Nikon DSLR
Mar 26, 2023 11:59:08 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
CHG_CANON wrote:
Well, except for the AF-capable models that need a focus motor in the camera body ...
Some of those are pretty desirable too. They are smaller and lighter than their replacements. Folks that use the pop-up flash especially like them once they learn the secret, because they are less likely to make a shadow in the bottom of the frame.
Mar 26, 2023 12:16:58 #
larryepage wrote:
Some of those are pretty desirable too. They are smaller and lighter than their replacements. Folks that use the pop-up flash especially like them once they learn the secret, because they are less likely to make a shadow in the bottom of the frame.
Larry you are just on the wrong side here. If YOU, or anyone else, wants something small and light, that was designed for and functions properly with a Z series camera, please try the new Nikkor 26mm f2.8. I love mine!
Mar 26, 2023 12:26:18 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
cjc2 wrote:
Larry you are just on the wrong side here. If YOU, or anyone else, wants something small and light, that was designed for and functions properly with a Z series camera, please try the new Nikkor 26mm f2.8. I love mine!
I was specifically talking about lenses to use on DSLRs. Should have been more clear. Don't enen know of any Z cameras with pop-up flashes. I've also found by experience that AF-D lenses can be more reliable than low-end AF-S lenses, which are prone to focus motor or ribbon cable failures.
Mar 26, 2023 12:36:21 #
larryepage wrote:
I was specifically talking about lenses to use on DSLRs. Should have been more clear. Don't enen know of any Z cameras with pop-up flashes. I've also found by experience that AF-D lenses can be more reliable than low-end AF-S lenses, which are prone to focus motor or ribbon cable failures.
That I can agree with. When I was shooting with DSLRs, I actually preferred some of the older D lenses to the newer designs. A good example was my 50/1.4D versus the newer 50/1.4G, which I think was junk. I re-bought the D version along with a Sigma ART 50/1.4 which I felt was spectacular. I now own both a 50/1.8Z and the 50/1.2Z and like them both! Happy shooting!
Mar 26, 2023 13:10:16 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Well, except for the AF-capable models that need a focus motor in the camera body ...
Right and a HUGE oversight by Nikon making dozens of useful lenses all but useless on the Z-camera. That was after promising the ability to use older lenses with no loss in function. I call loss of Autofocus a significant loss of function.
Mar 26, 2023 13:13:46 #
JD750 wrote:
Right and a HUGE oversight by Nikon making dozens of useful lenses all but useless on the Z-camera. That was after promising the ability to use older lenses with no loss in function. I call loss of Autofocus a significant loss of function.
If it's an oversight that was done more than 30 years ago. It's very close to impossible to make an adapter that allow AF on those lenses.
Mar 26, 2023 13:14:41 #
larryepage wrote:
That shadow is due to the lens protruding into the light thrown by the flash, and that shadow is bigger if the light source is closer to the camera. Some of those are pretty desirable too. They are smaller and lighter than their replacements. Folks that use the pop-up flash especially like them once they learn the secret, because they are less likely to make a shadow in the bottom of the frame.
But I also miss the pop-up flash on the "modern" cameras, as when used properly, it's definitely useful. Perfect ? No but better than no flash.
Mar 26, 2023 13:16:48 #
BebuLamar wrote:
If it's an oversight that was done more than 30 years ago. It's very close to impossible to make an adapter that allow AF on those lenses.
If that is the case, they should have been forthright in their marketing of the FTZ.
Mar 26, 2023 13:20:58 #
JD750 wrote:
If that is the case, they should have been forthright in their marketing of the FTZ.
To support those lenses the adapter has to have 2 motors. One to AF and another to operate the aperture. Nikon chose to support the aperture function as if not even more lenses won't work. I think they run out of room for the AF motor. If they chose to include the aperture function and AF built in to the lens like Canon then they don't have the problem but they decided against that to retain the F mount back in the late 80's.
Mar 26, 2023 13:27:15 #
BebuLamar wrote:
To support those lenses the adapter has to have 2 motors. One to AF and another to operate the aperture. Nikon chose to support the aperture function as if not even more lenses won't work. I think they run out of room for the AF motor. If they chose to include the aperture function and AF built in to the lens like Canon then they don't have the problem but they decided against that to retain the F mount back in the late 80's.
Thanks for the explanation.
Mar 26, 2023 13:29:27 #
JD750 wrote:
Right and a HUGE oversight by Nikon making dozens of useful lenses all but useless on the Z-camera. That was after promising the ability to use older lenses with no loss in function. I call loss of Autofocus a significant loss of function.
You are WAY OFF BASE here! AF lenses, with no on-board motors have ONLY worked with bodies with built-in motors for decades now. That was neither new to the Z cameras or the FTZ adapter. That was also NEVER promised by Nikon. Technology marches forward my friend. Perhaps, in the future, someone could make some sort of ftz adapter that would have a built-in focus motor, but it would most likely be expensive, heavy and not a big seller. Do you want some cheese with your wine?
Mar 26, 2023 14:03:38 #
Mar 26, 2023 14:08:21 #
cjc2 wrote:
You are WAY OFF BASE here! AF lenses, with no on-board motors have ONLY worked with bodies with built-in motors for decades now. That was neither new to the Z cameras or the FTZ adapter. That was also NEVER promised by Nikon. Technology marches forward my friend. Perhaps, in the future, someone could make some sort of ftz adapter that would have a built-in focus motor, but it would most likely be expensive, heavy and not a big seller. Do you want some cheese with your wine?
Not sure what you point is. With the other cameras they were upfront about the focusing. It was easy to avoid the DSLRs without the focus motor.
"One of the cornerstones of the new Z series mirrorless system is already in your camera bag: your F-Mount NIKKOR lenses. Add the optional Mount Adapter FTZ and experience the best of both worlds—the glass you know and love and the latest in imaging technology."
Where is the "*" saying it will only work with lenses with built in focusing motors?
Yep I definitely like cheese and also bread with my wine. Who doesn't?
Mar 26, 2023 15:05:46 #
JD750 wrote:
Not sure what you point is. With the other camera... (show quote)
I don't think Nikon is so upfront about the D3xxx and D5xxx that don't AF with lenses without the built in motor either. If you read carefully then you would find out both with the D3xxx, D5xxx and the FTZ won't AF with screw driver lenses but you do have to read carefully.
it's on the foot note but these
"*Full AF/AE supported when using FX or DX AF-S Type G/D/E, AF-P type G/E, AF-I type D lenses and AF-S/AF-I Teleconverters."
Means the lens has to be AF-S, AF-P or AF-I lens to have full support.
Mar 26, 2023 15:24:57 #
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