Nikon Z8...perhaps May 10th announcement (Page 3): Most of what I’ve heard is a 61mp sensor.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

gwilliams6 wrote:

I understand your perspective here. As far as most buyers might look at this, coming in under $4000 IMHO is the key if this Z8 is to have great sales. $3599 is better, but $3899 might still garner a lot of interest if the specs hold up and real-world test results are excellent. Having that same 45mp stacked-sensor as the Z9 is a big plus.

I agree with you, many will be out of interest if it costs more than $4000 USD.

Cheers and best to you.

Most of what I’ve heard is a 61mp sensor.

flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT

SuperflyTNT wrote:

Most of what I’ve heard is a 61mp sensor.

That was the rumor for a while based on the assumption that the Z8 would be a direct competitor to the Sony a7RV which has a 61mp sensor.

Most have now backed off of that prediction and are now saying it will have the same 45.7mp sensor as the Z9 as well as the Exspeed7 image processor that is in the Z9 although the Z9 has two of them.

One of the more ridiculous predictions on the Z8 facebook pages is that there will be two Z8s...the standard Z8 having a 24mp sensor and a Z8x having the 61mp sensor. The 24mp sensor makes no sense to me.

Another silly prediction is that there will be a Zsq with a 36mm square sensor with 100mp.

Be patient, the 10th is less than two weeks from now...then everyone will know for sure.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

gwilliams6 wrote:

IMHO, it would doom the Z8 in the marketplace if the price was near $5000 like you and some believe. If the price was $5000, Nikon might as well not bother releasing it at all IMHO. I personally believe Nikon will continue the business practice of underpricing its top Z cameras to spur on sales, as it tries to compete with the fullframe mirrorless sales leaders Sony and Canon.

Cheers

I do not disagree.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

flip1948 wrote:

That was the rumor for a while based on the assump... (show quote)

That's why it's better not to salivate too much over what "might" be in a new camera. I could make a case that even though the Z9 is a great camera, it is also something of a strategic problem. It really doesn't leave a big enough window for a Z8 to fit at a really attractive price. Probably the reason it took so long to get to where we are, and why it is possible that neither of the cameras to be introduced is the Z8. What if it is a more capable Z9ii instead? I don’t think that's the case, but it could be.

I personally think that a large percentage of Z9 buyers were folks who really wanted a Z8. It is going to be very interesting to see what they do with their Z9s when and if a Z8 actually becomes available. There could be a ton of used Z9s suddenly available. Or not.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

larryepage wrote:

That's why it's better not to salivate too much ov... (show quote)

The Z8 will need to catch up at a minimum with the competition in the AF department.
Other bells and whistles are nice but the Z9 isn't there yet and if the Z8 can overcome that hurdle it sounds like it will give the Z9 a run for the money.

neillaubenthal

billnikon wrote:

And Nikon has announced that the price of the Z8 will be $3599.00? Please give us the Nikon website that has stated this. Thank you in advance.

I have no idea what it will cost…but the Z9 was announced at a cheaper price than its competitors…and they can’t price another body at nearly the price of the Z9, and while it might be called a Zi for marketing purposes a Z7III is probably just as good a name from a technical standpoint, and we know what the specs indicate will be it’s competitors are…so pricing it to beat them seems like a good idea. And it’s going to be somewhat downfeatured from the Z9 because the Z9 is the flagship and if whatever they call it is cheaper than a Z9 it has to be less capable or else it kills the Z9 market as fewer users want a grip than want gripless or optional grip.

neillaubenthal

larryepage wrote:

I personally think that a large percentage of Z9 buyers were folks who really wanted a Z8.

I’m with you…don’t want a grip and if something with the other Z9 features had been available I would have it instead…and frankly would have been satisfied with something less than 20/30/120 FPS…the latter two aren’t interesting to me and 12-15 in high would be fine as I rarely shoot at more than 10 for culling and PP reasons.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

Architect1776 wrote:

... it sounds like it will give the Z9 a run for the money.

