responders can give accolades or explain why a photo isn't good. That is a separate section from the Photo Gallery. If someone's work is displayed in the Photo Gallery, it is common decency to either admire their work or if the shot doesn't resonate with the viewer, to pass on making a comment at all.
I agree with the original post inasmuch as intentional negativity is unwarranted; I wonder how much a 2 dimensional medium is able to translate accurately/ adequately the intention of critique. When via phone, the tone relays much, or is misinterpreted. In person, that all the more. When friends communicate, there can be a wide berth on what is called "criticism" that is accepted (even laughed at) when a dig is offered.
Yet criticism is just that. Only with the addition of helping suggestions is it taken with appreciation and can be considered worthwhile.
Of course this is above and beyond the original post's intent and taken to heart.
Question: do we share our photos/ efforts simply to accumulate accolades, or easily offended with critique? Many images are presented with nothing more than the intent to share. Many of the posts are very good images, some just statements of record. Yet again, we are all at where we are. And a latitude of varying experiences and levels of accomplishment ( in the eye of the beholder? ) are in order. Also agreed that if not impressed, move on.
Support in an extremely personal and perspective oriented medium as photography is commendatory; your points of the differences of Open Gallery and the Critique sections are well founded.
kpmac wrote:
I agree, Jo. There are many images I don't especially care for but I never demean the image or the photographer. If they like it enough to post it then why take away their joy in it? This site is not a professional photo site where we are posting images for sale or to win any contests. It should be fun to post here. There.... I'm done.
I 200% agree with you. I believe helpful comments are always appreciated. And thankfully only a few members cannot see the fine line between a helpful, and a demeaning response. Overall, this site has taught me so much just by "trolling". Thank you.
Your point is well-taken, Jo, and appreciate your addressing the point. I find that there is a degree of arrogance here by a few that is unnecessary. UHH isn’t, as one already stated, a site for professional photographers who demand nothing but the highest degree of perfection. It’s here for people to share photos, good, bad or otherwise for others to enjoy. But “snarky” comments aren’t appreciated or helpful. UHH is also here for folks to solicit the advice or answers to questions from others who may be more knowledgeable. The “Google is your friend,” or “RTFB” comments are certainly not welcome or appreciated. Let’s be kind and supportive of one another and just have fun here. We range from rank beginners to highly accomplished professionals, with gear ranging from very basic stuff to the most expensive available and everything in between. Thanks for posting, Jo.
Horseart wrote:
(and who even cares), but for some reason unknown to me or anyone else, I feel like saying this.
It's sad!
I don't care how puffed up you are about your own excellence as a photographer, (pro or not), it can't be a good thing to downgrade someone else's work with snarky comments. You know who you are. You don't care that we know who you are.
Sometimes we admire a person simply because we admire their talent or skill as a great photographer, but when they make snarky remarks to someone who is just enjoying photos they made and so happy that they got them, they are stealing that person's joy.
This happens here too often and makes me wonder what kind of person feels good about doing a thing like that!
We may admire your work as a gifted photographer from now on but some of us will surely cease to admire you as the photographer you are, because of your pathetic attitude toward others.
That's all. I truly feel like I have not stepped on any toes that did not deserve it.
To the rest of you, I will keep looking at and enjoying your photos.
(and who even cares), but for some reason unknown ... (
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You have posted what I have thought several times. Fortunately, you have expressed it in a much kinder manner than I ever would have. I would add, to those on the receiving end of the "snarky cpments", do not allow those comments to dissuade you from continuing with photography. If photography gives you happiness and enjoyment, Keep on keeping on. I believe thos detractors are simply unhappy people who wish to make others unhappy. They have no control over your emotions or feelings.
SalvageDiver wrote:
Well said!!
My mama always told me that "an ounce of sugar is always better than a pound of salt" when dealing with others.
My mom would say, “Keep your words sweet because you never know when you may have to eat them.” Very true!
Horseart wrote:
Yes some are trolls and that happens everywhere, but when some of the regulars here do that, it's just sad Mike. Thanks for looking and commenting. I expected to be snarked right out of the gate.
You won't get that from me, Jo...
Sadly, there are too many people in the world that make me more glad I'm me.
Sometimes it takes stepping on toes to get people's attention.
Other people require a 2x4.
I would spend some time ROTFLMAO but it hurts getting back up and for what it's worth, you are not wrong.
Horseart wrote:
(and who even cares), but for some reason unknown to me or anyone else, I feel like saying this.
It's sad!
I don't care how puffed up you are about your own excellence as a photographer, (pro or not), it can't be a good thing to downgrade someone else's work with snarky comments. You know who you are. You don't care that we know who you are.
Sometimes we admire a person simply because we admire their talent or skill as a great photographer, but when they make snarky remarks to someone who is just enjoying photos they made and so happy that they got them, they are stealing that person's joy.
This happens here too often and makes me wonder what kind of person feels good about doing a thing like that!
We may admire your work as a gifted photographer from now on but some of us will surely cease to admire you as the photographer you are, because of your pathetic attitude toward others.
That's all. I truly feel like I have not stepped on any toes that did not deserve it.
To the rest of you, I will keep looking at and enjoying your photos.
(and who even cares), but for some reason unknown ... (
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Re: "This happens here too often and makes me wonder what kind of person feels good about doing a thing like that!"
My theory is that they were not shown Love as a child or they were bullied and became deeply emotionally scared.
Maybe this is not a valid assessment for some and maybe the "Dunning–Kruger" effect may also come into play . . .
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunning%E2%80%93kruger+effect&oq=Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiABDIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDgwMjZqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends
PS: I am very thankful for the kind and talented folks here at UHH who freely share their hard-earned knowledge with others.
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