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May 27, 2023 20:59:17   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
petrochemist wrote:
Can't argue with that! Now where do I go to upgrade those all important bit's behind the camera??
That's the hard part. Lots of practice, study, and years of experience and it's a journey not a destination?

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May 27, 2023 21:11:24   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
The Photo Academy:
https://thephotoacademy.com/en/magazine/how-do-different-lenses-affect-the-photo-quality#:~:text=You%20can%20look%20at%20the,megapixels%20in%20today's%20digital%20cameras.

(quote): What affects photo quality more - lens or camera body?
Your lens completely affects the quality of your camera images. It is the device that creates the image. You can look at the camera body for things like potential resolution, potential color depth, and image noise, but a camera, at best, can only record a very close image created by the lens. Lens quality is more important than ever because of the ever-increasing number of megapixels in today's digital cameras. Often the resolution of digital photos is limited by the camera lens rather than the resolution of the camera itself.

Everyone is probably familiar with the concept of image resolution, but unfortunately, it is often given too much attention. Resolution only describes the amount of detail a lens can capture, but not necessarily the quality of the captured detail. Other factors therefore often contribute much more to our perception of the quality and sharpness of a digital image. Therefore, for two lenses with the same resolution, the apparent image quality will be determined primarily by how well each retains contrast, with these lines becoming increasingly narrow. However, in order to make a fair comparison between lenses, we need to find a way to quantify this loss of image quality. A camera lens has a greater influence on picture quality than the number of megapixels, for example, because it directly affects background blur, sharpness, level of detail, and depth of field - to name just a few of the more important parameters.

Using a better lens than the standard one supplied with most cameras almost always results in a significant improvement in quality. A large part of the technical quality of an image is determined by the lens, the only exception being the sensor and the way the camera processes the images. The number of megapixels in a camera is determined by the resolution of the camera's sensor, which is part of the camera body. The quality of digital photos depends on four main factors: The quality of the recording device (camera lens and sensor, and scanner sensor), the size (in pixels) of the digital image, and the digital format in which it is stored (lossless or lossy compression).

The lenses and sharpness of your camera are also important factors in understanding sharpness in photography. If the lens you choose is not sharp enough, the final image may not be as sharp as it could be, and you may not get the most out of your camera's megapixels. Image resolution determines the size at which you can get high-quality prints. As a rule of thumb, you should aim for 300 pixels per linear inch. For on-screen photos, you need very few pixels. Resolution affects the size of your digital photos, but not image quality. Photography is all about painting with light. Lenses are the tools you use to bend light, and an image can only contain as much detail and light as the lens allows. Generally speaking, the best lens always produces the best images, regardless of the number of megapixels." (end quote)

Cheers and best to you.
The Photo Academy: br https://thephotoacademy.com/... (show quote)
Very well said. And an excellent breakdown of the 4 elements.

Another simple minded way I like to think about it is, the light passes thru the lens first, before it hits the recording medium (film, digital sensor).

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May 27, 2023 21:15:23   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
User ID wrote:
Thaz cuz you live in SoCal.

Toyota reclaimed my 97 Tacoma during the Great Rusted Out Frames buy back.

They paid me 10,000 2008 dollars for a dented 4x4 Extracab 4cylinder 5 speed with 170,000 miles on it.

And thaz why SLRs are poo de wazoo !
Oh yes it's a blessing to live in a state where they don't pour chassis eating salt on the roads in the winter. That's a pretty good price. I paid 10,000 for a new 1998 Toyota.

SLRs are poo de wazoo because of salt on the roads?

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May 27, 2023 21:17:44   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
Wow! That was a gift. Of course, they deserved to do that after making trucks that rusted out.
Pray tell what vehicle does not rust out in states where they dump corrosive salt on the roads during the winter months? Maybe those with plastic bodies. And there is a thought, I wonder what will happen to EV's if that salt slurry eats its way into the battery compartment?

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May 27, 2023 21:19:27   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
User ID wrote:
Anyplace other than UHH.

Ok, that's fair now please repeat after me.
On UHH you get:
(1) Expert advice
(2) Strong conflicting opinions
(3) Completely wrong answers

And it's up to the reader to sort them all out.

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May 27, 2023 21:23:24   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JD750 wrote:
Ok, that's fair now please repeat after me.
On UHH you get:
(1) Expert advice
(2) Strong conflicting opinions
(3) Completely wrong answers

And it's up to the reader to sort them all out.


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May 27, 2023 21:29:51   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Don't let the noise of other people's opinions stop you from buying the best (mirrorless) camera.

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May 27, 2023 21:59:45   #
User ID
 
JD750 wrote:

SLRs are poo de wazoo because of salt on the roads?

Well OK, thaz only just one of countless reasons. And acoarst, I just tacked that on there to be on-topic ;-)

I do have a half dozen SLRs just sitting around idle. On a really quiet night you can actually hear them depreciating.

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May 27, 2023 22:02:55   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
User ID wrote:
Well OK, thaz only just one of countless reasons. And acoarst, I just tacked that on there to be on-topic ;-)
Yah and salt slurry is damn hard on SLRs too.

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May 27, 2023 22:08:19   #
User ID
 
JD750 wrote:
Yah and salt slurry is damn hard on SLRs too.

Mine was an SR5, 2nd cuzzen to an SLR.

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May 27, 2023 22:56:29   #
Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA
 
b top gun wrote:
My question is....."Why should I pour all that money into mirrorless when I can shoot in live view with any of my three Nikon DSLRs? Just this last week I had my D780 with and purposely took images using live view. At the same time have been doing some video testing with it as well.


My 2 reasons would be size and weight especially if you travel a lot. Also some of the smaller mirrorless bodies will accept most of the larger lenses made primarily for the SLR's.

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May 27, 2023 23:54:20   #
gwilliams6
 
JD750 wrote:
Very well said. And an excellent breakdown of the 4 elements.

Another simple minded way I like to think about it is, the light passes thru the lens first, before it hits the recording medium (film, digital sensor).



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May 28, 2023 02:09:24   #
Bfree2 Loc: Grants Pass, Or
 
b top gun wrote:
My question is....."Why should I pour all that money into mirrorless when I can shoot in live view with any of my three Nikon DSLRs? Just this last week I had my D780 with and purposely took images using live view. At the same time have been doing some video testing with it as well.


I moved to Mirrorless after finding my truck broken into and gear stolen. Had that not happen I’d still be shooting in the dark ages with my old D780 & gear I loved my Nikon.

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May 28, 2023 10:15:56   #
Urnst Loc: Brownsville, Texas
 
Longshadow wrote:
For most, especially the viewer, the end result is what matters.
For others, it's the journey to the end result that matters.



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May 28, 2023 10:17:41   #
Urnst Loc: Brownsville, Texas
 
User ID wrote:
SMARTER ... than the average hawg.



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