And therein lies the big potential problem. Ideally a manufacturer doesn't want one product to cannibalize the market for another of its products. That's why I say that there may be a strategy problem with these two models. It's why there very well may be a critical need for a Z9ii pretty quickly.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

flip1948 wrote:

That was the rumor for a while based on the assump... (show quote)

Interesting. It makes no sense to release a new 45mp model that sits between the Z7II and the Z9. That would just be a Z7III. What most people I know want to see is what is being called the “Z90”, a 30+mp APS-C with Z9 like specs. The replacement for the D500. That and tge 200-600 lens.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

neillaubenthal wrote:

I’m with you…don’t want a grip and if something with the other Z9 features had been available I would have it instead…and frankly would have been satisfied with something less than 20/30/120 FPS…the latter two aren’t interesting to me and 12-15 in high would be fine as I rarely shoot at more than 10 for culling and PP reasons.

Then the Nikon Z6II or Z7II are for you. No need for a Z8. And best of all the Z6ii is currently on sale for $300.00 off and the Z7II is on sale for $400.00 off. And the Z7II shoots at 10 fps. What could be better.
And you won't have to wait for years for either of these great models.
There you go, no need to wait for you.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

SuperflyTNT wrote:

Interesting. It makes no sense to release a new 45mp model that sits between the Z7II and the Z9. That would just be a Z7III. What most people I know want to see is what is being called the “Z90”, a 30+mp APS-C with Z9 like specs. The replacement for the D500. That and tge 200-600 lens.

Nope. (And to Billnikon as well.) I want a camera that has the same operating system and interface as the Z9/D850/D500. Technical specs similar to the Z7ii or slightly evolved would be fine. But without the pro interface, its no deal for me. DOA. And I have absolutely no need for an APSC Z camera. I'd rather Nikon not dilute their development efforts. APSC should be the next DSLR...gone with the wind. Its usefulness in camera evolution is much appreciated, but its mission is long ago complete.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

larryepage wrote:

And therein lies the big potential problem. Ideally a manufacturer doesn't want one product to cannibalize the market for another of its products. That's why I say that there may be a strategy problem with these two models. It's why there very well may be a critical need for a Z9ii pretty quickly.

Perhaps so.
That could be the second camera being rumored.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

larryepage wrote:

And therein lies the big potential problem. Ideally a manufacturer doesn't want one product to cannibalize the market for another of its products. That's why I say that there may be a strategy problem with these two models. It's why there very well may be a critical need for a Z9ii pretty quickly.

If Nikon brings out a Z9ii the current owners of the Z9 will have legitimate concerns.
Many pro's and advance amateur's are expressing the need for Firmware updates vs. a replacement model.
And that makes sense since folks who have bought the Z9 have a lot of money invested. Pro's are saying that they would be willing to pay a couple hundred dollar's for this service.
Owners of top of the line Canon and Sony models are also pressuring their manufactures to offer Firmware updates to update their flagship models rather than having to buy a newer model.
More on this down the road as this is a current HOT button issue among many pro's.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

larryepage wrote:

Nope. I want a camera that has the same operating system and interface as the Z9/D850/D500. Technical specs similar to the Z7ii or slightly evolved would be fine. But without the pro interface, its no deal for me. DOA. And I have absolutely no need for an APSC Z camera. I'd rather Nikon not dilute their development efforts. APSC should be the next DSLR...gone with the wind. Its usefulness in camera evolution is much appreciated, but its mission is complete.

There are a huge number who prefer the APSC format.
I have looked at FF and for me the APSC is preferable to FF.
FF is not meant for superiority, look at m4/3 does well also.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Architect1776 wrote:

There are a huge number who prefer the APSC format.
I have looked at FF and for me the APSC is preferable to FF.
FF is not meant for superiority, look at m4/3 does well also.

It will be interesting to see what Nikon finally brings out. Right now all of my FF models have APSC mode at the push of a button.