When will Canon stop supporting your camera? Here spotted by Canon Rumors. Any thoughts from you Canon users ?
Apr 12, 2023 21:55:38 #
I am a professional photograher, not a photographic retailer, distributor, or marketing expert in any of the aforementioned sectors of the business. I do not pretend to l know what all the strategies are in the supply chain of photographic equipment. I can only comment based on my own observations.
In the professional world, back in the good old or bad old days, depeng how you remember them, you purchased a camera or system, and you used it for years. If it broke down, the warranty or independent repair service would fix it. There always seemed to b the availability of parts. Small independent repair shops stocked parts, made parts order for the manufacturer, and scrapped old cameras and lenses for parts. Manufacturers and distributer backed up their products. If you lived long enough you could give your old cameras to your grandchildren and they still worked. Pros used their cameras for decades. At one time a beaten-up old Speed Graphic or a "brassed" Nikon F with all the black paint rubbed off were the "badges" of the experienced pro. Nowadays this is all nostalgia- forgotten- and as they used to say in Brooklyn "forgetaboutit"! Gone, Dead, Kaput! Toit Passed Away- Crossed the Rainbow Bridge!
As I see it, today's camera and lens manufacturers, distributors, and retailers have elevated built-in obsolesce to an art form. You pay a fortune for all these computer-driven electronic monstrosities, and you are kinda married to the brand "forever" unless you "divorce" it, depending on their firmware updates or lack thereof, they don't sell parts to independent shops, and they discontinue parts production in shorter and shorter lengths of time.
I suspect that even during the warranty period or if you have to pay for authorized out-of-warranty repairs, there are no repair technicians that can troubleshoot a modular circuit for individual component malfunctions -they are PARTS CHANGERS. So, when they (the manufacturers) stop producing those modular circuit boards- you are out of luck!
Besides, technology is improving and advancing at such a rapid and steady pace, the younger guys and gals don't want to use "old stuff"!
And, to boot, since your perfecty good older DSLR can never be repaired, you won't get very much for it should you want to sell it off.
As a professional, this doesn't bother me- I have to accept the market for waht it is. I use my gear, in some cases, until it disintegrates, or it no longer meets my requirements as per my clients' needs. I devalue it, incrementally, on my "books", and write it off at the end of the line.
Flash gear?- DOUBLE "forgetaboutit! The major distributors of mostof the domestically-made (U.S) pro flash gear, tell you in advance, NOT to send in discontinued units in for repair.
In the professional world, back in the good old or bad old days, depeng how you remember them, you purchased a camera or system, and you used it for years. If it broke down, the warranty or independent repair service would fix it. There always seemed to b the availability of parts. Small independent repair shops stocked parts, made parts order for the manufacturer, and scrapped old cameras and lenses for parts. Manufacturers and distributer backed up their products. If you lived long enough you could give your old cameras to your grandchildren and they still worked. Pros used their cameras for decades. At one time a beaten-up old Speed Graphic or a "brassed" Nikon F with all the black paint rubbed off were the "badges" of the experienced pro. Nowadays this is all nostalgia- forgotten- and as they used to say in Brooklyn "forgetaboutit"! Gone, Dead, Kaput! Toit Passed Away- Crossed the Rainbow Bridge!
As I see it, today's camera and lens manufacturers, distributors, and retailers have elevated built-in obsolesce to an art form. You pay a fortune for all these computer-driven electronic monstrosities, and you are kinda married to the brand "forever" unless you "divorce" it, depending on their firmware updates or lack thereof, they don't sell parts to independent shops, and they discontinue parts production in shorter and shorter lengths of time.
I suspect that even during the warranty period or if you have to pay for authorized out-of-warranty repairs, there are no repair technicians that can troubleshoot a modular circuit for individual component malfunctions -they are PARTS CHANGERS. So, when they (the manufacturers) stop producing those modular circuit boards- you are out of luck!
Besides, technology is improving and advancing at such a rapid and steady pace, the younger guys and gals don't want to use "old stuff"!
And, to boot, since your perfecty good older DSLR can never be repaired, you won't get very much for it should you want to sell it off.
As a professional, this doesn't bother me- I have to accept the market for waht it is. I use my gear, in some cases, until it disintegrates, or it no longer meets my requirements as per my clients' needs. I devalue it, incrementally, on my "books", and write it off at the end of the line.
Flash gear?- DOUBLE "forgetaboutit! The major distributors of mostof the domestically-made (U.S) pro flash gear, tell you in advance, NOT to send in discontinued units in for repair.
Apr 12, 2023 22:02:40 #
Apr 12, 2023 22:43:54 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If it ain't broke, don't replace it.
(I don't!
)Apr 12, 2023 23:06:51 #
robertjerl wrote:
They stop support when they run out of parts made during the production run. But some independent repair shops may have the part needed on a junker they are stripping for parts.
Just like a part for an old car may be available if say the same engine was used for many model years, otherwise it is call salvage yards until you find someone with that car/engine and part you need.
