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Sep 22, 2023 15:44:39   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
OK I don’t see the confusion here. Cameras have aperture control, shutter speed, control, and some control over the ISO. Most of them have a suite of auto exposure modes. They might name them slightly differently, so what? They all do pretty much the same things.

So if you have camera A and it has a timed exposure mode, and then you buy camera B, you can be pretty sure it’s gonna have that same function, even if they name it differently.

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Sep 22, 2023 16:03:31   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
JD750 wrote:
OK I don’t see the confusion here. Cameras have aperture control, shutter speed, control, and some control over the ISO. Most of them have a suite of auto exposure modes. They might name them slightly differently, so what? They all do pretty much the same things.

So if you have camera A and it has a timed exposure mode, and then you buy camera B, you can be pretty sure it’s gonna have that same function, even if they name it differently.



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Sep 22, 2023 16:33:16   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JD750 wrote:
OK I don’t see the confusion here. Cameras have aperture control, shutter speed, control, and some control over the ISO. Most of them have a suite of auto exposure modes. They might name them slightly differently, so what? They all do pretty much the same things.

So if you have camera A and it has a timed exposure mode, and then you buy camera B, you can be pretty sure it’s gonna have that same function, even if they name it differently.

No confusion, just discussion of different nomenclatures for the same function(s).

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Sep 22, 2023 22:59:56   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
ALT+159 on a numeric keypad is ƒ.

SOL if one does not have a numeric keypad????



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Sep 22, 2023 23:05:00   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
burkphoto wrote:
It is actually "ƒ/2.8", not "F2.8" or "f/2.8". The symbol, 'ƒ' is Option + f on Mac keyboards. I have no idea what it is on Windows, probably Alt + [some arcane number].

'ƒ' (in photography and related optical fields) is a symbol meaning FOCAL LENGTH. The expression, 'ƒ/2.8', is read in English as "focal length divided by 2.8," as expressed in the same dimension as the lens (usually mm). So it is the CALCULATED diameter of the aperture in the diaphragm of the lens... i.e.; on a 100mm lens, the aperture ƒ/8 is 100/8, or 12.5mm. As it turns out, the same aperture number on different lengths of lenses represents the opening size that lets in "the same" amount of light.

In practice, there are variables such as manufacturing tolerances and the transmission of light through all those various glass elements, So ƒ/2.8 on one lens might be ƒ/3.2 on another, or ƒ/2.5 on yet another. In the motion picture and video (film) industry, we call those ACTUAL values, 't/stops'. A 't/stop' is the actual number on the lens that represents a truly standard amount of light transmission.

On multiple-camera movie set assignments, using matched lenses with calibrated 't/stop' scales is important, so that the color and brightness of each camera's output is matched to the others. That makes intercutting clips from several cameras much more seamless, and reduces or eliminates the need for separate color grading of each clip. It was/is a lot harder to get a match with film than with video. These days, downloading lookup tables into cameras can match them, and using a ColorChecker Passport at each camera can balance several cameras' color and exposure quite closely.
It is actually "ƒ/2.8", not "F2.8&q... (show quote)


I know that, but that is why all the complaining by many people, too much hassle. And many applications do not support special symbols. Imagine photographers working with diopter.

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Sep 22, 2023 23:10:39   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
burkphoto wrote:
It is actually "ƒ/2.8", not "F2.8" or "f/2.8". The symbol, 'ƒ' is Option + f on Mac keyboards. I have no idea what it is on Windows, probably Alt + [some arcane number].

'ƒ' (in photography and related optical fields) is a symbol meaning FOCAL LENGTH. The expression, 'ƒ/2.8', is read in English as "focal length divided by 2.8," as expressed in the same dimension as the lens (usually mm). So it is the CALCULATED diameter of the aperture in the diaphragm of the lens... i.e.; on a 100mm lens, the aperture ƒ/8 is 100/8, or 12.5mm. As it turns out, the same aperture number on different lengths of lenses represents the opening size that lets in "the same" amount of light.

In practice, there are variables such as manufacturing tolerances and the transmission of light through all those various glass elements, So ƒ/2.8 on one lens might be ƒ/3.2 on another, or ƒ/2.5 on yet another. In the motion picture and video (film) industry, we call those ACTUAL values, 't/stops'. A 't/stop' is the actual number on the lens that represents a truly standard amount of light transmission.

On multiple-camera movie set assignments, using matched lenses with calibrated 't/stop' scales is important, so that the color and brightness of each camera's output is matched to the others. That makes intercutting clips from several cameras much more seamless, and reduces or eliminates the need for separate color grading of each clip. It was/is a lot harder to get a match with film than with video. These days, downloading lookup tables into cameras can match them, and using a ColorChecker Passport at each camera can balance several cameras' color and exposure quite closely.
It is actually "ƒ/2.8", not "F2.8&q... (show quote)


Let's see if I can make that symbol on my smart phone... ...no, but I have €£¥₩¿~. I'll have to stay with f/ on my phone. And darn, my phone does not have pi, e, or i for mathematics. Word and Excel do.

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Sep 23, 2023 07:56:09   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
The light NEVER comes on when pressing the " B " on my mode dial.... Book says it is the bulb mode. Am I doing something wrong ?

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Sep 23, 2023 08:00:20   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
MrBob wrote:
The light NEVER comes on when pressing the " B " on my mode dial.... Book says it is the bulb mode. Am I doing something wrong ?



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Sep 23, 2023 08:00:48   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Let's see if I can make that symbol on my smart phone... ...no, but I have €£¥₩¿~. I'll have to stay with f/ on my phone. And darn, my phone does not have pi, e, or i for mathematics. Word and Excel do.


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Sep 23, 2023 08:30:55   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Let's see if I can make that symbol on my smart phone... ...no, but I have €£¥₩¿~. I'll have to stay with f/ on my phone. And darn, my phone does not have pi, e, or i for mathematics. Word and Excel do.


Does it use PEMDAS. ?

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Sep 23, 2023 09:52:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JD750 wrote:
OK I don’t see the confusion here. Cameras have aperture control, shutter speed, control, and some control over the ISO. Most of them have a suite of auto exposure modes. They might name them slightly differently, so what? They all do pretty much the same things.

So if you have camera A and it has a timed exposure mode, and then you buy camera B, you can be pretty sure it’s gonna have that same function, even if they name it differently.


!!!!

If space aliens visited with their cameras, I'll bet they would have similar controls. But the labeling would be indecipherable to us.

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Sep 23, 2023 09:53:30   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
burkphoto wrote:
!!!!

If space aliens visited with their cameras, I'll bet they would have similar controls. But the labeling would be indecipherable to us.


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Sep 23, 2023 11:37:13   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
!!!!

If space aliens visited with their cameras, I'll bet they would have similar controls. But the labeling would be indecipherable to us.
Exactly but I bet we could figure them out without too much work.

Unless they had a red button that disintegrated the subject, then that would be bad.

Come to think of it that could be useful.

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Sep 23, 2023 12:06:18   #
bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX
 
BebuLamar wrote:
We know what someone means if he/she writes "aperature" or "lense" or "Tamuron" or saying if someone if an "amature". As long as we understand each others that's all that counts.

Yup...the human mind is amazing to be able to understand any gibberish!

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Sep 23, 2023 15:56:52   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
williejoha wrote:
I think we need to start a research team that does in depth research on this subject and reports back to the rest. It’s a slow day today, so it sounds like a good idea. Ha
WJH



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