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May 25, 2023 11:12:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rehess wrote:
Let’s try this again.
If tower signal is low, phone communication struggles. Text will repeat until message gets thru or limit has been reached.

None of this relates to the fact that Nikon would have to spend money to learn new technology and gain customers in unfamiliar ‘territory’.

Yea, lets try again, your phone does not use less transmit power for non-voice. Which was my original response to
gvarner wrote:
They started out as telephones but soon morphed into devices with multiple functions. Those other functions are often more popular than the telephone feature, especially texting because it requires less signal strength than a voice call while avoiding more personal contact than a voice call requires.

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May 25, 2023 11:22:22   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Quote:
Yea, lets try again, your phone does not use less transmit power for non-voice. Which was my original response to

The original message doesn’t specify what type of signal strength is involved.

While we have this interchange, we are completely ignoring the original topic, namely Nikon’s complete lack of experience with this kind of thing.

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May 25, 2023 11:37:55   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rehess wrote:
Let’s try this again.
If tower signal is low, phone communication struggles. Text will repeat until message gets thru or limit has been reached.

None of this relates to the fact that Nikon would have to spend money to learn new technology and gain customers in unfamiliar ‘territory’.


Nikon would likely team up with some Chinese firm already doing phones and rebrand them as they are now doing with lenses.
It would be silly to try to start from scratch.

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May 25, 2023 11:39:37   #
Canisdirus
 
Is that the question...why doesn't Nikon get into making cellphones?

Money for one thing...they cannot possibly start up something like that without slipping in their camera dept.
That's a MAJOR investment of time and resources.
And to what end? Try and wrestle it away from Sony? Good luck with that. Sony pretty much owns the cellphone world now.
No...Nikon is not even contemplating that form of financial suicide.

As for texts...in low signal areas...it's better.
Texts have their own set aside channels...and are easier to connect to then voice to voice.
The power...is irrelevant.

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May 25, 2023 11:44:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rehess wrote:
The original message doesn’t specify what type of signal strength is involved.

While we have this interchange, we are completely ignoring the original topic, namely Nikon’s complete lack of experience with this kind of thing.

It's called side tracked...
Not ignoring, just discussing one thing at a time.

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May 25, 2023 11:47:33   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
bbrown5154 wrote:
Apple has enough issues with their current product line...looking at you iMac...to worry about a phone.


Only issues we have with our iMacs are not enough of them...

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May 25, 2023 11:54:09   #
Old Coot
 
Just Fred wrote:
I think that ship has sailed. While I prefer to refer to them as "communicating cameras," the fact remains that these are telephones, that just happen to have cameras built into them, as well as myriad other features. Nikon, et al, would have to compete with Apple and Samsung on every front, not just on camera technology.


I agree that the ship has sailed but I believe that they computers with the added benefit of being able to be used as a phone

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May 25, 2023 12:50:43   #
keywest305 Loc: Baltimore Md.
 
I have the Samsung S22 Ultra with 5 cameras and 128mp. It is ok for small snaps but quality is non comparable to my Z9. They both have their jobs but when needed it's nice to bring out the gun.

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May 25, 2023 13:00:39   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
We DO remember Microsoft's telephone attempt?
Kodak's Camera adapter for the Motorola Phones?
Kodak's 420 Digital back for the Nikon?
Again, a partnership might be the most efficient path for a sophisticated Smartphone/camera product.
Sat phone & GPS features @ the price point this would go for?

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May 25, 2023 13:01:48   #
raypep
 
Petty Petty Petty

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May 25, 2023 13:31:17   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
bbrown5154 wrote:
Apple has enough issues with their current product line...looking at you iMac...to worry about a phone.


I’m pretty sure Apple has a pretty good idea of how to make a phone. One with a pretty good camera. The question was about Nikon making a phone. That’s a no, although I would expect some of the computational photography aspects of cellphone cameras will become more prevalent in standalone cameras.

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May 25, 2023 13:35:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I’m pretty sure Apple has a pretty good idea of how to make a phone. One with a pretty good camera. The question was about Nikon making a phone. That’s a no, although I would expect some of the computational photography aspects of cellphone cameras will become more prevalent in standalone cameras.

Yea, they won't want people switching to cells, or newbies, not getting a standalone camera.

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May 25, 2023 13:36:41   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Abo wrote:
Am I correct in thinking your 600 f4 lens cost about $8,000 second hand?

Anyhoo Bill, I shot the below with one of these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/224805933538?

The darn bandit was filching the "cones" off my pencil pine.
The ones the correllas drop on the carport roof block its spouting.


I used a Finepix Superzoom as my kayak camera before upgrading to the Sony RX10MIV. While it may get you the same or more reach than the 600 full frame lens it’s not the same quality. Your shot suffers from noise and lack of sharpness.

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May 25, 2023 13:41:08   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
fetzler wrote:
It is Ok that you don't like photography very much.

Cellphones are rather poor cameras, telephones and computers but they are portable. Many years ago lots of folks were happy with their Instamatic cameras, too. My cell phone is off 90% of the time it is no pleasure to use. Even a rather small simple camera is more satisfying to use.


While iPhone can’t compete with my Nikons or Olympus it is certainly not a poor camera. It’s at least as good as any P&S camera and much better than many.

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May 25, 2023 13:42:26   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rehess wrote:
I was happy with an Instamatic back when I was in college; I was very unhappy when its shutter broke. The photos I take with this iPhone are satisfying; they would be as satisfying to me as those I take with a “real camera” if the lens zoomed. The results are typically what give me pleasure.

Back to the point of this thread, Nikon does what satisfies people; it is unlikely they could master all the aspects that would be necessary to make a tolerable cell phone.


Well that explains why you’re happy with Pentax.

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