Just like a part for an old car may be available if say the same engine was used for many model years, otherwise it is call salvage yards until you find someone with that car/engine and part you need.
I agree, some independent repair shops may still have a needed part ,past Canon's end of support. I hope that is the case for Canon users holding on to their gear, and for Canon users whose gear is ALREADY no longer supported. Good point about having a junker body in reserve for parts, not a bad idea.
Cheers and best to you.
Apr 12, 2023 23:10:19 #
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I am a professional photograher, not a photographi... (show quote)
IMHO, many of your points are spot-on here E.L., thanks for sharing your perspectives.
Cheers and best to you
Apr 12, 2023 23:14:59 #
Apr 12, 2023 23:26:56 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
This isn't about me, I no longer own any Canon cam... (show quote)
I meant I no longer have any of my numerous Canon Digital cameras. I still have one Canon F-1 SLR totally mechanical camera. Two of those Canon F1 cameras (one loaded with B&W Tri-X 400 ASA film, and the other loaded with Color Transparency Fujichrome 100 ASA film) were rock solid performers for me when I covered the War in Nicaragua between the Contras and Sandinistas.
One F1 I have been able to keep in working order with my local repair shop, as they are so much less complex than digital cameras, even works without that tiny meter battery, the only battery in the camera. I use it when I teach my B&W 35mm film photography class at my university.
I will search the world to keep this Canon F1 working, it has a very special place in my heart among all the great cameras I have owned and used from Miranda, Pentax, Konica, Leica, Nikon, Olympus, Yashica, Mamiya, Hasselblad, Bronica, Canon, Fuji, Panasonic, Sony ,and a few view cameras up to a 11X14 inch Dierdorf..
Cheers and best to you all
Apr 12, 2023 23:29:09 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Canon has always had time-limits for support of various models and product tiers. One would think someone with the vast and oft-noted experience in the photography industry would be well-aware of this policy. I don't understand such a novice-level post and shock.
Reeeeeeeally ? OK. Then I must claim that I dont understand YOUR claiming that you dont understand the OP.
But acoarst in reality I DO understand that you DO recognize "professorial" pedantic click bait trollism when when you see it (over and over ad nausium).
Apr 13, 2023 03:16:52 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Canon has always had time-limits for support of various models and product tiers. One would think someone with the vast and oft-noted experience in the photography industry would be well-aware of this policy. I don't understand such a novice-level post and shock.
Canon bashing.
Apr 13, 2023 03:19:53 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
I agree, some independent repair shops may still have a needed part ,past Canon's end of support. I hope that is the case for Canon users holding on to their gear, and for Canon users whose gear is ALREADY no longer supported. Good point about having a junker body in reserve for parts, not a bad idea.
Cheers and best to you.
Cheers and best to you.
Same for Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Olympus and Heaven forbid Leica among others.
Apr 13, 2023 07:39:58 #
Apr 13, 2023 07:56:45 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
I agree, some independent repair shops may still have a needed part ,past Canon's end of support. I hope that is the case for Canon users holding on to their gear, and for Canon users whose gear is ALREADY no longer supported. Good point about having a junker body in reserve for parts, not a bad idea.
Cheers and best to you.
Cheers and best to you.
If it's that old, I'd simply replace it when it broke.
How many other items should one have "spares" for parts?
What might be the odds that what part is needed is also "broke" in the junker.
Apr 13, 2023 09:55:58 #
Longshadow wrote:
If it's that old, I'd simply replace it when it broke.
How many other items should one have "spares" for parts?
What might be the odds that what part is needed is also "broke" in the junker.
How many other items should one have "spares" for parts?
What might be the odds that what part is needed is also "broke" in the junker.
I concur and from almost a lifetime of experience, I can testify that when something breaks I can Never find that squirreled away "Spare Part" until I buy a "Replacement Part" and lose the receipt so that I can't return it.
I always do a Very Brutal cost/benefit assessment when something breaks or even becomes outdated.
In my world, something has to have a deep sentimental value to me before I allow it to become a tripping hazard.
I know that this is all just "Bench Racing" and "Click Bait" for the Canon vs. Nikon vs. blah, blah, blah crowd, but boy do I feel better grin.
Because Everyone Knows That Chevy Rules,
Huge Grin,
JimmyT Sends
Apr 13, 2023 11:01:10 #
Longshadow wrote:
If it's that old, I'd simply replace it when it broke.
How many other items should one have "spares" for parts?
What might be the odds that what part is needed is also "broke" in the junker.
How many other items should one have "spares" for parts?
What might be the odds that what part is needed is also "broke" in the junker.
Certainly possible that that spare part is also broken, but I do keep around some spares of older stuff for my classic sports car.
Cheers
Apr 13, 2023 11:21:41 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
Certainly possible that that spare part is also broken, but I do keep around some spares of older stuff for my classic sports car.
Cheers
Cheers
A tad different with a classic car though.
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