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May 26, 2023 12:12:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
fetzler wrote:
Let's not be silly.

1. My cheap Cheap Samsung phone has a microSD card slot.

2. Realize the your phone DOES NOT have 200MP. The laws of physics prevent a small sensor from having this number of pixels. Also how good can a lens be that is stuffed into a pocket.

3. Anyone can have more fake MPs by purchasing Topaz Gigapixel AI. I do not criticize this fine program that has legitimate uses.


My Samsungs and Motorola all have card slots. I use an old, unconnected Samsung for email, pictures, etc.

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May 26, 2023 13:23:09   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
Just Fred wrote:
I think that ship has sailed. While I prefer to refer to them as "communicating cameras," the fact remains that these are telephones, that just happen to have cameras built into them, as well as myriad other features. Nikon, et al, would have to compete with Apple and Samsung on every front, not just on camera technology.


At the beginning we had telephones with limited camera capabilities. However, I think that the technology has advanced to the point that people are now using computer and photographic devices with a phone built in. My guess is that the average person spends less time using their iPhone for telephone conversations than they do for texting, e-mail, taking photographs, etc. I predict that with the rapid advancement of AI soon we won't have to be personally involved in most telephone conversations.

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May 26, 2023 13:38:23   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
opps, my mistake

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May 26, 2023 13:45:30   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Abo wrote:
LOL. The lack of sharpness in the photo taken with the 600mm Nikkor was as soft as it gets
and some of that birds whites are burnt out as well... and it's as flat as a biscuit LOL.

And bud I, sure as heck don't need you
to tell me that the old Fujifilm bridgie struggles with noise in low light LOL.
Also a real focal length of about 200mm (as is the S6500fd aka S6000fd) is far from being a superzoom... as you would have it... being far shorter
than 600mm... LOL you are so full of it.

You bud, have an agenda. If you didnt, you would have sited the weaknesses of both images not just mine.

The reason I rarely visit this site anymore is because of the examples of the Dunning Kruger syndrome like you.

Do not respond to my posts again bud, and I will not respond to yours.
Now buzz off, and leave me alone.

Goodbye Fly.
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Bill,

I'm sorry about the harsh words regarding your image.
My critisism was compelled by Flies ignorance.

I know you have taken much better photos than your example in this thread...
as have I... taken much better photos than my example (of the Corrella) in this thread.
LOL. The lack of sharpness in the photo taken with... (show quote)


I wasn’t comparing your images. Just stating the fact that there are limitations to the capabilities of those cameras. The Nikon 600mm is certainly capable of much sharper images than the Finepix. I don’t know the particulars of your model but the one I had was capable of 1200mm equivalent. The friend I gave it to loves it and it’s very capable for social media posting that she does. It doesn’t compare IQ wise with the 1” sensor Sony RX10MIV I replaced it with and my Sony doesn’t compare IQ wise with either my Olympus or Nikons. Your photo is fine for what it is, just not one I would choose to tout it’s capabilities compared to the Nikon with the 600 f/4.

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May 26, 2023 16:38:53   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Well, then, I certainly don't want to look silly(er)! Remember the comedian who got guffaws whenever he held his shoe-phone to his ear?


Maxwell Smart

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May 26, 2023 19:18:35   #
nblue
 
ABJanes wrote:
Did you ever notice how even a bad true camera photo viewed on a iPhone or equivalent looks pretty decent? Smaller images are very forgiving.


I agree, great point.

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May 26, 2023 22:13:38   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Well, then, I certainly don't want to look silly(er)! Remember the comedian who got guffaws whenever he held his shoe-phone to his ear?


How about talking into his watch?.so futuristic back then. Now they count your steps 🤣🤣

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May 27, 2023 00:38:43   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
raypep wrote:
Given how good the Iphone camera has become are any of the major companies like Nikon or Sony thinking of producing their own model ?
It would probably be better and it might get back customers, like me, who put their DSLRs in the drawer.


Fairly humorous discussion so far. Cell phones these days are built around fairly standard "building block" components. Pretty much anyone that wanted to could build one without much trouble.

The problem is that the barrier to entry into the market is pretty high. Anyone who wanted to get into the market would have to go from zero to several hundred million devices right away. And the market is very mature already...carriers pay only very little per unit for devices. So while I have no doubt that Nikon (or Canon, or...) could easily establish the capability to enter the market, the real question is, "Why in the world would they want to do it?" They are already making much better money than they would be likely to ever make as latecomers to a commodity marketplace.

The other big clue is that if it were really a good opportunity, Sony would most likely already be in it.

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May 27, 2023 06:24:26   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
Maxwell Smart


Right! The cell phone makers missed a good thing there. Imagine if we could have phones in our shoes!

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May 27, 2023 07:28:20   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
larryepage wrote:
Fairly humorous discussion so far. Cell phones these days are built around fairly standard "building block" components. Pretty much anyone that wanted to could build one without much trouble.

The problem is that the barrier to entry into the market is pretty high. Anyone who wanted to get into the market would have to go from zero to several hundred million devices right away. And the market is very mature already...carriers pay only very little per unit for devices. So while I have no doubt that Nikon (or Canon, or...) could easily establish the capability to enter the market, the real question is, "Why in the world would they want to do it?" They are already making much better money than they would be likely to ever make as latecomers to a commodity marketplace.

The other big clue is that if it were really a good opportunity, Sony would most likely already be in it.
Fairly humorous discussion so far. Cell phones the... (show quote)



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May 27, 2023 09:51:57   #
Abo
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I wasn’t comparing your images. Just stating the fact that there are limitations to the capabilities of those cameras. The Nikon 600mm is certainly capable of much sharper images than the Finepix. I don’t know the particulars of your model but the one I had was capable of 1200mm equivalent. The friend I gave it to loves it and it’s very capable for social media posting that she does. It doesn’t compare IQ wise with the 1” sensor Sony RX10MIV I replaced it with and my Sony doesn’t compare IQ wise with either my Olympus or Nikons. Your photo is fine for what it is, just not one I would choose to tout it’s capabilities compared to the Nikon with the 600 f/4.
I wasn’t comparing your images. Just stating the f... (show quote)


LOL

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May 27, 2023 10:35:40   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Right! The cell phone makers missed a good thing there. Imagine if we could have phones in our shoes!


The earliest cell phones came in two flavors..."bag phones" and "shoe phones" back in the last century.

Bag phones were just that...a phone in a (usually black) bag containing a box of electronic circuitry, a handset on a coiled cord, and a power cable to plug into the lighter socket. There was also an antenna, which could usually be removed so that connection could be made to an external antenna installed outside the vehicle.

Shoe phones were made of beige plastic. They were 9 or 10 inches long, plus another few inches for an antenna. For extra money, you could buy an adaptor that mounted in place of the battery and allowed connection to vehicle power. They could also be optionally connected to an external amtenna mounted on the vehicle.

I never had a bag phone, but I did have a shoe phone for work. It worked pretty well as long as I wasn't too far from civilization. My plan came with 60 minutes per month. Extra minutes were about $.50. The phone had a timer to keep up with usage. It was important.

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May 28, 2023 00:49:20   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Abo wrote:
LOL


I’m not quite sure which part of that you found humorous. We not enlighten us.

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May 28, 2023 01:30:47   #
Bfree2 Loc: Grants Pass, Or
 
The iPhone is awesome, I have the 14 Pro Max. BUT …IMOP It doesn’t compare with the Sony Xperia PRO 512GB my friend just picked up a couple months back. My phone was expensive enough that one is over $2400. $600 more than my iPhone.
But it is Soooo cool. ( I’ll get one next year maybe)

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